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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16063 Posts
October 15 2015 19:30 GMT
#41
DRG in WCS would be unfair. In his PL form he wouldn't drop a single map.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 15 2015 19:34 GMT
#42
ffs
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
October 15 2015 19:45 GMT
#43
Hope the rules for WCS changes so that we can get better competition internationally. But why leave DRG? We all saw what training in Korea can do for you.
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
October 15 2015 20:14 GMT
#44
On October 16 2015 00:54 Clonester wrote:
He can only play WCS if he gets a working / sports Visa... so mostlikely he needs a American team (or a Europeen team that invest a good bunch of money into him).
I dont understand his decision at all.


This. Unless he's already got a foreign team lined up (OP translation suggests against it), I don't see how this isn't a disaster.
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DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
October 15 2015 20:42 GMT
#45
Nazgul, plz ;_;

Though I know DRG and CatZ are pretty good buddies, ROOT.DRG would be pretty sweet as well.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 15 2015 20:42 GMT
#46
disappointed he wants to leave Korea but I guess if he manages to pull it off it's probably a better monetary decision for him
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Steelo_Rivers
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1968 Posts
October 15 2015 20:44 GMT
#47
On October 16 2015 01:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I hope WCS gets a full region lock next year, i am one of the biggest korean fanboys here on TL, but this simply destroys ANY chance for the foreign scene, which is probably bad for sc2.

or foreign players can just get good and quit complaining about people being better than them. Korean players and created the same way everyone else in the world is. I don't understand why people even make this a thing. iirc, Korean players rarely ever played with foreign players in BW and now all people can do is complain about how their lack of skill shows when they're up against their Korean brethren.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 15 2015 20:57 GMT
#48
On October 16 2015 05:44 Steelo_Rivers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 01:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I hope WCS gets a full region lock next year, i am one of the biggest korean fanboys here on TL, but this simply destroys ANY chance for the foreign scene, which is probably bad for sc2.

or foreign players can just get good and quit complaining about people being better than them. Korean players and created the same way everyone else in the world is. I don't understand why people even make this a thing. iirc, Korean players rarely ever played with foreign players in BW and now all people can do is complain about how their lack of skill shows when they're up against their Korean brethren.

And for that to be the case foreigners need the stability of the scene to actually go fulltime sc2.
That doesn't work when most money is won by better players (here koreans).
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
UberNuB
Profile Joined December 2010
United States365 Posts
October 15 2015 21:00 GMT
#49
On October 16 2015 05:44 Steelo_Rivers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 01:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I hope WCS gets a full region lock next year, i am one of the biggest korean fanboys here on TL, but this simply destroys ANY chance for the foreign scene, which is probably bad for sc2.

or foreign players can just get good and quit complaining about people being better than them. Korean players and created the same way everyone else in the world is. I don't understand why people even make this a thing. iirc, Korean players rarely ever played with foreign players in BW and now all people can do is complain about how their lack of skill shows when they're up against their Korean brethren.


It's less the foreign players complaining and more the foreign audience. It's just less interesting (to me, and many others) watching Koreans who have little to no personality play each other.

While there are obviously some who only want to see the absolutely top level play, I would rather see familiar faces play and better story lines. There was more hype around IdrA vs Jinro (even though the series ended up being terrible .. T__T) than Hydra vs ForGG will ever have.
the absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
October 15 2015 21:08 GMT
#50
DRG is as far from "faceless korean" as you could ever get, so I don't think anyone should complain about him taking foreigner's slots. He is one of the few people where such a move even makes sense, because if someone has a chance to be picked up by a foreign team out of the blue, it's DRG.

Still, he should have stayed on SBENU, it was such an awesome dreamteam.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 15 2015 21:16 GMT
#51
On October 16 2015 06:08 opisska wrote:
DRG is as far from "faceless korean" as you could ever get, so I don't think anyone should complain about him taking foreigner's slots. He is one of the few people where such a move even makes sense, because if someone has a chance to be picked up by a foreign team out of the blue, it's DRG.

Still, he should have stayed on SBENU, it was such an awesome dreamteam.

Well i complain about it There has to be SOME motivation for foreigners to get into sc2 full time, if it isn't wcs then there is nothing to play for (reasonably, foreigners won't get magically better and competetive)
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
October 15 2015 21:30 GMT
#52
He better find a team fast, I need to see him beat Polt in WCS finals...there is no way you can deny that would be a GOAT series they always are :D
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
October 15 2015 21:41 GMT
#53
On October 16 2015 06:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 06:08 opisska wrote:
DRG is as far from "faceless korean" as you could ever get, so I don't think anyone should complain about him taking foreigner's slots. He is one of the few people where such a move even makes sense, because if someone has a chance to be picked up by a foreign team out of the blue, it's DRG.

Still, he should have stayed on SBENU, it was such an awesome dreamteam.

Well i complain about it There has to be SOME motivation for foreigners to get into sc2 full time, if it isn't wcs then there is nothing to play for (reasonably, foreigners won't get magically better and competetive)


IBut you must note that there already are Koreans playin in WCS Welfare and that DRG is at least more interesting for the foreigner audience than many of them.

I wonder if DRG knows how the WCS is gonna be next year, or if he is just winging it. Because if he had left such a great team and then he learned next year it is citizens only, he would be really screwed ...
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
October 15 2015 21:47 GMT
#54
I am fine with inferior hydras joining WCS
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 15 2015 21:55 GMT
#55
I never was a big DRG fan so i really don't know if i can agree here. But yeah sure, if WCS gets region locked that would suck for him personally.
When i think about it, the best thing for foreigners would be something like the LCS/proleague. Matches every single week, the tournament organizer actually trying to build superstars, etc
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 15 2015 22:06 GMT
#56
I'm so salty holy shit.

Finally starting to regain his old form and he decides to leave the team. urgh.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 15 2015 22:08 GMT
#57
On October 16 2015 01:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I hope WCS gets a full region lock next year, i am one of the biggest korean fanboys here on TL, but this simply destroys ANY chance for the foreign scene, which is probably bad for sc2.

So, basically, sacrifice ForGG, JaeDong, Polt and Hydra? (and maybe others I missed, do not follow WCS for foreigners) and lower even more the foreigner skill. Cool, I am OK with that, at least they will re-broadcast Korean leagues when EU/NA will become pathetic.
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
October 15 2015 22:12 GMT
#58
DRG in WCS would wreck everyone so easily it wouldn't be fair

I hope it happens
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 15 2015 22:35 GMT
#59
On October 16 2015 07:08 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 01:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I hope WCS gets a full region lock next year, i am one of the biggest korean fanboys here on TL, but this simply destroys ANY chance for the foreign scene, which is probably bad for sc2.

So, basically, sacrifice ForGG, JaeDong, Polt and Hydra? (and maybe others I missed, do not follow WCS for foreigners) and lower even more the foreigner skill. Cool, I am OK with that, at least they will re-broadcast Korean leagues when EU/NA will become pathetic.

Would it lower the average skill short term? Yeah sure, but that misses the point. The idea is to have a competetive foreigner scene which actually wants to become better and has the chance to do so.
Which means that players need the stability to go fulltime if they are good enough to try that step.
Right now that is not the case. How can a potential sc2 ladder hero even be motivated to try the next step when he has to play vs some korean progamer in wcs qualifiers?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
October 15 2015 23:01 GMT
#60
On October 16 2015 00:42 Ej_ wrote:
lol Korea sending Zergs to WCS to show Hydra how it's done


practice a lot eat a lot shit a lot?
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