EPT"Suspicious Korean sponsors" tweets by Olimoley - Page 20
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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jodwin
Finland18 Posts
On February 09 2015 18:54 10bulgares wrote: Obviously, it is working, indeed but I see a difference with drug or sex trade, it is that in those cases you get what you're paying for. In the case of betting, you don't get fair chances to win. It can work in the beginning but it doesn't look very sustainable. The gangsters are putting their network at risk in the case of cheat betting, which they can avoid doing in the case of prostitution or drug. Also, if the betters are just after the thrill of betting, why don't they go to legal betting firms? There's competition with other much more popular things (betting on football or even on more popular e-sports competition) that do not have an equivalent in your analogy with sex and drug, I guess. But yeah, it is working somehow. Maybe I'm too far away from the betting world to realise how it's working. Also can you explain what tor networks are and how it helps? The betters can't go to legal betting firms because, in the case of Korea, there aren't any as gambling is illegal over there. If you're a gambling addict your only option is to go to the underground sites - hence comparing it to other illegal trades. As for Tor networks, they're techncially a web of proxies on the internet that allow you to be virtually untrackable. Hosting, for example, gambling sites or gambling related forums over Tor is much safer than doing it in the "normal" internet. Silk Road is the best known example of how Tor has been used for illegal trade, in this case drugs. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On February 09 2015 19:16 -Kyo- wrote: I have forgone the rest of the thread to reply to this but this makes me laugh so much. There is so much shit in every community, including NA, where people on the forums just have no idea. For example: + Show Spoiler + In NA there was recently a 'high tier' player, one who previously played in thebreakout invitational/was in premier league last year, that was disqualified from a different tournament less than a month ago for hacking. Funnily enough, almost no one knows and this person is probably still hacking because the only people who know anything about it follow pili's twitter after he laughed when others notified him who the smurf who got DQ was. The only reason I spoiler and don't name this person is because they're a complete douche and I've always thought they were. People continually gave this individual 'chances', incl tournament invites, when it was clear they were toxic to the community. If you want to find out who it was just go look through pilipili's tweets. This is just an example, but from what I hear there is tons of problems with hacking in Korea as well right now so if you start combining hacking, match throwing, and online cups things start to get -_-;; Really hope they get some clear convictions posted here soon~ So should we start a parallel drama-thread about this as well?  | ||
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lord_nibbler
Germany591 Posts
On February 09 2015 19:36 FFW_Rude wrote: If Blizzard is investigating during 6 month, it must be pretty big. I would think they have to contact authorities in every country involved and works with them. It would take time to coordonate between countries (if it's not only in Korea) and take down the thing. If it's revealed to the public, those guy could stop/hide and not been found. Or maybe Blizzard put this to silence but we can't really know. For exemple, sometimes police knows that : "this guy is doing bad things" but they wait to get enough proofs and finds the ring in the entirety rather than stop one guy who is little and can be replaced while the illagal stuff shifts around. 6 month isn't shockigly long if it's a big thinng. Like I said, catching the guy should not be a priority for Blizzard, protecting their game should. If you know there are people out there corrupting the very core of your scene, you do not let it go on for half a year just to 'investigate'! Maybe you can't take them to court, because you scared them away too soon. So what? At least you warned everybody, made sure people are aware of the threat. It's all you can ever do anyway... | ||
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WonnaPlay
Netherlands912 Posts
On February 09 2015 05:01 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I'm sure Aderall and other methamphetamines are already used regularily. My APM drops like 30-40 whenever I would take Ritalin | ||
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10bulgares
352 Posts
On February 09 2015 19:51 Cascade wrote: So should we start a parallel drama-thread about this as well? Except the tweet mentioned in the spoiler doesn't make sense if you look at the brackets of the mentioned tournament. There are chances this is just someone who rants and accuses lightly. He seems obsessed by hacking on his twitter feed. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On February 09 2015 20:03 WonnaPlay wrote: My APM drops like 30-40 whenever I would take Ritalin Then you're not taking the right one. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.sanapoint.de/grafiken/apm-creme.jpg)  | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On February 09 2015 20:04 10bulgares wrote: Except the tweet mentioned in the spoiler doesn't make sense if you look at the brackets of the mentioned tournament. There are chances this is just someone who rants and accuses lightly. He seems obsessed by hacking on his twitter feed. So no more drama threads?  Does that mean I have to watch or (god forbid) actually PLAY the game?? :o | ||
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Boundz(DarKo)
5311 Posts
TL has a really strong defense, but sometimes you have to let that scouting probe in. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On February 09 2015 20:34 Boundz(DarKo) wrote: While waiting for that article with substantial information... I feel the need to ask, just how open TL is these days (don't follow SC2 forums anymore) in terms of discussing illicit behavior? From posts/quotes in this thread, it seems that warnings and bans are still handed out easily if you make any kind of attempt at uncovering shit. TL has a really strong defense, but sometimes you have to let that scouting probe in. Afaik discussing illicit behavior = OK, but making baseless accusations/speculations is NOT OK. You don't "uncover shit" by randomly posting in a forum anyway. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On February 09 2015 20:34 Boundz(DarKo) wrote: While waiting for that article with substantial information... I feel the need to ask, just how open TL is these days (don't follow SC2 forums anymore) in terms of discussing illicit behavior? From posts/quotes in this thread, it seems that warnings and bans are still handed out easily if you make any kind of attempt at uncovering shit. TL has a really strong defense, but sometimes you have to let that scouting probe in. Do you have anything to confess? | ||
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Jarree
Finland1004 Posts
On February 09 2015 20:34 Boundz(DarKo) wrote: While waiting for that article with substantial information... I feel the need to ask, just how open TL is these days (don't follow SC2 forums anymore) in terms of discussing illicit behavior? From posts/quotes in this thread, it seems that warnings and bans are still handed out easily if you make any kind of attempt at uncovering shit. TL has a really strong defense, but sometimes you have to let that scouting probe in. I don't even understand how people think there is anything "open" related to TL. For example the game was completely broken in WOL and anyone who even hinted the balance was off, got warned/banned for balance-whining. Protecting the game (what ever that means) has always been more important than fixing issues. If people had posted their suspicions 6 months ago the entire thing would have started to unravel. It doesn't begin with 100% foolproof evidence, it begins by creating an environment where people are willing to come forward with their knowledge. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On February 09 2015 20:58 Jarree wrote: I don't even understand how people think there is anything "open" related to TL. For example the game was completely broken in WOL and anyone who even hinted the balance was off, got warned/banned for balance-whining. Protecting the game (what ever that means) has always been more important than fixing issues. If people had posted their suspicions 6 months ago the entire thing would have started to unravel. It doesn't begin with 100% foolproof evidence, it begins by creating an environment where people are willing to come forward with their knowledge. Yeah, TL is so protective towards balance talk when the balance is off that a huge article complaining about balance was published and featured some months ago... Ever noticed how the Balance Discussion Thread has been closed as well? Wow, such dictatorship. | ||
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
On February 09 2015 20:58 Jarree wrote: I don't even understand how people think there is anything "open" related to TL. For example the game was completely broken in WOL and anyone who even hinted the balance was off, got warned/banned for balance-whining. Protecting the game (what ever that means) has always been more important than fixing issues. If people had posted their suspicions 6 months ago the entire thing would have started to unravel. It doesn't begin with 100% foolproof evidence, it begins by creating an environment where people are willing to come forward with their knowledge. So you think hating on the game and spreading negative things about it "fix issues". TL isn't blizzard staff meetings, even if nothing here was moderated and we talked about all these "problems" just how do you think that would help actually "fixing issues". That the game was completely broken is your opinion. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On February 09 2015 20:02 lord_nibbler wrote: Like I said, catching the guy should not be a priority for Blizzard, protecting their game should. If you know there are people out there corrupting the very core of your scene, you do not let it go on for half a year just to 'investigate'! Maybe you can't take them to court, because you scared them away too soon. So what? At least you warned everybody, made sure people are aware of the threat. It's all you can ever do anyway... Well, if they are not caught, they are not scared. I would prefer police to take down a drug ring after a year than just a dealer after a day. On February 09 2015 21:31 lichter wrote: pretty sure TL is the reason half the balance patches even occurred ^_^;; Where's the hydraroach then ? | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
unfortunately blizzard did not share baller's amazing vision | ||
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geokilla
Canada8248 Posts
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On February 09 2015 21:41 geokilla wrote: So where's the evidence? Is SC2 always going to be about "coming soon?" It's been one day between OP and your post. That's not that much. | ||
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Jarree
Finland1004 Posts
On February 09 2015 21:02 OtherWorld wrote: Yeah, TL is so protective towards balance talk when the balance is off that a huge article complaining about balance was published and featured some months ago... Ever noticed how the Balance Discussion Thread has been closed as well? Wow, such dictatorship. Yeah that is funny, but I wrote during WOL, not 2 months ago. | ||
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