EPTGSL Season 2 to be shown in Medium Quality! - Page 7
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ThomasjServo
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klipik12
United States241 Posts
It should be standard. Or better. | ||
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life617
United States25 Posts
On March 13 2015 22:25 Dingodile wrote: Wow, then you will complain endless about this service in multimedia platforms in your entire life. It was standard ~5 yrs ago, not today. performance/price is worse today than ~5 yrs ago. Look football prices. Bundesliga did cost 15€monthly (inclusive full PL and La Liga games), HD was free. Today: Only Bundesliga cost 25€, HD for additional €5. I can go for more details about maxdrome (netflix as german thing) and many more. They all go for "more money and less performance" for customer. They all pull together. No dude, I am not going to be complaining about anything. If I could afford to spend the extra money to watch the gsl I might...well probably not. Since I cannot which has been the case since day one, nothing has really changed. Twitch/Youtube are very different from paid services such as Netflix, Amazon Video, Hulu or any other video streaming service such as those. They are both built around the idea of free user created content. They give everyday people a platform to be heard/seen around the world. Companies attempting to take advantage of these platforms for their own benefits is dirty. | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
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ilikeredheads
Canada1995 Posts
GOM is still a dinosaur that doesn't want to adapt to reality. Blizzard just doesn't give a damn that there's this double standard. Spotv is doing a way better job than GOM with proleague and SSL both in terms of production value and quality of games. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51458 Posts
On March 14 2015 04:06 ilikeredheads wrote: WOW medium quality!! it's 2010 all over!! Let's celebrate!!! pops champagne bottle GOM is still a dinosaur that doesn't want to adapt to reality. Blizzard just doesn't give a damn that there's this double standard. Spotv is doing a way better job than GOM with proleague and SSL both in terms of production value and quality of games. Yes because they have way more money and other games/leagues that pull in more viewers/players/whatever than GOM does. GOM started up when SC2 started up iirc, and this is there game. They tried to spread out into WoT and such but i haven't heard of anything on those leagues in a while. Without GOM we would have had to wait ages before we got to see a Korean league for SC2 due to KESPA not jumping ship until late 2012? | ||
digmouse
China6327 Posts
On March 14 2015 04:10 Pandemona wrote: Yes because they have way more money and other games/leagues that pull in more viewers/players/whatever than GOM does. GOM started up when SC2 started up iirc, and this is there game. They tried to spread out into WoT and such but i haven't heard of anything on those leagues in a while. Without GOM we would have had to wait ages before we got to see a Korean league for SC2 due to KESPA not jumping ship until late 2012? Gom does deserve praise and recognition for starting all these awesome things and sticking with SC2 during its dark times. That however, does not mean it can bury its head in sand refusing to adapt to times and be immune to competition. | ||
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Yoshirou_Iba
Paraguay37 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Kofuku
31 Posts
On March 14 2015 04:19 digmouse wrote: Gom does deserve praise and recognition for starting all these awesome things and sticking with SC2 during its dark times. That however, does not mean it can bury its head in sand refusing to adapt to times and be immune to competition. I don't think they can be "immune to competition" either. The NSSL is great in terms of applying competitive pressure on GSL from our consumer perspective. GSL is clearly trying to compete, but in a way that's not popular to a lot of non-Korean viewers. I'm curious as to how important a segment this foreign audience is to GSL, in terms of their current revenue generation. GSL is obviously not selling ads to foreigner-oriented companies, and a huge number of viewers uses adblock too. How else can they monetize foreign viewership but by charging for certain viewing privileges? I suppose that SPOTV is at a huge operational advantage because they are an actual large sports network, their overhead costs (for the SC2 unit) are probably much lower, and they could probably even afford to run it at a loss or very low profit margin, unlike GSL which is not seriously diversified. | ||
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tar
Germany991 Posts
On March 13 2015 22:58 Shuffleblade wrote: Name this "free" service that you could not watch through proxy or other means even though you were outside of the US. The internet is all connected mate, one example of this is television. Sure if its aired in USA on their television channels then it is exclusive then fine. If you air it over the internet it is never private to a specific group, you can try by for example password protect it but in the end its futile its there its public. Nothing on the internet is private, not really its all public. Its like setting up a store on the street and just letting the people living on one side of the street buy there. It doesn't make sense and its impossible to tell who lives where when they come to your store. By the way the money need to come from somewhere, they money for what? If a european sees an american series that series is already produced and getting paid for by the demographic. There is nothing to pay for, of course the people want to earn money but thats another thing alltogether. Your notion of the internet is idealistic at best. Laws and rules apply to it as they do offline. Thus, even so you may circumvent the paywall (proxy) easily you have no right to do so. Otherwise shoplifting would be alright too. Furthermore, as stated before, the content isn't really free. It is paid for in one way or another. This means that by circumventing the viewer restrictions, you are getting something for free that others have to pay for. And just because they already earned their money with one audience does not mean the rest of the world gets it for free. Why would that be? Do rights just expire after you break even? I am sorry but that is not the way the world works. You might wish for it to be different but it isn't. The owners decide who and who not may use their property. And your shop example isn't working at all. If I pay a shop to give free soda to all people living on the left side of the street as long as they show some document, eg electricity bills, that confirms where they live and you go there even so you live on the right side, show the vendor a fake bill (that would be your proxy usage) to receive free soda then you are not in the right but committing fraud. | ||
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Togekiss
Canada154 Posts
I am more than able and willing to pay for subscriptions (as I did at GSL back with the gom vod system for over a year before they moved everything to twitch) but I will refuse to do so when I'm only concerned with the vod set-up which is absolutely awful on twitch. Free medium quality for the live stream definitely makes things a bit more watchable for the live audience, but for people like me who work a full-time job during the day and am sleeping when this all goes down live, I still won't be any more inclined to pay for a sub when I can't even enjoy a decently satisfactory vod system. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5217 Posts
On March 13 2015 23:50 DinoMight wrote: Very few things that are free are free because the company providing them feels especially charitable. Free streams are usually paid for by the advertisers. GSL advertisers being mostly Korean, they have very little to gain from advertising outside Korea.. which means that some of the revenue needed to achieve GSL's target profits needs to come from stream subscriptions. It's common sense for anyone who knows anything about how businesses work. Anyone claiming "they're greedy" or "they make enough money already" is either naive or talking out of their ass. Perhaps the increase to Medium is because they feel pressure to compete with other tournaments who generally display their games in better quality. We don't have any of GSL's data and we can't make any assumptions about their motives. ... so why not get some English advertisers for the English stream? The stream is entirely separate from the Korean stream. Of course, first they will have to show that foreigners actually want to watch the GSL, which means they should improve their quality to see what their foreign stream audience could be like. | ||
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ilsamsamchil
155 Posts
On March 13 2015 19:38 neptunusfisk wrote: Yay medium, very nice ._. In Korea, vods and streams are free.. but they region block the KR videos? And whine about production cost? It is not like it will cost them anything to NOT region block the KR vods... maybe the increased viewership can make them afford artosis?  ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/aTtpL9F.png) This is my biggest problem too, why is spotv allowed to stream Korean contents in full HD but gom isn't? | ||
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Garemie
United States248 Posts
I wish more people COULD sub, but there's nothing wrong with that. Cheers for medium! | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
Oh wait, we're in 2015. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
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mikumegurine
Canada3145 Posts
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On March 13 2015 19:40 graNite wrote: i dont get why they wouldnt make 720p free. they get enough money from sponsored ads and twitch already, why the extra subscriptions? Enough money? I don't understand the concept. | ||
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