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johnbongham
Profile Joined April 2014
451 Posts
October 01 2014 13:41 GMT
#21
On October 01 2014 22:39 iMOOrtal wrote:
How anyone can look at Winter's 451,074 V*H and think hes not V*botting? That's nearly 4x more than the closest competitors (who have built their fanbase(s) since the dawn of sc2 time). Not to mention the EPIC slowness of his chat considering there are 4x more people diving in and out of his channel. What kind of person spam joins channels without at least spamming the chat? Robots, that's who.


Yeah I don't understand how this guy gets so many 'viewers'.
andexls
Profile Joined December 2012
Brazil5 Posts
October 01 2014 13:43 GMT
#22
MC's stream is pure garbage, it's not even worth being mentioned.

He only plays Starcraft II 30% of the time. In the rest he is AFK, probably eating.
Of this 30%, only one third of the time he is playing in Ladder. In the rest he is playing boring custom games.

In other words, we can only watch him laddering on 10% of the time he streams.
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
October 01 2014 13:43 GMT
#23
I dont get how there are still people defending him. Open that stream, try to find the 2k human viewers.
He is between Parting and Stephano in terms of average viewers, how is that not telling the story.

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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 01 2014 13:44 GMT
#24
If you don't have any sources more credible than "his chat is quiet", stop making accusations and bashing Winter.
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SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
October 01 2014 13:44 GMT
#25
Give me a reason to watch him and not a good progamer, please
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graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
October 01 2014 13:49 GMT
#26
People say the learn something on his stream... he explains all he does while he bashes the platin guys in his bronze to masters smurf adventures.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
October 01 2014 13:53 GMT
#27
Jeez guys, stop bashing winter mindlessly. I'm 90% sure none of you actually have any "evidence" that hasn't been stated a million times.

On October 01 2014 22:44 SuperHofmann wrote:
Give me a reason to watch him and not a good progamer, please

You don't need to because he's not a good progamer. Some people find him entertaining.
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Adept
Profile Joined December 2009
United States472 Posts
October 01 2014 13:54 GMT
#28
On October 01 2014 22:44 SuperHofmann wrote:
Give me a reason to watch him and not a good progamer, please

Unlike most pro streams, he actually interacts with his chat almost constantly, and keeps his stream delay as low as possible for just that. Sure, he's not someone you want to watch if you're looking for the best gameplay, but most viewers really aren't! They're just looking for something fun to watch, and the streamer interacting directly with the chat helps out immensely with that.
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ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
October 01 2014 14:07 GMT
#29
anyone of 3000 watching winter here? can smb say why you choose him over i.e. jd?
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badboybC
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany53 Posts
October 01 2014 14:09 GMT
#30
On October 01 2014 22:44 SuperHofmann wrote:
Give me a reason to watch him and not a good progamer, please


He is entertaining. I mean, he is not a pro, but he interacts with his users and he plays for fun.
I dont watch his stream that often, but when i tune in its fun.
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killerrj8
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany9 Posts
October 01 2014 14:11 GMT
#31
On October 01 2014 23:07 ne4aJIb wrote:
anyone of 3000 watching winter here? can smb say why you choose him over i.e. jd?


Yes. compared to JaeDong and the like he actually TALKS with his viewers.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 01 2014 14:26 GMT
#32
ah yeah twas a good month!
rpddropshot
Profile Joined March 2011
United States82 Posts
October 01 2014 14:27 GMT
#33
I watch winter (and am not 12, nor retarded imo). After playing terran for 2.5 years at a low plat level at best, I switched to zerg and beat a top plat protoss after watching a few of his streams. He gave me the information and confidence to start playing as all races, and made the game more enjoyable for me. This is why I watch. Not to mention he's a masters player as all races and certainly high masters as zerg, likely better than most people complaining. As for his viewer #'s, he seems to get way more donations than other people I watch such as minigun, not a hard fact, but a decent sign that they are real.
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SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
October 01 2014 14:28 GMT
#34
My excuses to Winter for the way I phrased that post, obviously he has the dedication.
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SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
October 01 2014 14:29 GMT
#35
HOLY MOTHER OF GOD SOULKEY IS STREAMING 0.0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Next nr 1 ?
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Chylvain
Profile Joined July 2012
France43 Posts
October 01 2014 14:30 GMT
#36
When I watch a football (soccer for US) I wanna watch the best teams, Bayern vs Barca, Madrid vs Paris, etc...
When I watch a stream it's the same logic, I wanna see pro gamers because they have almost the perfect style of how to play this game.

I just don't understand when I see 1500 viewers of the god JD vs 3000 viewers of random master player.
"No GG, No Skill", that's why I never say "gg".
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
October 01 2014 14:32 GMT
#37
On October 01 2014 23:30 Chylvain wrote:
When I watch a football (soccer for US) I wanna watch the best teams, Bayern vs Barca, Madrid vs Paris, etc...
When I watch a stream it's the same logic, I wanna see pro gamers because they have almost the perfect style of how to play this game.

I just don't understand when I see 1500 viewers of the god JD vs 3000 viewers of random master player.

Gotta keep in mind there's also a ton of casuals. While we at TL might think 100% of the SC2 community is tryhard super dedicated and spends more time microing 2 workers in a patch than playing arcade or going for the infamous 6 pool triple queen attack.
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rpddropshot
Profile Joined March 2011
United States82 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-01 14:33:46
October 01 2014 14:32 GMT
#38
When I watch football (US, not soccer), I watch the Detroit Lions. So I guess I'm used to watching lower quality play.
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EddyBee
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands46 Posts
October 01 2014 14:42 GMT
#39
Goooo Grubby and Stephano!

Some people watch to learn, others for entertainment. A bad player can still be highly entertaining...

Why does anyone care if one player that is not a pro has so many viewers? Does it really hurt anyone that there are more ppl watching 'random' SC2 streams? I don't really think so.

Blind accusations (without evidence that is) will hurt the SC2 (streaming) community. Advertisers don't like that stuff. And that is bad for everyone.
“We are not retreating. We are advancing in another direction.” Douglas MacArthur
wari
Profile Joined July 2010
1 Post
October 01 2014 14:55 GMT
#40
after reading the top 3 streamernames I thought: winter doesnt deserve to be up there.

thats when you know something is wrong, cause its simply a list of who has the best numbers, but we all know winters numbers are not accurate. Im not saying its his fault but cmon... he should be able to do something about it, contact twitch to help him etc.
The reason I dont like him is cause I think this guy doesnt want the viewbots removed. Remember, this is the guy who posted "Im winter the new sc2 nr. 1 streamer" on sc2 subreddit.

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