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CS:GO Replacing SC2 as Dreamhack's Main Game - Page 7

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NiHiLuSsc2
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States50 Posts
December 15 2014 16:23 GMT
#121
Starcraft will slowly wither and die with this change
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 15 2014 16:24 GMT
#122
On December 16 2014 01:23 NiHiLuSsc2 wrote:
Starcraft will slowly wither and die with this change

That's being a bit dramatic, it's not like Sc2 was only surviving because of DH. Sc2 didn't die after MLG dropped it, did it? (i know i have no right to call someone else out on this but still)
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18040 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 16:25:05
December 15 2014 16:24 GMT
#123
On December 16 2014 01:02 Zealously wrote:
from what I hear, there was no designated main stage game in 2014. If I understand correctly (which I think I do), this is no bump down for SC2 rather than a bump up got the obviously most popular Dreamhack game


where are you "hearing this" ?

"a source inside DreamHack has told HLTV.org that CS:GO will replace Starcraft 2 as the main game for the 2015 event circuit, which means full production and main stage privileges in all tournaments."
http://www.hltv.org/news/13830-csgo-to-become-dhs-main-game
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Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
December 15 2014 16:25 GMT
#124
Cs:go had 400k+ viewers last Dreamhack, so it's quite obvious step. RTS as a genre is slowly dying and blizz fucked up SC2 every since broodlord-infestor and sealed the deal with photon overcharge + swarmhosts. Unfortunately LOTV is not going to fix the core issues affecting sc2's popularity compared to other games. It's only a matter of time when organizations drop sc2 altogether.
bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
December 15 2014 16:26 GMT
#125
On December 15 2014 22:56 Headnoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 22:50 OnSpeed wrote:
Out with quality. In with quantity :/
RTS is the true eSports!


Replace SC2 with BW and i'd agree with you.

Makes total sense when CS absolutely dominates all other numbers at dreamhack.


Or Starbow.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 16:35:50
December 15 2014 16:29 GMT
#126
On December 16 2014 01:24 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 01:02 Zealously wrote:
from what I hear, there was no designated main stage game in 2014. If I understand correctly (which I think I do), this is no bump down for SC2 rather than a bump up got the obviously most popular Dreamhack game


where are you "hearing this" ?

"a source inside DreamHack has told HLTV.org that CS:GO will replace Starcraft 2 as the main game for the 2015 event circuit, which means full production and main stage privileges in all tournaments."
http://www.hltv.org/news/13830-csgo-to-become-dhs-main-game


My statement is one half personal experience (I went to Dreamhack Winter 2013, Dreamhack Summer 2014 and Dreamhack Winter 2014) and one half explanation from a guy I know that works with Dreamhack. As he tells me, and as was clear during all of 2014, SC2 might have been the "main game" but if that were the case then only in name. LoL, Dota and CS all had bigger stages/tournaments at some point during the year, and there was nothing to indicate SC2 being given preferential treatment as would be proper for a "main game".

People are too quick to jump to conclusions.

Edit: to be clear, things might change. We just don't know how exactly that will happen yet, and assuming that Dreamhack are axing SC2 completely after only hearing this is stupid.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 16:41:03
December 15 2014 16:38 GMT
#127
That's a smart decision for DH and cool for CS I think. But overall not really a huge deal for sc2, I had no idea it was the main game and I'm sure we will still see awesome DH sc2 tournaments in 2015. One of my worries is, how I'm supposed to watch all the sc2 content we will have in 2015, so if that means 1 or 2 fewer sc2 DHs I would actually not complain. Makes the other events feel more special.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 16:39:51
December 15 2014 16:39 GMT
#128
On December 16 2014 01:25 Jarree wrote:
Cs:go had 400k+ viewers last Dreamhack, so it's quite obvious step. RTS as a genre is slowly dying and blizz fucked up SC2 every since broodlord-infestor and sealed the deal with photon overcharge + swarmhosts. Unfortunately LOTV is not going to fix the core issues affecting sc2's popularity compared to other games. It's only a matter of time when organizations drop sc2 altogether.


What are you doing in the SC2 general section then? This is basically a long way to say "#dedgaem".

Seriously guys, wtf is wrong with you. This is not the first event stepping down on SC2, and it won't be the last. And as soon as viewer numbers go up again, they will pick it back up.
Kazahk
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States385 Posts
December 15 2014 16:41 GMT
#129
I don't get why people are sad about it, as long as we have tourneys I will be happy. Just because TotalBiscuit's erect penis grew smaller doesn't mean it cant support SC2.
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HaRuHi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1220 Posts
December 15 2014 16:43 GMT
#130
I don't know, that is like, totally ok.
I liked Wings of Liberty in the early stages.
I was not excited about Hots and bought it way late.
... I am however excited about the pvz games I see coming from the Lotv custom Mod, I am actually tentatively optimistic that blizz might even produce a fun game deserving of it's die hard community that kept it alive for longer than any other game could have stayed while only rarely delivering truly exciting matches.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8772 Posts
December 15 2014 16:47 GMT
#131
On December 16 2014 01:41 Kazahk wrote:
I don't get why people are sad about it, as long as we have tourneys I will be happy. Just because TotalBiscuit's erect penis grew smaller doesn't mean it cant support SC2.


dude's beat cancer and one of his boys made Code S in the hardest qualifier in the history of GSL.

supporting sc2 is boring TB's penis. it's hungry for more. (take care Genna)
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Pembar
Profile Joined November 2011
297 Posts
December 15 2014 16:49 GMT
#132
Thank you for posting this. Good to keep up with esports news.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33713 Posts
December 15 2014 16:49 GMT
#133
the title of 'main game' doesn't really matter much to me

what will matter is when they announce the exact # of stops and total prize money for the 2015 circuit
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
December 15 2014 16:52 GMT
#134
We're so dead SpoTV made their own league and we get another season of PL

So sad TT
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Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands657 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 16:57:45
December 15 2014 16:54 GMT
#135
I find it weird that now the Korean scene is bigger than ever, people are so negative about SC2 not being the most important game at this LAN. Tournaments will come, tournaments will go, but RTS as a whole has never been bigger than today. BW never had this many big tournaments outside of Korea, or even in Korea right now, and WC3 was never as big as SC2 is right now. RTS hasn't actually shrunk, it's just that other games are developing faster. FPS and MOBA's have had more players compared to RTS ever since competitive games have been released in those genres, so it makes sense that more people would watch those as well. We have over 30 Premier Tournaments each year, so basically a tournament with great players every other week, and during all that Proleague with some of the best players around.

Having more people watch games in their free time can only be positive for SC2 in the end. More people will spend time on this as a regular activity, also attracting new viewers to SC2. When the CS: GO stream has a break, they might switch over to see what other games, like SC2 are all about, and some of them will really like it and start playing/watching themselves. CS: GO being the "main game" is fine, it shouldn't be about whether or not SC2 is bigger than LoL/Dota2/CS:GO/HS/other HotS, but that SC2 maintains or expands on the viewers and tournaments it has now.
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Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
December 15 2014 16:55 GMT
#136
On December 16 2014 01:39 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 01:25 Jarree wrote:
Cs:go had 400k+ viewers last Dreamhack, so it's quite obvious step. RTS as a genre is slowly dying and blizz fucked up SC2 every since broodlord-infestor and sealed the deal with photon overcharge + swarmhosts. Unfortunately LOTV is not going to fix the core issues affecting sc2's popularity compared to other games. It's only a matter of time when organizations drop sc2 altogether.


What are you doing in the SC2 general section then? This is basically a long way to say "#dedgaem".

Seriously guys, wtf is wrong with you. This is not the first event stepping down on SC2, and it won't be the last. And as soon as viewer numbers go up again, they will pick it back up.

Why are you angry at me? If you close your eyes and deny things it won't make them any better. I'm still here, but it's quite obvious lots of others aren't.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
December 15 2014 16:57 GMT
#137
On December 16 2014 01:52 Lorning wrote:
We're so dead SpoTV made their own league and we get another season of PL

So sad TT

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KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
December 15 2014 16:57 GMT
#138
On December 15 2014 22:57 [F_]aths wrote:
This is sad news.

Well, when LotV brings SC2 back to new heights, the audience should remember that Dreamhack is another LAN with no real Starcraft authority.

what the heck does this even mean lmao
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robopork
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States511 Posts
December 15 2014 16:59 GMT
#139
There will be bubbles, and those bubbles will pop, and then there'll be another bubble. Sc2 isn't going away. Things are looking bright for us in Korea, which, as much as I love dreamhack, excites me more than this dissapoints me. The fact that sc2 was still DH's main game, even if it was in title only, actually surprised me. And frankly, if another game has to take that title, out of the current contenders I'm glad it was csgo.
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
December 15 2014 17:00 GMT
#140
Kinda good to see CS getting back in shape. I really enjoyed CS into Warcraft at the old IEMs. FPS and RTS have always been a good combo if you wanted to have the maximum audience attraction.

Let us see what the DH people do at the end though, as they might have unleashed silly people that might do silly things after kicking out the old Boss. I am not to worried though.
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