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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10132 Posts
December 19 2014 20:31 GMT
#21
On December 20 2014 05:22 Swisslink wrote:
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On December 20 2014 05:16 esdf wrote:
On December 20 2014 02:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:

Also, I'm more surprised Life 3-0'd than Dream winning, but that's just me...

Why? Flash is hardly relevant outside of Proleague.


Well, a 3:0 is still surprisingly onesided.

Surprising would had been that Scarlett won. Life 3-0 Flash is nothing to write home about.
QCD
Profile Joined September 2012
Suriname81 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-19 21:01:14
December 19 2014 20:58 GMT
#22
On December 20 2014 04:13 mikumegurine wrote:
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On December 20 2014 03:47 IAMPRO wrote:
I would highly recommend the Dream/Solar series. So much higher quality than the other two. Solar did not play badly at all, Dream was just so damn impressive.

On December 20 2014 02:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On December 20 2014 02:26 Enemony wrote:
On December 20 2014 02:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
"her single-handedly waving the non-Korean flag"
"the foreign hope"


I mean yeah..... but he was *looks side to side* -wispers- "still Asian" GASP


I know, it's just everyone forgets about the Chinese and Taiwanese foreigners sometimes... they're one of us damn it!

Whilst I don't want to sound exclusive, a Chinese player is a different kind of foreigner in my eyes. As mentioned, they don't spend much time at foreign tourneys but also they don't have the same interaction as Western foreigners and therefore I don't connect with them in the same way. This is not a criticism of Chinese pros at all, it's simply the result of language/geographical barriers. Still, they face the same difficulties of breaking into the Korean scene as other foreigners



hmm well what about lesser known or amateur Taiwan players or Australian or Japanese or South African, etc players that dont go to "Western" tournaments and dont interact with Westerners...would u bunch them up as in your words, a "different kind of foreigner" like the Chinese?

personally i dont think it matters if the player doesnt speak English or "Westerner" languages and doesnt go out to participate in "Westerner" tournaments; non-Koreans are foreigners, doesnt matter what language they speak or whether they can continually interact with "Westerner viewers" or not

Yeah, because people are too busy being politically correct and using words they don't mean to use. Most of everyone knows the white people are considered foreigners. Even at that large tourny the blizzard employee being interviewed had to tell the iem guy "uh yeah polt is a foreigner". People are not using the word foreigner as its meant to be used, because they don't want to say white/asian. But then it results in this stupid shit, using words wrongly, to save face.

That being said a foreigner to me is a foreigner, you know because they're a foreigner, making them a foreigner. You know?
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
December 19 2014 21:03 GMT
#23
I have one of the largest foreigner biases on TL (and proud), and in my mind, Foreigner means anyone whose flag on Liquipedia isn't the South Korean one.

Back to the games, the most consistent difference I saw among the 3 serieses was the aggressive nature of the Terrans that won, and the more passive 4M style from Flash.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
QCD
Profile Joined September 2012
Suriname81 Posts
December 19 2014 21:07 GMT
#24
On December 20 2014 06:03 Circumstance wrote:
I have one of the largest foreigner biases on TL (and proud), and in my mind, Foreigner means anyone whose flag on Liquipedia isn't the South Korean one.

Back to the games, the most consistent difference I saw among the 3 serieses was the aggressive nature of the Terrans that won, and the more passive 4M style from Flash.


I really wish I had to chance to watch these games, wanted to see Flash and Scarlett play. Will have to search for vods.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
December 19 2014 23:37 GMT
#25
DREEAAAAAAAAAAmmmmmmmmm
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
December 20 2014 01:03 GMT
#26
On December 20 2014 06:07 QCD wrote:
I really wish I had to chance to watch these games, wanted to see Flash and Scarlett play. Will have to search for vods.


http://sc2links.com/tournament.php?tournament=StarCraft II StarLeague S1 2015&tab=m
Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
December 20 2014 08:39 GMT
#27
Yessss!!! Dream finally showing something :D
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 21 2014 01:37 GMT
#28
Comon, China, Taiwan, Singapore, that's not foreigners lol
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Deathstar42
Profile Joined December 2011
United States8 Posts
December 21 2014 03:27 GMT
#29
Is there anywhere we can get vods?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 21 2014 03:30 GMT
#30
On December 21 2014 12:27 Deathstar42 wrote:
Is there anywhere we can get vods?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/119948-small-sc2-vod-thread?page=32#622
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SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5450 Posts
December 21 2014 03:36 GMT
#31
On December 21 2014 10:37 Noocta wrote:
Comon, China, Taiwan, Singapore, that's not foreigners lol

There are huge differences between all those countries and Korea. Especiall in regards to the Korean practice regimen!
klipik12
Profile Joined March 2012
United States241 Posts
December 23 2014 20:24 GMT
#32
What does S2SL stand for?
<(^_^)> || Axiom - CoL - mYi - Prime - ROOT - EG - Acer || WCS Teamleague pls ;-;
GreenMash
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
December 23 2014 20:32 GMT
#33
On December 24 2014 05:24 klipik12 wrote:
What does S2SL stand for?

Starcraft2 Starleauge
I love hellbats
Exitor45
Profile Joined August 2012
United States72 Posts
December 29 2014 20:29 GMT
#34
Would have been interesting to see Scarlett go a bit further...
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