On February 10 2015 16:02 neobowman wrote: Kespa's in a really shitty spot tbh. No matter what they do about this right now, it can come off as negative.
why would it? let the players play. if they can't come up with enough money (or distribute the money they have correctly), or opportunities to play, that many players feel the need to play in smaller tournaments, that's kespa's fault. taking the line of "we can't police it, so we'll just ban it" is comical
I like KeSPA giving a shit about this, I really honestly do.
But here's what I don't understand. The allegations we've been hearing have absolutely positively included online KR tournaments. In fact one of the few tournaments that came under explicit suspicion (rightly or wrongly) was Smallest Map Possible, which is, you guessed it, Korean!
How does KeSPA players not participating in non-KR events help if (a part of) the problem is in Korea? "It is difficult to regulate such tournaments as they are run from outside of Korea" seems like a puzzling statement when KR events are coming under suspicion. Maybe the translation in the OP is incomplete, and KeSPA is going to regulate Korean weekly events (and would regulate non-Korean ones, but that is very difficult for obvious reasons)? I definitely want more info.
On February 10 2015 16:02 neobowman wrote: Kespa's in a really shitty spot tbh. No matter what they do about this right now, it can come off as negative.
why would it? let the players play. if they can't come up with enough money (or distribute the money they have correctly), or opportunities to play, that many players feel the need to play in smaller tournaments, that's kespa's fault. taking the line of "we can't police it, so we'll just ban it" is comical
They are going to attempt to police it. Thr problem is going to stem from "private sponsors". If organizations can say "These are our sponsors, thanks to them, we are getting the finances to run this tournament and pay the players" then KeSPA can look into it and say "this is a legit tournament.
If a million tournaments are going to say "we are getting money from somewhere, but that somewhere is none of your business", then KeSPA isn't going to trust them as credible tournment hosts, and thus they won't have KeSPA players.
Their job is to support eSports, not to magically provide magnificant opportunities to everyone with a dream. If you don't have money, you still don't accept money from strangers with odd deals to make with you. That's called shady and untrustworthy, and could fuck you or somebody else over in real life.
On February 11 2015 00:58 geokilla wrote: So I guess no more KeSPA players in online tournaments now.
KeSPA isn't saying that their players can't play online tournaments, merely that they're going to be cautious and only allow them to play in the ones they trust. Put it this way, if TB (Just using him cause he posted in thread and has worked with KeSPA before) announced another Shoutcraft Invitational tomorrow I doubt KeSPA would block their players, they might ask to see who is the sponsor and who is on the observer list, which given the current circumstances is perfectly within reason.
I doubt Olimoleague has any problems, Olimoley has already stated she won't allow Korean casters/observers because of this. There will be always a tournament out there KeSPA players can play in, it just is a smaller pool of them
It seems unlikely that KeSPA would keep their players out of larger online events, particularly Sandisk-sized tournaments with major name sponsors. This will only be an issue for smaller events with sketchy sponsors and frankly KeSPA is doing what they're supposed to be doing, protecting the scene and their players from potential criminal activity.
I wonder if Kespa is going to take it seriously when the world's largest sportsbook has now cancelled bets on a proleague match, a Code S match and this week now (as of what I last heard) they are investigating a Starleague match for 'not being played on a fair basis'and have frozen bets on it pending investigation (as of a few hrs ago)
At the very least Kespa should investigate. If they're not going to keep their leagues and players clean, then what's the point of Kespa even existing?
On February 11 2015 20:52 pure.Wasted wrote: I like KeSPA giving a shit about this, I really honestly do.
But here's what I don't understand. The allegations we've been hearing have absolutely positively included online KR tournaments. In fact one of the few tournaments that came under explicit suspicion (rightly or wrongly) was Smallest Map Possible, which is, you guessed it, Korean!
How does KeSPA players not participating in non-KR events help if (a part of) the problem is in Korea? "It is difficult to regulate such tournaments as they are run from outside of Korea" seems like a puzzling statement when KR events are coming under suspicion. Maybe the translation in the OP is incomplete, and KeSPA is going to regulate Korean weekly events (and would regulate non-Korean ones, but that is very difficult for obvious reasons)? I definitely want more info.
So... uh... seems like a good time to quote this post in great anticipation of a non-forthcoming answer.
Kespa where is your response? If you don't think match fixing is going on then go ahead and say so. If you're willing to investigate but haven't yet, say that. The silence is deafening. Your league is dirty right now. Your job is to keep it clean.
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