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EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
May 02 2015 06:17 GMT
#41
On May 02 2015 14:50 ZenithM wrote:
Damn, TL sure is stubborn, I can't say I dislike that :D. This will probably just be played exactly like HotS though, I don't have much hope of it being a real eye-opener.


It means that we've found a model we're very comfortable with that serves as an alternate to the LotV model. We're not looking necessarily to "showmatch" the mod the or show how it's revolutionary, but rather to give the mod a chance to be playtested on a large scale via a community contest. In addition, the games will provide lots of valuable replay data that will help convince Blizzard that this is a legitimate direction to go towards (since you know, they like numbers so much :p).
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EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
May 02 2015 06:17 GMT
#42
On May 02 2015 15:15 ASoo wrote:
No pressure, but everybody has to play the best, most exciting games of their lives, or else they're literally killing esports.


You spelled ESPORTS wrong.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-02 06:33:32
May 02 2015 06:31 GMT
#43
On May 02 2015 15:17 SC2John wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 14:50 ZenithM wrote:
Damn, TL sure is stubborn, I can't say I dislike that :D. This will probably just be played exactly like HotS though, I don't have much hope of it being a real eye-opener.


It means that we've found a model we're very comfortable with that serves as an alternate to the LotV model. We're not looking necessarily to "showmatch" the mod the or show how it's revolutionary, but rather to give the mod a chance to be playtested on a large scale via a community contest. In addition, the games will provide lots of valuable replay data that will help convince Blizzard that this is a legitimate direction to go towards (since you know, they like numbers so much :p).

Making it a contest precisely makes it a bit dangerous. I'm not sure it will be exemplary of how this economic system is meant to be played out (for it to be beneficial). People are competitive, and people didn't have much time to practice with the model, they're bound to fail if they just expand at haphazard timings.
At most, I expect some new 2 base plays being successful, but I really wouldn't expect 4+ base plays which are the end-goal of DH. I hope for nothing more than being proven wrong. You may retort that it costs nothing to try it, but actually if this fails to show at least some interesting high-level games, this will further convince Blizzard to disregard the idea.

Overall I like the idea though, I'm not convinced with DH anyway so it costs nothing for me at least ;D
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-02 07:02:03
May 02 2015 07:01 GMT
#44
On May 02 2015 15:15 ASoo wrote:
No pressure, but everybody has to play the best, most exciting games of their lives, or else they're literally killing esports.


That's the spirit! Get 'em boys!

We believe in you!
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9590 Posts
May 02 2015 07:23 GMT
#45
Honestly, I'm hyped for this I wanna see this DH mode at work.
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tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
May 02 2015 07:24 GMT
#46
What's Blizzard's stance on this? Did they ever respond to the article you guys made to explain what you meant by the first article?

Like, do they want you guys to run tournies to see how the new economy design flows in competitive games? Or is this just "HEY, LOOK HOW IT WORKS" kinda?
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33693 Posts
May 02 2015 07:33 GMT
#47
could this be the first TLOpen since the TSL4 qualifiers that's not a gigantic cheesefest?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Ferisii
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark199 Posts
May 02 2015 07:44 GMT
#48
On May 02 2015 16:33 Waxangel wrote:
could this be the first TLOpen since the TSL4 qualifiers that's not a gigantic cheesefest?

Don't underestimate players creativity to make whatever cheese variant happen! But sure, multi-spawn maps will surely ease on it. ;-)
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-02 07:56:59
May 02 2015 07:52 GMT
#49
FROST AND WHIRLWIND HYPEEEEE

e: I assume you will be able to play on EU/KR if both players agree on it?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
ZombieFrog
Profile Joined August 2014
United States87 Posts
May 02 2015 07:53 GMT
#50
I feel like given lack of preparation with this economic model I'm not sure how many 4+ base plays are going to happen, and that's kind of the point of changing the economic model. Course I'm also not sure that this model is actually better then blizzard's proposal, but I'll watch to see if anything looks really good in the tournament.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
May 02 2015 08:00 GMT
#51
Exactly which DH model will be used? 8, 9, 10?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
MaximilianKohler
Profile Joined August 2011
122 Posts
May 02 2015 08:02 GMT
#52
Is this going to be any different from the scarlett vs parting match? Because that match showed us that these changes are nowhere near drastic enough.

IMO LOTV changes are more drastic than what we saw in that showmatch...
masters zerg
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
May 02 2015 08:09 GMT
#53
This sounds like rly fun.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
May 02 2015 09:10 GMT
#54
On May 02 2015 17:00 Penev wrote:
Exactly which DH model will be used? 8, 9, 10?


DH9
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Loddigesia
Profile Joined April 2010
247 Posts
May 02 2015 09:24 GMT
#55
NA region tournament played at a euro friendly time, weird

Great initiative anyway!
aka gorfou
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
May 02 2015 09:32 GMT
#56
TL Opens are pretty much always like that, only usually it's on weekends so it's less of an issue for NA players. Unfortunately this time it wasn't possible, but as plexa said we'll make up for it soon
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
May 02 2015 09:34 GMT
#57
On May 02 2015 18:24 Loddigesia wrote:
NA region tournament played at a euro friendly time, weird

Great initiative anyway!

Yeah haha. I don't have a problem with the time... but it's weird to have it based on NA at that time Why not just throw it on EU where you can get more players?
Wahaha
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
May 02 2015 09:36 GMT
#58
NA is easily accessible for both EU and KR players mostly, which is why TL Opens are usually on there
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
May 02 2015 09:41 GMT
#59
I wanna absolutely play this but I'm in my flat in my university's city with a crappy internet. Maybe I can play with my mobile phone's 3G.
Daeracon
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden202 Posts
May 02 2015 10:28 GMT
#60
This is a really cool idea, really looking forward to it!
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