• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:54
CEST 04:54
KST 11:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments2[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon10[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes170BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch2Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes SC4ALL: A North American StarCraft LAN Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Stellar Fest KSL Week 80 StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
Starcraft: Destruction expansion pack? ASL ro8 Upper Bracket HYPE VIDEO StarCraft - Stratospace. Very rare expansion pack StarCraft Stellar Forces had bad maps BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D SC4ALL $1,500 Open Bracket LAN BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch [ASL20] Ro16 Group C
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Borderlands 3 General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Big Programming Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Too Many LANs? Tournament Ov…
TrAiDoS
i'm really bored guys
Peanutsc
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1698 users

Great Games Episode One: Starcraft II - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
54 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Zerste
Profile Joined September 2010
United States112 Posts
November 30 2014 00:50 GMT
#21
I found it really interesting and fun to watch. My only gripe is I wish it lasted longer haha.
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
November 30 2014 01:04 GMT
#22
It was okay. There are better, there are worse.
England will fight to the last American
Kazahk
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States385 Posts
November 30 2014 01:43 GMT
#23
I almost cried when i saw HerO win DreamHack, I remember watching that epic ass tournament years ago... You can truly see how awestruck he was.
Rngesus blessed me with a tooth half, then shunned me with a spinach roll.
genericname92
Profile Joined October 2009
United States148 Posts
November 30 2014 02:37 GMT
#24
So around ~3:00 they give cameos to the old school brood war players, boxer, nada, yellow... wait that's not yellow, that's yellow[arnc].... oops?
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-30 02:52:06
November 30 2014 02:49 GMT
#25
The only think I have to complain.

Jaedong: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
vs
Flash: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

then...

HerO vs Puma: ???????????????????????

no Mvp? Nestea? MarineKing? or maybe... Stephano(for a europe focus)?

But of course, it is great. I hope to see more of this!
Vasacast always in my <3
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
November 30 2014 05:24 GMT
#26
On November 30 2014 05:48 sigm wrote:
A solid 20+ minutes of circlejerking, questionable choice for SC2 focus, an overly sappy "ending", no mention of people like Bisu, Savior, Boxer for SC or MC, Mvp, Nestea for SC2, and rather sparse interviews. For a first episode, I suppose it's excusable, as many TV pilot episodes also lack in quality when compared to regular episodes. But if this is supposed to turn into a noteworthy documentary series, then there's much work to be done.


i think you're confusing the aims of this content to the smash bros documentary.

remember this is the story of R A Z E R B O Y Z not SC2.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
sigm
Profile Joined December 2010
192 Posts
November 30 2014 07:13 GMT
#27
On November 30 2014 07:21 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
You are really tough to please if that's what you think after watching. This is one of the better pieces of content I have seen done about StarCraft and it didn't even need a kickstarter.

I'm not really that tough to please, as the things that I think are wrong with the SC episode are rather obvious, instead of being some arbitrary nitpicks. The whole episode just feels like someone had an idea to do another recap of the Flash/Jaedong rivalry and then tossed in whatever other bits of almost randomly chosen info in there to make it about SC in general, including the Hero focus and the whole 30 seconds of info about the game itself. I mean, no offense, but I think there are more worthwhile players for a documentary in the SC2 scene than Hero, and the obvious SC bias of the whole thing doesn't help either. I know that SC was the more important, influential, and popular of the two games in South Korea, which is apparently all that matters in the world of SC, but that doesn't mean that a documentary should skimp on SC2 as it did, as documentaries should be unbiased, objective, and thorough.

On November 30 2014 08:41 kuresuti wrote:
It's not even 30 minutes long. How are you proposing they should have done it?

For starters, they should've made it 60 minutes long, at least. This isn't a TV show, so I don't see a reason to limit the running time to 25 minutes. That way, they could've dedicated half an hour to each game, and that would've given them enough time to properly introduce and explain each game, talk about the history and current status, show some actual interviews, and do a proper coverage of the most important players. I mean, the next two episodes will be covering a single subject as well, but they're giving an episode each to a separate game. Why couldn't SC get the same treatment?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
November 30 2014 09:18 GMT
#28
holy moly I completely forgot about that Dreamhack 2011. Literally made me cry - I was such a HerO fanboy, but loss after loss made me feel worse and worse. It hurt to see him go down all the time. After IEM Cologne (I was there in the audience), I felt like an aera was over. Somehow I stopped cheering for him although he showed great games and rightfully won that really sick event. Thanks for reminding me. Great documentation.
TecaNina
Profile Joined December 2013
41 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-30 10:39:49
November 30 2014 10:39 GMT
#29
What is this StarCraft 2? Kappa

Well, however nice episode!

User was warned for this post
Naniwa, Parting, SoS, HomestoryCup fuck yeahhh <3
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 30 2014 11:37 GMT
#30
On November 30 2014 07:21 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
You are really tough to please if that's what you think after watching. This is one of the better pieces of content I have seen done about StarCraft and it didn't even need a kickstarter.

I think there's some rightful criticism to be had here. You're juxtaposing one of the greatest rivalries in all of SC:BW with Hero vs Puma. Now I love Hero vs Puma as a story, and I love Flash vs Jaedong as a story - but the juxtaposition felt really off. (I legitimately thought the second part was going to be about MC when they started talking about a BW dropout).

Then you have Yellow[arnc] getting confused with YellOw (how did that get through), BW timelines a little messed up (eg. Flash was the ultimate weapon long before he became God and the majority of JD/Flash would have been tyrant vs ultimate weapon, Flash won GSI before OSL whereas it's implied the reverse and so on). Aside from Artosis and the progamers, the people interviewed were a little questionable (I mean, what did they really add to the film other than a break from the narrator).

While a lot better than anything we've had before, there's definitely room for criticism here
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
November 30 2014 13:26 GMT
#31
the narrator is kind of boring, the timeline is not really clear to me for some events described in the documentary, but my biggest remark is not saying it was reach's poster on all of girls walls. that kind of sealed the 1/10 score from start for me. :D
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-30 13:41:34
November 30 2014 13:40 GMT
#32
Quality !! Nostalgia !! However, thats the wrong freaking yellow
PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
November 30 2014 15:09 GMT
#33
Nice video!
http://www.twitch.tv/pinokotsbeer
eeZe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States54 Posts
November 30 2014 16:28 GMT
#34
It's cool, it was for a "mainstream" audience not the TL elite... can't that be enough? jeez
Cool C
Profile Joined November 2011
United States69 Posts
November 30 2014 16:30 GMT
#35
This was a great documentary. It gets me so hyped to play after watching it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7KD6L23MUQ
PPN
Profile Joined August 2011
France248 Posts
November 30 2014 16:37 GMT
#36
I'd have to agree some parts feel very wrong and random. Lots of wrong/oddly placed information, very questionnable choice of players and people being interviewed, The HerO/PuMa rivalry is just nowhere near as important and relevant as the Flash/Jaedong one. Sponsorship-biaised focus is a bit too obvious to take this documentary seriously. It's not terrible but it's not really good either.
sigm
Profile Joined December 2010
192 Posts
November 30 2014 16:38 GMT
#37
On December 01 2014 01:28 eeZe wrote:
It's cool, it was for a "mainstream" audience not the TL elite... can't that be enough? jeez

That's exactly why it needed to be longer, better, and more interesting. I don't think that anyone who wasn't into SC will become so after watching this.
Clubfan
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Germany913 Posts
November 30 2014 16:52 GMT
#38
I hated the narrator's voice, the constant dubstep, the awful sound and also the low-quality video segments. I'm pretty sure OGN has better ones in their archives. I don't think HerO vs PuMa is a part of SC2 history I'd mention in a short documentary. Neither Mvp nor Nestea nor MC was even mentioned and those three were arguably the most dominating players in WoL. The whole documentary just didn't seem "round": It looked like it was building up to the KeSPA switch to SC2, but that plot line got completely erased in the second half. All in all, it didn't reach my expactations, especially because it was the guy who made the Smash doc.
LiquipediaLickyPiddy manager
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-30 17:33:30
November 30 2014 17:31 GMT
#39
Man, this really made me miss following Flash in Broodwar.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
November 30 2014 18:17 GMT
#40
It was alright. The Flash v Jaedong storyline was nice and well done, but the HerO/PuMa piece was very random. It was about 3 years ago that that happened. And while I love both te players, they definitely aren't defining players in SC2.

Seemed a little rushed on the sc2 side, and had footage used from other films and casts to buffer it. And a lot of jargon.

Was better than SOS though.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
21:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #16
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft296
RuFF_SC2 169
Nathanias 102
trigger 32
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 3619
Icarus 5
Dota 2
monkeys_forever503
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 466
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox624
Westballz10
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor112
Other Games
summit1g9389
shahzam1003
NeuroSwarm162
XaKoH 148
ViBE86
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick560
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH206
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 59
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra958
Upcoming Events
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
5h 7m
RSL Revival
7h 7m
Classic vs TBD
WardiTV Invitational
8h 7m
Online Event
13h 7m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 7h
Barracks vs Mini
Wardi Open
1d 8h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 13h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Maestros of the Game
6 days
Clem vs Reynor
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-18
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.