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Amazonic
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden239 Posts
November 07 2014 23:53 GMT
#841
I'm loving the fact that bases need less workers, fucking hate that you start out with 12. Interesting to see where this goes.
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Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
November 07 2014 23:54 GMT
#842
On November 08 2014 04:45 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 04:43 kusto wrote:
On November 08 2014 04:42 Charoisaur wrote:
Sry bu this sounds terrible. not buying lotv if this is true


Oh yes you will.

the unit changes could be ok.
but the economy changes sound like they will kill sc2.
seriously why change it? we had always 6 starting workers no reason to change it

in bw you had 4...but yes changing it in xpac doesn't sound right but makes for less build time and more action might bring more people back into playing sc2 and reward micro more than macro.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
November 07 2014 23:55 GMT
#843
I like how imba all new units look at first glance - reminds me of BW. I was hoping for free multiplayer client but I guess that can still happen further down the road
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-07 23:58:42
November 07 2014 23:55 GMT
#844
On November 08 2014 08:48 [PkF] Wire wrote:
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On November 08 2014 08:45 Musicus wrote:
On November 08 2014 08:39 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On November 08 2014 08:37 TheDwf wrote:
On November 08 2014 08:34 [PkF] Wire wrote:
- Overcharge doesn't hit air : no, no and no ! It's totally retarded ! Or remove medivac boost, remove muta regen and oracle speed.

Ah yes, I forgot about muta regen. It has to be toned down or removed, it belongs to the things that put too much constraints on the game.


Totally agree, and agree with a lot of your previous points too.

But who cares about balance right now?


Changes are not final, etc, but if something doesn't make sense, why not mention it ? Psione said they're reading feedback. Muta regen nerf is overdue since they had to make that bandaid fix to ZvZ.


Well if you played LotV a while and still feel like it needs to be fixed, you can give that kind of feedback then. But chances that at the point when the beta goes live, there will be a new anti air unit for Protoss, are just as high as that PO does hit air again. So I think it's pointless right now, but meh, just my opinion.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
iGX
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia414 Posts
November 07 2014 23:55 GMT
#845
Maybe I'm misreading this but can someone please explain to me the Nydus change? My understanding is that you simply cannot stop it until it's too late? Happy to be corrected. Thanks.
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
November 07 2014 23:56 GMT
#846
On November 08 2014 08:54 Darkthorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 04:45 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 08 2014 04:43 kusto wrote:
On November 08 2014 04:42 Charoisaur wrote:
Sry bu this sounds terrible. not buying lotv if this is true


Oh yes you will.

the unit changes could be ok.
but the economy changes sound like they will kill sc2.
seriously why change it? we had always 6 starting workers no reason to change it

and reward micro more than macro.


I would actually hate it. I like to think of SC as the macro game and of WC as the micro game. I think SC should stay much more macro focused, while of course rewarding great micro as much as possible.
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1612 Posts
November 07 2014 23:56 GMT
#847
On November 08 2014 08:55 iGX wrote:
Maybe I'm misreading this but can someone please explain to me the Nydus change? My understanding is that you simply cannot stop it until it's too late? Happy to be corrected. Thanks.


It just makes it so that workers don't kill them. When they finish constructing, you can still one shot it with a group of units.
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Stompr
Profile Joined March 2014
Sweden15 Posts
November 07 2014 23:57 GMT
#848
Too hyped. Hope this is fantastic like it looks
chill bro
Omegatemplar
Profile Joined November 2014
Japan4 Posts
November 07 2014 23:57 GMT
#849
Of course the game will be balanced and nothing is final yet. But toss need more attention from Blizzard. I think they are not giving The Power of Protoss to the game. So many changes that affect the game. Terran has much more tech than Protoss or Zerg at multiplayer. And at the history toss get thousands of years ahead of Terran in tech. Please, Blizzard, show us the True Power of Protoss.
Xorphene
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom492 Posts
November 07 2014 23:57 GMT
#850
God i'm excited.

It's time to take the rule book, rip it into tiny pieces then land a nuke on the playing field to truly level the international playing field like never before. A faster, more action based style of game, where strategy and micro rather than deathball armies or early rushes decide games.

Thumbs up!
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-08 00:00:25
November 07 2014 23:58 GMT
#851
On November 08 2014 08:55 iGX wrote:
Maybe I'm misreading this but can someone please explain to me the Nydus change? My understanding is that you simply cannot stop it until it's too late? Happy to be corrected. Thanks.


You can not stop it until it's overground and starts unloading. I can put 5 nydus directly beneath your army if I have vision and you can not stop them whil they unburrow, even if you see it and have detectors. It's invincible until it's ready.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2898 Posts
November 08 2014 00:00 GMT
#852
Terrible economy changes but whatever. I'm happy to see the lurker back and the nydus change. Protoss looks like they're gunna get steam rolled for a while lol.
PineapplePizza
Profile Joined June 2010
United States749 Posts
November 08 2014 00:00 GMT
#853
On November 08 2014 08:55 iGX wrote:
Maybe I'm misreading this but can someone please explain to me the Nydus change? My understanding is that you simply cannot stop it until it's too late? Happy to be corrected. Thanks.


It means that, in the early / mid game, units are guaranteed to come out of the nydus worm, and you won't simply be able to bop it with your workers while it's building. You must commit units to defend the worm.

You'll still be able to kill it relatively quickly, although 5 or so roaches might squeeze out before it goes.
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alpenrahm
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany628 Posts
November 08 2014 00:02 GMT
#854
On November 08 2014 08:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 08:54 Darkthorn wrote:
On November 08 2014 04:45 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 08 2014 04:43 kusto wrote:
On November 08 2014 04:42 Charoisaur wrote:
Sry bu this sounds terrible. not buying lotv if this is true


Oh yes you will.

the unit changes could be ok.
but the economy changes sound like they will kill sc2.
seriously why change it? we had always 6 starting workers no reason to change it

and reward micro more than macro.


I would actually hate it. I like to think of SC as the macro game and of WC as the micro game. I think SC should stay much more macro focused, while of course rewarding great micro as much as possible.


the reduction from 16 down to 12 only means that your production rate is cut down to 75%. You will still be making much more units then in Warcraft, its not like they are going to introduce upkeep. In my opinion this is a slick move to shift the overall focus of the game.
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
November 08 2014 00:02 GMT
#855
On November 08 2014 08:52 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 08:50 lpunatic wrote:
Ragaver, roach, hydra - zerg seems to have a lot of units that do something basically similar with its own particular gimmik. Any room to combine a couple of units here?

Of course. Some genius had the idea as early as 2010:

[image loading]


Damn, that looks like a total baller unit!
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
November 08 2014 00:03 GMT
#856
I have a new build.. put the ball in prisms in energy form then drop it on the workers! There I figured it out before the pros.
AKMU / IU
sushiman
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden2691 Posts
November 08 2014 00:03 GMT
#857
So is the 12 worker thing confirmed, or is it just something they threw in to make games start faster on Blizzcon? Because that change sounds absolutely terrible.

Terran and Zerg got some nice new toys and some downright ridiculous boosts, Protoss got another worker harass unit and a combination of buffs and nerfs... I do hope they have something else in store for toss, because it's terribly unexciting as is.
1000 at least.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
November 08 2014 00:05 GMT
#858
On November 08 2014 09:02 alpenrahm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 08:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On November 08 2014 08:54 Darkthorn wrote:
On November 08 2014 04:45 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 08 2014 04:43 kusto wrote:
On November 08 2014 04:42 Charoisaur wrote:
Sry bu this sounds terrible. not buying lotv if this is true


Oh yes you will.

the unit changes could be ok.
but the economy changes sound like they will kill sc2.
seriously why change it? we had always 6 starting workers no reason to change it

and reward micro more than macro.


I would actually hate it. I like to think of SC as the macro game and of WC as the micro game. I think SC should stay much more macro focused, while of course rewarding great micro as much as possible.


the reduction from 16 down to 12 only means that your production rate is cut down to 75%. You will still be making much more units then in Warcraft, its not like they are going to introduce upkeep. In my opinion this is a slick move to shift the overall focus of the game.


Yeah but that's what I mean, I hope macro remains the focus of the game rather than micro.
mostevil
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom611 Posts
November 08 2014 00:06 GMT
#859
SC2 needs something this radical. I hope they find a way to make all this crazy stuff work.
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VArsovskiSC
Profile Joined July 2010
Macedonia563 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-08 00:37:31
November 08 2014 00:08 GMT
#860
MY GOD - Every race got a freakin counter to EVERYTHING there..

I mean - Zerg is gonna be EVERYWHERE.. So Protoss is in a bit of trouble (if not a bit more) I guess

Regardless - Abathur must be proud of these changes :D
Another world, another place, another universe, won the race.. :) ;) :P
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