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Red Bull hints at Archon Mode Tournament - Page 5

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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
May 11 2015 21:40 GMT
#81
On May 12 2015 02:34 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 02:14 Tuczniak wrote:
While archon is fun, I would be rather interested in mixed league where 1v2s are common. The rules would have to be thought out very well so strategy comes into play.

Korea vs The World. 1v2. To see if Korea is at least twice as good as The World. LET'S GO.


This and the normal archon mode sounds cool. I just hope standard of gameplay actually rises because of this
rip passion
Swoopae
Profile Joined January 2015
Australia339 Posts
May 11 2015 21:59 GMT
#82
Could be fun for the occasional event. I'd watch.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 11 2015 22:19 GMT
#83
Do they have to archon the casting too?
Like.. both of them talk into one mic.
kiss kiss fall in love
ManDudeBroGuy
Profile Joined May 2015
1 Post
May 11 2015 23:27 GMT
#84
After watching 1v1 for nearly 5 years and the rare 2v2 tourney, I'm bored... I want to see something new. Haters keep the hate to yourselves. There are more than enough 1v1 tourneys to go around and there always will be as long as the game lives.

Whoever said, "don't throw serious money at this" LOL, fuck off dude. What a selfish thing to say.
MinKi
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)151 Posts
May 11 2015 23:39 GMT
#85
this is awesome, will for sure revive starcraft
"I'm a starcraft jock. I'm not a nerd" - Artosis
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
May 12 2015 00:24 GMT
#86
On May 12 2015 06:29 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 04:20 Crownlol wrote:
Team modes and leagues only increase participation and viewership (thus, money) for the sport. Stop hating every change, and stop talking shit about the game constantly. Just look at the viewer numbers to the right - CS:GO has 100k and it's just a random weekday league. The big reasons for that is that it's easy to follow a team over a player, the community is more supportive(sorry guys), and it's a team game. Also betting skins, but, meh.



i may not have read every post in this thread but i didn't see anyone "shitting" on this, only people (including myself) raising concerns about whether archon mode is fun to watch or has a quality observer setup for spectating. i'm not going to fawn over something i don't find interesting or exciting to artificially inflate some conception of community support. frankly i don't give about how this community compares to that of other games i don't watch, i'm posting honest feedback and honest opinions


On May 11 2015 12:33 varsovie wrote:
God please no....


On May 11 2015 12:41 showstealer1829 wrote:
I second varsovie's statement. I think Archon Mode is a cool idea but it has no place in competition, it just dumbs down the game when it doesn't need to be


On May 11 2015 12:54 Blargh wrote:
Maybe for funsy matches, but please, don't put serious money on this...


On May 11 2015 13:57 brickrd wrote:
maybe i'm alone on this, but i don't think archon mode is fun to watch at all. unless they come up with a good observer UI that helps the viewer understand which player is doing what, it's just confusing. there's no added enjoyment from watching a team of two players if the distinction between them is invisible!



On May 11 2015 19:29 KingAlphard wrote:
The hype will die really quickly once everyone will realise that archon mode does not belong in competitive sc2.
Even 4v4s or FFAs are more competitive lol.

2 progamers probably play worse than 1 in archon mode because they are more annoying to each other than they help. So the only thing it does is reducing the skill gap between the teams compared to the single players. So hype.



shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
May 12 2015 00:42 GMT
#87
I hate everything new and interesting because I fear change, if it were up to me we'd only ever play on 1 map, therefore archon mode tournaments will only lead to the downfall of starcraft and subsequently, humanity as a whole.
Simon and Garfunkel rock my face off
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
May 12 2015 02:49 GMT
#88
I can't wait to see people who are fans of one member of an Archon and not the other blame every mistake the team makes on the player they don't like.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
May 12 2015 04:21 GMT
#89
There's a lot of opportunity for commentators to insert a narrative in such matches.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
j4vz
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada976 Posts
May 12 2015 04:37 GMT
#90
We might need archon observers tho
someone_elses_lies@live.fr
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 06:29:58
May 12 2015 06:29 GMT
#91
On top of the unit selection, it'd be cool to have the screen of each player on the minimap, so you can see how one players screen hovers over the bases and the other players screen are over the army. And how all four screens converge over the large battles. Actually that'd be neat in one in one observing as well.
quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
May 12 2015 11:02 GMT
#92
On May 11 2015 14:02 MoonyD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 13:57 brickrd wrote:
maybe i'm alone on this, but i don't think archon mode is fun to watch at all. unless they come up with a good observer UI that helps the viewer understand which player is doing what, it's just confusing. there's no added enjoyment from watching a team of two players if the distinction between them is invisible!



I completely agree with you. Perhaps a colour coding for each player would be good just so the audience can distinguish who is the one in control doing what. I agree with previous posts in that the game design atm is quite 'unbalanced' and there's a lot of flaws in the new units that will no doubt be abused by pro-gamers.

Nonetheless, I'm sure the event will be incredibly fun. (Even if there won't be many protoss making it to the later stages of the tournament) Besides, it's a good way for the pro-gamers to connect with the fans and to basically muck up with the new units.


BW had selection circles of a player's color around units, even though the units were of a team's color. Here's a SC2 version:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-maps/167387-team-melee

You can see red marines with different color selection circles around them, indicating who's the controller.
All candles lit within him, and there was purity. | First auto-promoted BW LP editor.
cutler
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany609 Posts
May 13 2015 04:04 GMT
#93
lets see..."BW posts"..."i want 2vs2 league posts"..."i dont care but i support red bull posts"..."this will be dumb posts"..." i dont like lotv design posts"

well from my point of view i am excited to see this in action. Although it will be even more harder to keep up with all the action on the map for observers.
Mekare
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany393 Posts
May 13 2015 13:12 GMT
#94
I really like the idea, hope they go through with it
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2720 Posts
June 26 2015 16:13 GMT
#95
On the Red Bull site:

Toronto WCS Qualifier

June 26th, 2015

Pre-Show 1:30 PM PDT

Matches Begin 2:00 PM PDT

June 26-28 Toronto Qualifier

I really hope someone will cast this.
very illegal and very uncool
stardog
Profile Joined August 2011
556 Posts
June 26 2015 16:40 GMT
#96
I'd like to see Life-Maru, Stephano-Naniwa, Bunny-Snute, Nerchio-Mana, Parting-MC, hero-$O$.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46204 Posts
June 26 2015 16:52 GMT
#97
This'll be sick!!!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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