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CS:GO Replacing SC2 as Dreamhack's Main Game - Page 2

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Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
December 15 2014 14:05 GMT
#21
On December 15 2014 22:59 looknohands119 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 22:56 SC2Toastie wrote:
Out with Ohlen, Nothing will change.

And in the end, PR strikes again....


As much as I would like to believe otherwise, this certainly seems to be the case.


A smart business decision shouldn't have anything to do with him being there or not, the numbers are overwhelmingly with CSGO and promoting that while it's on the rise and there is far more money to be made and created is a natural choice.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 15 2014 14:07 GMT
#22
On December 15 2014 22:56 SC2Toastie wrote:
Out with Ohlen, Nothing will change.

And in the end, PR strikes again....


As far as I know Ohlén had no executive role in deciding what games go where at Dreamhacks.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
December 15 2014 14:08 GMT
#23
On December 15 2014 23:02 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 22:56 SC2Toastie wrote:
Out with Ohlen, Nothing will change.

And in the end, PR strikes again....


Forgive me if I'm wrong, but wasn't one of the big disagreements between Ohlen and the other execs the roll of SC2 at DH?

Ohlen was supposed to be the public face of the company. I'm not sure if a public face decides anything
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Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
December 15 2014 14:10 GMT
#24
The views of CS:GO are MUCH higher then these of SC II at Dreamhack. A normal buisness decision.
As long as SC II is still played at the Hacks, I dont see so much problems with it. Dreamhack needs to make money to run.
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
December 15 2014 14:12 GMT
#25
apart from the fact that CS:GO is growing, sweden is like the heart of CS in Europe (they have a ton of good players), so it makes sense to have it as the main game
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spoonmaster
Profile Joined May 2012
United States347 Posts
December 15 2014 14:12 GMT
#26
Not sure what this really means at Dreamhack when the CS:GO stage was already bigger than the SC2 one?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 14:19:20
December 15 2014 14:13 GMT
#27
I just dived into CS:GO myself as a viewer. My strongest impression was that there's quite the cheating issue. Some players have been VAC banned (KQLY). Lots of accusations fly through twitter (eg. fnatic). Not sure if I really like the change. But as long as I get to watch some sc2 action, I'm okay.


So far, CS:GO has had limited exposure in DreamHack's world circuit, with the game having been left of out of a number of events that take place in several countries throughout the year.


Does that mean that potentially, StarCraft II will be excluded from smaller Dreamhack tournaments?

Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 15 2014 14:14 GMT
#28
I don't actually grasp what the difference will be here. The SC2 stage wasn't shabby, but the CS:GO stage at DH:Winter was enormous and fucking awesome. Are there any functional changes at all?
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ivancype
Profile Joined December 2012
Brazil485 Posts
December 15 2014 14:16 GMT
#29
It is not a unreasonable decision at all, CS:GO had around 7x more viewers than SC2 this last DH.

It is just kinda sad for SC2.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 15 2014 14:19 GMT
#30
On December 15 2014 23:16 ivancype wrote:
It is not a unreasonable decision at all, CS:GO had around 7x more viewers than SC2 this last DH.

It is just kinda sad for SC2.

Sums up my thoughts pretty well. Well be interesting to see if there's a hit to the prize pool.
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Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
December 15 2014 14:19 GMT
#31
Can't blame them, the numbers for CSGO is just way too big for this to not happen.
As long as sc2 is still carried, I'm fine with this.
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johnbongham
Profile Joined April 2014
451 Posts
December 15 2014 14:24 GMT
#32
On December 15 2014 23:14 Zealously wrote:
I don't actually grasp what the difference will be here. The SC2 stage wasn't shabby, but the CS:GO stage at DH:Winter was enormous and fucking awesome. Are there any functional changes at all?


The CSGO tournament at the last dreamhack was special in that Valve contributed heavily to the prize purse in order to make the tournament be considered a 'major'. CSGO tournaments at the other dreamhacks earlier in 2014 were pretty small and terribly produced.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 15 2014 14:25 GMT
#33
On December 15 2014 23:24 johnbongham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 23:14 Zealously wrote:
I don't actually grasp what the difference will be here. The SC2 stage wasn't shabby, but the CS:GO stage at DH:Winter was enormous and fucking awesome. Are there any functional changes at all?


The CSGO tournament at the last dreamhack was special in that Valve contributed heavily to the prize purse in order to make the tournament be considered a 'major'. CSGO tournaments at the other dreamhacks earlier in 2014 were pretty small and terribly produced.


Cool, I had no idea.
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
December 15 2014 14:28 GMT
#34
Sad news, especially when I see this and this
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johnbongham
Profile Joined April 2014
451 Posts
December 15 2014 14:28 GMT
#35
On December 15 2014 23:25 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 23:24 johnbongham wrote:
On December 15 2014 23:14 Zealously wrote:
I don't actually grasp what the difference will be here. The SC2 stage wasn't shabby, but the CS:GO stage at DH:Winter was enormous and fucking awesome. Are there any functional changes at all?


The CSGO tournament at the last dreamhack was special in that Valve contributed heavily to the prize purse in order to make the tournament be considered a 'major'. CSGO tournaments at the other dreamhacks earlier in 2014 were pretty small and terribly produced.


Cool, I had no idea.


Also, that prize money from valve is funded by CSGO players when they buy 'keys' to unlock weapon crates that they earn in-game. Then during the actual tournaments, players can buy 'stickers' of their favorite team logos that they can put on their weapons in-game and the sticker money goes directly to the teams as extra income. It is really exciting how valve has managed to monetize CSGO in a way that benefits the competitive scene and makes it sustainable without anyone losing their investment into the game.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
December 15 2014 14:29 GMT
#36
On December 15 2014 23:28 Yorkie wrote:
Sad news, especially when I see this and this
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi/status/544443612243951616

And that was going to be my first event I was going to
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Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1841 Posts
December 15 2014 14:29 GMT
#37
Lately the DH sc2 events have had a myriad of production issues and down time, imo costing the viewership dearly. Interesting that with all of the cheating rumors that cs go would be put into the spotlight and with more pressure put on the brand.
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
December 15 2014 14:31 GMT
#38
On December 15 2014 23:16 ivancype wrote:
It is not a unreasonable decision at all, CS:GO had around 7x more viewers than SC2 this last DH.

It is just kinda sad for SC2.

The CS tournament was a major tournament. Dreamhack felt insignificant being sandwiched between Blizzcon, Homestory Cup X and IEM San Jose.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
December 15 2014 14:35 GMT
#39
Only sad realization is that eSports viewer numbers are completely arbitrary. Games have never been this exciting and yet viewership numbers for SC2 are dropping.

Makes me think that mainstream eSports still is, and probably will always stay, just an extended arm of marketing for popular games.
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
December 15 2014 14:35 GMT
#40

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