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ivancype
Brazil485 Posts
On December 15 2014 23:31 ZAiNs wrote: The CS tournament was a major tournament. Dreamhack felt insignificant being sandwiched between Blizzcon, Homestory Cup X and IEM San Jose. http://www.esports.gg/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Day3Dreamhack20141.jpg Even if DH SC2 had Blizzcon like viewership it would be less than half of what CS;GO got | ||
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ejozl
Denmark3548 Posts
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On December 16 2014 00:22 ejozl wrote: I'm pretty sure that Blizzard is pulling for SC2 and HotS to be the esports. Hearthstone is their casual game and no matter how well it does as an esports they will still keep on designing it as a casual game. I'm betting that in the long run, Hearthstone will make more money than sc2. But that's just a wild guess on salty feelings.  | ||
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SigmaoctanusIV
United States3313 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On December 16 2014 00:30 SigmaoctanusIV wrote: CSGO has been blowing up largely because of CSGO lounge and the betting all around. It's sad to see but SC2 will be back with LoTV. Just like it came back to MLG... | ||
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Boundz(DarKo)
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On December 16 2014 00:18 Liquid`Ret wrote: they won't, they have hearthstone and will have heroes of the storm in the future Honestly feeling Blizzard would rather drop all the suppoirt for SC2 and focus on Hearthstone and Overwatch as their main esport titles because they feel a spot noone else use, but they're tied by Starcraft history. | ||
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TerranHwaiting
Korea (North)179 Posts
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On December 16 2014 00:35 Noocta wrote: Honestly feeling Blizzard would rather drop all the suppoirt for SC2 and focus on Hearthstone and Overwatch as their main esport titles because they feel a spot noone else use, but they're tied by Starcraft history. There isn't another RTS eSport that's doing well either. Also with their latest Hearthstone expansion focused on dialing UP the RNG (one of the biggest competitive complaints) it seems weird that they are trying to ramp up Hearthstone as an eSport. Also the Overwatch comment is so completely baseless it's funny. The game isn't even in alpha. | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On December 16 2014 00:24 boxerfred wrote: I'm betting that in the long run, Hearthstone will make more money than sc2. But that's just a wild guess on salty feelings. Long run? HS is probably more profitable already. Sales for Sc2 were ok, but not great, and Blizzard are running WCS with massive losses. It's a money sink which luckily is also a passion project for some of the big dogs. Sc2 was never going to make real money, it is too hard and asks too much of the players. As for DH, if you have a choice between 2 games for the main stage, where one of them pulls 6-7 times the viewers compared to the other one...it's about as easy of a business decision as you're ever likely to make. It has nothing to do with Robert being gone or ded gaem or any of that stuff. It's just business. Edit: Overwatch is going to kill WoW. Trust me. | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On December 16 2014 00:37 Squat wrote: Long run? HS is probably more profitable already. Sales for Sc2 were ok, but not great, and Blizzard are running WCS with massive losses. It's a money sink which luckily is also a passion project for some of the big dogs. Sc2 was never going to make real money, it is too hard and asks too much of the players. As for DH, if you a choice between 2 games for the main stage, where one of them pulls 6-7 times the viewers compared to the other one...it's about as easy of a business decision as you're ever likely to make. It has nothing to do with Robert being gone or ded gaem or any of that stuff. It's just business. Edit: Overwatch is going to kill WoW. Trust me. HOW IS OVERWATCH GOING TO KILL WOW?! they are different genres! WoW just had one of its most successful Expansion releases ever! This is totally baseless! I DONT TRUST YOU AGHAIFDAIOFNADOFDIFNADNFDAIFMA Everyone calm down! | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On December 16 2014 00:37 Squat wrote: Long run? HS is probably more profitable already. Sales for Sc2 were ok, but not great, and Blizzard are running WCS with massive losses. It's a money sink which luckily is also a passion project for some of the big dogs. Sc2 was never going to make real money, it is too hard and asks too much of the players. As for DH, if you a choice between 2 games for the main stage, where one of them pulls 6-7 times the viewers compared to the other one...it's about as easy of a business decision as you're ever likely to make. It has nothing to do with Robert being gone or ded gaem or any of that stuff. It's just business. Edit: Overwatch is going to kill WoW. Trust me. SC2 was the best selling RTS of all time, was it not? I wouldn't call that just okay. I could see Overwatch getting big if it has the right support. TF2 has a small but dedicated scene and they have basically 0 support by valve (except for special custom cosmetics, of course!). | ||
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
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Estancia
Korea (South)335 Posts
On December 16 2014 00:42 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: SC2 was the best selling RTS of all time, was it not? I wouldn't call that just okay. I could see Overwatch getting big if it has the right support. TF2 has a small but dedicated scene and they have basically 0 support by valve (except for special custom cosmetics, of course!). Lol are you referring to the terrible TF2 EOTL disaster Back to the topic, I think SC2 will be fine as long as it can stay in the dreamhack circuit. CS:GO is so big in europe right now, this was probably expected. | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On December 16 2014 00:42 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: SC2 was the best selling RTS of all time, was it not? I wouldn't call that just okay. I could see Overwatch getting big if it has the right support. TF2 has a small but dedicated scene and they have basically 0 support by valve (except for special custom cosmetics, of course!). Being the best selling RTS in 2011-2012 means about as much as being the best long distance swimmer in the Kalahari Desert. No one makes RTS games anymore, because they just don't move the needle like they used to. Also, Darkhorse, I promise, it's actually true this time. Just like all the other times, when it almost happened. Kind of. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10165 Posts
Sad, but totally understandable if you look at the numbers that CSGO is pulling. Starcraft has been on decline for two years already, and the fifth doesn't look like it's going to get any better until the expansion hits. Overwatch killing WoW, sounds hilariously wrong on so many levels. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8760 Posts
On December 16 2014 00:37 Squat wrote: Long run? HS is probably more profitable already. Sales for Sc2 were ok, but not great, and Blizzard are running WCS with massive losses. It's a money sink which luckily is also a passion project for some of the big dogs. Sc2 was never going to make real money, it is too hard and asks too much of the players. As for DH, if you a choice between 2 games for the main stage, where one of them pulls 6-7 times the viewers compared to the other one...it's about as easy of a business decision as you're ever likely to make. It has nothing to do with Robert being gone or ded gaem or any of that stuff. It's just business. Edit: Overwatch is going to kill WoW. Trust me. that's the kind of comment that seeks to destroy my faith in this community. I urge you to go to page 11 and look up the best selling PC game. thank you. http://www.theesa.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/ESA_EF_2014.pdf //edit: note that they differentiate between Video games and PC/Computer games. With video games including consoles and handhelds. | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On December 16 2014 00:47 Squat wrote: Being the best selling RTS in 2011-2012 means about as much as being the best long distance swimmer in the Kalahari Desert. No one makes RTS games anymore, because they just don't move the needle like they used to. Also, Darkhorse, I promise, it's actually true this time. Just like all the other times, when it almost happened. Kind of. Oh maybe I missed a joke Unless you're serious and you don't see how poorly Rift/SWTOR/GW2/everything else labeled a WoW killer is doing | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On December 16 2014 00:46 Estancia wrote: Lol are you referring to the terrible TF2 EOTL disaster Back to the topic, I think SC2 will be fine as long as it can stay in the dreamhack circuit. CS:GO is so big in europe right now, this was probably expected. I haven't been paying attention to TF2 lately, I keep hearing that EotL was bad and useless but haven't looked into it myself. I was talking about UGC and how the winners get a custom in game pin as a prize from valve instead of real money  | ||
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