EPTBBC 'Scars of Korean Gaming' - Page 2
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Vandrad
Germany951 Posts
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cravin74
Malaysia1088 Posts
I think there was something more to it. Actually you could look for the press release/thread on TL after Flash had the surgery. Think it was in 2011 iirc. Edit: Found an old blog post with some pics: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/267099-flashs-surgery-has-been-successful | ||
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
Can you imagine how many athletes been injured in the gym? Millions. And this closing comment takes the cake: "During my time with KT Rolster my point of view flip-flopped between seeing gaming as either serious business, or a serious problem. With the relentless tap-tap-tap of keyboards still echoing in my ears, I came to the only reasonable conclusion I could: it's both. " TLDR: esports is such a dangerous addiction it might just kill you. Pfff. Took my twitter out of retirement to tweet the journalist. https://twitter.com/daveleebbc | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
For a carpal tunnel syndrome surgery is made directly at the wrist though afaik. On June 06 2015 19:02 cravin74 wrote: I think there was something more to it. Actually you could look for the press release/thread on TL after Flash had the surgery. Think it was in 2011 iirc. Edit: Found an old blog post with some pics: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/267099-flashs-surgery-has-been-successful Thanks for the link, I found my answer there and by dwelling in old threads on tL | ||
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LOLingBuddha
Netherlands697 Posts
On June 06 2015 18:47 Vandrad wrote: Lol pretty much every professional sport destroys your body. ^^ this | ||
Teoita
Italy12247 Posts
What a misinformed article. | ||
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The_Australian
Australia458 Posts
What about the comparison between athletes in other fields "destroying their lives"? Cyclists for example typically have a way higher chance of prostate injury or erectile dysfunction, yet it's a perfectly acceptable path to take in life. Seems to me to be more contradictory BBC journalism. | ||
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MidnightZL
Sweden203 Posts
It seemed like the confirmation I'd been expecting - that gaming in South Korea had reached a dangerous place, where professionals and amateurs alike were destroying their lives and their bodies. Really wierd sentence to say the least. The houskeeper treats them as children at a pre-school "She loves them, she told me. "They're adorable."  | ||
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jrdeal
United States24 Posts
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
On June 06 2015 20:43 The_Australian wrote: It was fine until the last two lines. The article even describes the many "glistening" trophies he has won. Which one is it BBC? Is it hard working people earning trophies and "winning everything in his field", or is it young people destroying their lives and bodies over "stupid" video games? What about the comparison between athletes in other fields "destroying their lives"? Cyclists for example typically have a way higher chance of prostate injury or erectile dysfunction, yet it's a perfectly acceptable path to take in life. Seems to me to be more contradictory BBC journalism. I don't think the comparison with athletes is a good ones. Even though their careers are short, professional athletes don't retire before they are nearing fourty, while most progamers barely make it to the 25-year-old mark. Additionally, the latter usually sacrifice their education just to try to get into the progaming scene, a scene that can not yet provice stable salaries for the majority of the players. Look at Boxer: went from being a star to being a professional gambler. I have a lot of respect for players like Stephano and Thorzain who quit and used their earnings to fund their entry into university before they became too old to enter the job market. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
On June 06 2015 21:29 maartendq wrote: I don't think the comparison with athletes is a good ones. Even though their careers are short, professional athletes don't retire before they are nearing fourty, while most progamers barely make it to the 25-year-old mark. Additionally, the latter usually sacrifice their education just to try to get into the progaming scene, a scene that can not yet provice stable salaries for the majority of the players. Look at Boxer: went from being a star to being a professional gambler. I have a lot of respect for players like Stephano and Thorzain who quit and used their earnings to fund their entry into university before they became too old to enter the job market. It is a good comparison, because those sports would look exactly like this if there wouldn't be as much money to allow regulations that are made to protect their players/athletes. Also you are talking about those that made it. Those that doesn't usually have a bad education and took crippling damage to their body at around 18-26~. Once you make it pro you get the best healthcare there is, but before you are on your own. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
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MidnightZL
Sweden203 Posts
On June 06 2015 21:29 maartendq wrote: I have a lot of respect for players like Stephano and Thorzain who quit and used their earnings to fund their entry into university before they became too old to enter the job market. Well it's ofc up to them but i dont like the way of quitting something u love to do, they seem to do it just for the money with no special passion, if u really got passion for it then u dont quit for getting an education.. But i think it will be older and older progamers every year now, ppl will get that they can play much longer than most have done so far, too many quitting way too early, u dont get slower reactions if ure 30 yo, at least not that much so it could harm your gamingcarreer. Theyre just doing what their parents said they should do in life to be happy, "quit gaming and get a real job", it's always those lines, and im fucking tired of that crap, it's very sad gamers even today fall for this... Play longer, Play all your life, IF you really love it!! But i guess were not there yet, but in a few years maybe... | ||
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Teoita
Italy12247 Posts
On June 06 2015 21:29 maartendq wrote: I don't think the comparison with athletes is a good ones. Even though their careers are short, professional athletes don't retire before they are nearing fourty, while most progamers barely make it to the 25-year-old mark. Additionally, the latter usually sacrifice their education just to try to get into the progaming scene, a scene that can not yet provice stable salaries for the majority of the players. Look at Boxer: went from being a star to being a professional gambler. I have a lot of respect for players like Stephano and Thorzain who quit and used their earnings to fund their entry into university before they became too old to enter the job market. In a lot of countries, athletes do sacrifice their education. Just look at the average european soccer player, the vast majority of them has never gone remotely close to a university. I think a massive reason why progamers retire earlier than professional athletes is simply that they get bored and stop enjoying what they do faster, which makes sense considering basically the only way to practice a videogame is to play it. Professional athletes on the other hand spend less time playing their sports and more exercising in a variety of ways. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
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NasusAndDraven
359 Posts
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Seiuchi
United States931 Posts
On June 07 2015 00:46 NasusAndDraven wrote: Lol at all the nerd tears ITT. Gaming is unhealthy. Playing real sports is healthy. Get over it. Nothing says healthy like every pitcher in Major League Baseball getting Tommy John surgery as if it's a rite of passage! | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24239 Posts
On June 07 2015 00:46 NasusAndDraven wrote: Lol at all the nerd tears ITT. Gaming is unhealthy. Playing real sports is healthy. Get over it. High level sport is just as good as high level gaming at breaking your body and making you an ugly old man -probably even worse, I'd rather be 50 year old Flash than 50 year old Gatlin, and no that's not because I know even 50 year old Flash would be infinitely more skilled than me ^^ | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5222 Posts
On June 06 2015 18:47 Vandrad wrote: Lol pretty much every professional sport destroys your body. I was thinking the same thing and I'm pretty disappointed that the article took that angle. We could write articles for days about how traditional sports at the highest levels damages your body, and just about every traditional sport is far more damaging than SC2. But we still play and watch them. | ||
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KrOmander
United Kingdom78 Posts
That said I do not understand why the journalist ends his article thinking that the e-sports scene is a serious problem. Nothing bad is happening and I find the level of dedication quite inspiring personally. Sure one can focus on the negative sides such as common wrist injuries and lack of activity for large parts of the day, but that is just being a right old negative nancy. | ||
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