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Artosis says SC2 is more strategic than BW

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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33315 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-30 03:44:52
June 30 2015 03:44 GMT
#1
http://scdojo.tumblr.com/post/122799820950/thoughts-on-the-gsl-kespa-defeat

...Let me get this out of the way: StarCraft 2 is more strategic than StarCraft 1. Both are RTS (Real Time Strategy) games, but they have different emphasises. SC1 is a Real Time Strategy game, and SC2 is a Real Time Strategy game.

SC1 is a game of speed and mechanics. Yes, there is a lot of strategy, of course, but it is certainly secondary to being able to make as many units as possible and to move those units in the right way.

SC2 is a game of strategy. Yes, there are lots of mechanics and speed required, of course, but those are much less punishing than making incorrect strategic choices...


Oh yeah he said some stuff about the GSL finals and Rain and KeSPA and stuff too.

But basically I'm posting this just to fish for a response from Rekrul
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 30 2015 03:51 GMT
#2
The elephant in the room
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10668 Posts
June 30 2015 03:53 GMT
#3
On June 30 2015 12:44 Waxangel wrote:

basically I'm posting this just to fish for a response from Rekrul


Haha, I think there are more strategic elements in StarCraft 2, but I am not sure StarCraft 2 could be considered more "strategic", although...

Here comes one hell of a thread.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19224 Posts
June 30 2015 03:56 GMT
#4
Lol.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 30 2015 03:56 GMT
#5
On June 30 2015 12:51 stuchiu wrote:
The elephant in the room


the mouse in the closet
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2101 Posts
June 30 2015 03:57 GMT
#6
Reaaaally Wax...
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 30 2015 03:57 GMT
#7
On June 30 2015 12:57 Blargh wrote:
Reaaaally Wax...


Artosis was the one who wrote it.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19224 Posts
June 30 2015 03:59 GMT
#8
On June 30 2015 12:57 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2015 12:57 Blargh wrote:
Reaaaally Wax...


Artosis was the one who wrote it.

You can bring an elephant to a room, but you can't make it play Starcraft.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 30 2015 04:01 GMT
#9

On June 30 2015 12:44 Waxangel wrote:
But basically I'm posting this just to fish for a response from Rekrul

Good luck with that...
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Pontius Pirate
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United States1557 Posts
June 30 2015 04:12 GMT
#10
I feel like I just walked into a room full of TL writers and moderators as cats in the home of a cat lady, and here we have Waxangel, the beta, waltzing right over to Rekrul's litter box, and pissing in it, long and slow, while staring him in the eyes the entire time.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 30 2015 04:12 GMT
#11
lol
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6328 Posts
June 30 2015 04:14 GMT
#12
Um... Pretty sure any opinion on this would be a controversial one.
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Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
June 30 2015 04:14 GMT
#13
oh boy this is gonna be good
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boon2537
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States905 Posts
June 30 2015 04:16 GMT
#14
I'm bookmarking this thread for later :D
LastManProductions
Profile Joined September 2013
United States252 Posts
June 30 2015 04:24 GMT
#15
He would know, as he was/is a professional in both sc1 and sc2.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
June 30 2015 04:27 GMT
#16
Meh, sensational title.

He just means the strategy has more room in SC2 because mechanics aren't as hard as in BW, so the player with the best strategy can often wins against the player with the best mechanics.
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caznitch
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada645 Posts
June 30 2015 04:31 GMT
#17
I'll bite:

I like that Artosis compared the strategic beauty of sc2 with the beauty of sc1 micro (muta, vulture and reaver were explicitly mentioned). The only thing I'd add is that there is no reason sc2 can't incorporate better micro ala sc1 (Depth of Micro by Lalush). Sorry for harping on this again but I can't see why this can't be added.
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therabit
Profile Joined August 2011
795 Posts
June 30 2015 04:33 GMT
#18
I kinda agree with him. But then again I suck at both SC1 and 2 so I might have no idea what I'm talking about
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
June 30 2015 04:33 GMT
#19
I actually agree with his point. Strategies have a lot more room in SC2. Mvp would never ever win his 4th GSL title if not for that very reason. He won the title purely off his strategic brilliance. However, it doesn't really mean SC1 lacks Strategy or SC2 lacks mechanic requirement. SC1 still has immense strategic value and the same goes for SC2 mechanical skill.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10668 Posts
June 30 2015 04:33 GMT
#20
On June 30 2015 13:31 caznitch wrote:
I'll bite:



Got me too...the only thing more strategical about SC2 compared to BW is the fact that SC2 has way more abilities than BW, I would honestly go as far to say that BW is more strategical than SC2, and SC2 just has more abilities, more and more like a MOBA.
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