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On January 30 2015 11:50 Lexender wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2015 11:32 Darth Caedus wrote:On January 30 2015 11:22 29 fps wrote:On January 30 2015 09:28 HeyImFinn wrote:On January 30 2015 09:22 Cyro wrote:Terran
Raven
Point Defense Drone duration decreased from 180 seconds to 20 seconds LOL why didn't they just half the duration 1-3 years ago? I mean, leaving it this long then reducing it by a factor of 9 is pretty insane Honestly, why is nobody talking about this? I mean the swarm host change is huge (and neeeeds to be tweaked), but that's a massive nerf to PDD. 180 to 20... that is a huge change. Shouldn't they try a number in between? Maybe 60 or 90... Because in fights that matter all the charges of PDD are used in less than 10 seconds.... Why do they have to stick around for forever? PDDs don't move, I think 60 seconds should be ok, so they last the same as a nexus canon, but 20 seconds is too short for all the energy, if they are going to do something like that they reduce the energy cost and the total energy they have, its either an expensive spell that last long and can tank a lot of shots or a cheap spell that very short and can tank a few shots but not this retarded change that makes no sense.
Agreed.
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i don't like the pdd change... atleast give it a 50mana requirement... damn...
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Where's Widow mine NERF?!!!
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37085 Posts
Can we just remove swarm hosts from the game? :/
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blah, the only good thing is increasing the spawn locust cooldown. everything else is crazy lol.
On January 30 2015 08:20 Larkin wrote:
Somewhere, Snute is crying
why, swarmhosts and locusts were buffed, meanwhile swarm host defense is weakened. none of the swarm host changes will affect the top level players i don't think.
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I hope they didnt kill TvZ mech with this. Without tanks hitting locust, they are guaranteed to get a couple of tanks every wave.
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On January 30 2015 15:34 Seeker wrote:
Can we just remove swarm hosts from the game? :/
There wasn't a single day for last 2 yeasrs i hadn't been thinking about that.
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what about Widow Mine change?
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On January 30 2015 15:36 CycoDude wrote:blah, the only good thing is increasing the spawn locust cooldown. everything else is crazy lol. why, swarmhosts and locusts were buffed, meanwhile swarm host defense is weakened. none of the swarm host changes will affect the top level players i don't think.
Are you crazy? Zvp is largely swarmhost style
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In regard to the PDD:
Great change, really needed to be honest. The PDD is so ridiculous OP against missile based armies that 20 seconds is plenty, when the enemy attack you have an insta-win the fight button. Now however that insta-win only lasts 20 seconds instead which is very very reasonable.
In regards to the SH:
I still think they are waay too costly in gas to ever be worth it. Some posters are saying that 4-5 SH can be pretty cost efficient which I agree with but that is only when you only need to pay the costs of the units themselves but going down the tech path costs money too. The only two ways I think Sh will be viable is
1) either when going ling infestor and you get the tech for free anyway, going 4-5 SH for harass.
2) Or when going heavy roaches and then transitioning into a few SH to bolster to roach pushes and then harassing while transitioning behind it.
Going pure SH will totally suck, getting the tech out costs too much to be worth it and getting the upgrade will only happen in very very specific situations (or maps) because if its only worth building 4-5 SH then its probably not worth investing so much money into an upgrades just for the SH.
This basically kills the SH, which I don't mind that much since Ts mech is getting nerfed to compensate.
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On January 30 2015 15:34 Seeker wrote:
Can we just remove swarm hosts from the game? :/
May as well ask if we can remove Zerg from the game
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I feel some people don't really understand the impact of the PDD change, the raven is simply not going to be used at all EVER, it just became an overpriced detector, I don't really care about massing ravens but nerfing the raven so much is too much of a knee jerk reaction, specially considering that the raven is the only spellcaster that terran has that isn't almost exclusive to TvP.
The raven doesn't need a nerf it needs a redesing (altough not a big one)
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On January 30 2015 17:47 Lexender wrote:
I feel some people don't really understand the impact of the PDD change, the raven is simply not going to be used at all EVER, it just became an overpriced detector, I don't really care about massing ravens but nerfing the raven so much is too much of a knee jerk reaction, specially considering that the raven is the only spellcaster that terran has that isn't almost exclusive to TvP.
The raven doesn't need a nerf it needs a redesing (altough not a big one)
I'm also worried about the matchup with tempest, but autoturret and pdd take 4 fucking minutes atm which is far too long.
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On January 30 2015 15:34 Seeker wrote:
Can we just remove swarm hosts from the game? :/
Remove Protoss first and we have a deal!
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On January 30 2015 20:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2015 15:34 Seeker wrote:
Can we just remove swarm hosts from the game? :/ Remove Protoss first and we have a deal!
This is quite good idea. I enjoy watching SH vs SH more than PvP. 
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On January 30 2015 20:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2015 15:34 Seeker wrote:
Can we just remove swarm hosts from the game? :/ Remove Protoss first and we have a deal!
I'd advice you to remove a lot of your salt intake CUS YOUR SALTYYYY ^_^
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On January 30 2015 20:57 SatedSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +Locust duration increased from 15 seconds (+10 seconds with Enduring Locusts) to 30 seconds Ahahahaha. No. Just no. This is bollocks.
You read the rest of the changes?
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On January 30 2015 20:54 SC2Toastie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2015 20:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:On January 30 2015 15:34 Seeker wrote:
Can we just remove swarm hosts from the game? :/ Remove Protoss first and we have a deal! I'd advice you to remove a lot of your salt intake CUS YOUR SALTYYYY ^_^
Your comment makes zero sense.
On January 30 2015 20:57 SatedSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +Locust duration increased from 15 seconds (+10 seconds with Enduring Locusts) to 30 seconds Ahahahaha. No. Just no. This is bollocks.
Yeah, let's read one line and ignore the other 50.
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On January 30 2015 20:57 SatedSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +Locust duration increased from 15 seconds (+10 seconds with Enduring Locusts) to 30 seconds Ahahahaha. No. Just no. This is bollocks.
Someone here have a severe Selective Reading Syndrome
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