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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On July 10 2015 18:39 saddaromma wrote: Hmm, 3-base 200/200 deathball is more strategic than BW? I should really rethink my life. Right clicking mineral patches for 45 minutes? So strategic  Takes 200 APM to get up a ramp? So strategic If physical difficulty was what determined strategy then arm wrestling is more strategic than being the general of the US army. Please don't oversimplify either game sir. | ||
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AdrianHealeyy
114 Posts
On July 04 2015 02:01 Barrin wrote: Get ready, I'm about to make Artosis look silly. --- He doesn't define "strategy"  , but thankfully he gives us an example of what he means:He's basically measuring "strategy" by how much mechanics/execution influences the outcome. In other words, the harder it is to "make as many units as possible and to move those units in the right way", the less "strategy" is involved. Conversely, the less "mechanics and speed" are required, the more "strategy" is involved. Did I get that right? Yes? Good. Let us reiterate, *ahem*: the less "mechanics and speed" are required, the more "strategy" is involved By this logic, all turn-based games are more "strategic" than any real-time game, because they require less mechanics and speed. That's right: by Artosis' logic, Chess is more strategic than SC2. Indeed -- according to this logic -- Hearthstone is more strategic than SC2. Yes.. even Tic Tac Toe is more strategic than SC2. + Show Spoiler [poll] + /thread In terms of percentage of importance, chess absolutely is more strategic than SC, either version. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On June 30 2015 12:44 Waxangel wrote: But basically I'm posting this just to fish for a response from Rekrul First time I am missing the Facebook "LIKE" button on a TL response. GJ Wax!! | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On July 10 2015 22:45 Thieving Magpie wrote: Right clicking mineral patches for 45 minutes? So strategic Takes 200 APM to get up a ramp? So strategic If physical difficulty was what determined strategy then arm wrestling is more strategic than being the general of the US army. Please don't oversimplify either game sir. Right click mineral fields for 45 minutes? Once you set up your eco which is usually in the first 10-15 min, unless your opponent is dropping you or doing all kinds of shenanigans to make you lose workers, you'll likely be focusing on unit production (and eventually take another exp etc...). As for the ramp part, hehe, nothing beats managing to move up a ramp just in time before ultras arrive and you block them off using a medic block or d-matrix a unit and leave it on the ramp. I would say its strategic because you read the situation and executed said decision to make sure your army survives. | ||
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Broodwurst
Germany1586 Posts
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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cheekymonkey
France1387 Posts
I just don't get why there's so much salt | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
Or you could take what Artosis said at face value and not assume he is suggesting one game is better than the other. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 11 2015 10:22 cheekymonkey wrote: I just don't get why there's so much salt because if my dick isn't the longest it rots and falls off | ||
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XenOsky
Chile2358 Posts
On June 30 2015 17:26 NasusAndDraven wrote: I admit i dont know much about the bw scene, but on what scale was artosis a professional at sc1? . there are korean progamers, A team progamers, B team progamers, semi-pro, high level foreigner, medium level foreigner, then, good foreigners, then artosis, he was a decent american terran, not even top 10 in USA. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17750 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On July 11 2015 12:32 Die4Ever wrote: Lol how is this thread still going? Guys, I calculated it, the average SC2 game has 47 units of strategy, BW games only have 46 on average. If you factor in that SC2 has way more matches per year than BW that puts SC2 WAY ahead, no contest. Reported for inciting war!  | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17750 Posts
It's just how the math works out! | ||
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
On July 11 2015 12:16 XenOsky- wrote: there are korean progamers, A team progamers, B team progamers, semi-pro, high level foreigner, medium level foreigner, then, good foreigners, then artosis, he was a decent american terran, not even top 10 in USA. He was definitely top 10 USA around 2000 - 2002. He just failed to keep up as the game developed. | ||
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Fatam
1986 Posts
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
On July 11 2015 16:26 Fatam wrote: only top 10 players can make comments about a game and be correct I hope that you are being sarcastic. | ||
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MidnightZL
Sweden203 Posts
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Fatam
1986 Posts
yes. I would have put "k_appa" after it but if you write that word you get auto-warned by the TL bots lol and I think 2nd time gets you a small ban | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On July 11 2015 16:26 Fatam wrote: only top 10 players can make comments about a game and be correct Sad that flash too chobo to talk about SC2 then  | ||
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