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desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
October 03 2014 03:15 GMT
#121
On October 03 2014 03:56 Chill wrote:
This thread is always super interesting to me - thanks for putting it together.

back from the grave hows life chill?
I know Naniwa told you to get out but please come back :D
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
orvinreyes
Profile Joined June 2007
577 Posts
October 03 2014 04:52 GMT
#122
everybody loves winter
http://youtu.be/LfmrHTdXgK4
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 03 2014 06:07 GMT
#123
On October 03 2014 11:59 JP Dayne wrote:
why not just ask twitch about them bots? they can identify and dissolve any doubt about these numbers, can't they?

They did and concluded that there was nothing particularly shady about Winter's numbers. Several people with actual knowledge of streaming have agreed to that as well.
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Nothera
Profile Joined March 2013
Czech Republic14 Posts
October 03 2014 06:32 GMT
#124
I can confirm that this Winter kid is supicious. Everyone doubts his activities since spring this year when he was getting 3000 /viewers/bots as a diamond level player.

Today I was in his stream, again 1700 people watching, the same 20 people actually chatting.
And those 20 were pretty angry when I mention something about botting and banned me.

If I remember that Desrow who worked his ass off with streaming, creating content, teaching players how to play, even playing on tournaments, WCS etc. Now he has audience that Winter has except he actually worked for it and it took him nearly 3 years to get there. Winter just get this audiance from day to day.

1,7k has usually Khaldor in this time of day when he's casting some game from Korea.


And the recent TOP streamers list from TL is embarrasing aswell. How can Winter beat players like Stephano who used to have 15k viewers or basically anyone. Grubby, Parting, DeMuslim are more famous and entertaining than he will ever will be.

I say: Let's boycott his attendence at homestory cup!

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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-03 06:59:52
October 03 2014 06:59 GMT
#125
Thanks Conti. As for Winter, I don't see how him having many viewers hurts anyone.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
October 03 2014 07:11 GMT
#126
There's no point in bitching about winter anymore.
He's too visible and too big now; even if he was or is viewbotting he has enough real viewers to have plausible deniability.
Winter will be a host for a SC2 Tournament. Hate him or think he's doesn't deserve anything, shit don't matter.

Too late for any of that.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Mistakes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1102 Posts
October 03 2014 19:34 GMT
#127
We (people) can always and will always voice their opinions. Especially if they don't like something.
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
October 03 2014 21:22 GMT
#128
How profound
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 03 2014 21:30 GMT
#129
Thank you for this as always!
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tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
October 03 2014 22:20 GMT
#130
On October 01 2014 22:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2014 22:23 SuperHofmann wrote:
On October 01 2014 22:19 Chylvain wrote:
I respect the passion of Winter for this game, but I can't understand how people can watch this stream and like it...

Yesterday I wrote "Rise the Kappa guys!" in thr chat, 3k viwers, only 3 or 4 answered. Meh, usually with 100 viewers there's more activity in the chat...

Maybe his viewers aren't retarded?

LOL
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scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
dbarreda
Profile Joined July 2012
Mexico4 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-04 03:45:41
October 04 2014 03:45 GMT
#131
On October 01 2014 23:55 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2014 23:30 Chylvain wrote:
I personally think that's quite unfortunate for SC2, since it is a game that requires a ton of concentration and skill at the highest level, and quite often, as a player, you just can't play and interact at the same time. So you can either play not quite as good and interact (thus losing the unique feature of being one of the best), or not interact (thus losing the interest of your viewers). Damned if you do, damned if you don't.


I agree with this, although I hardly have viewers when I tried to talk and interact with the people I had about 12 viewers than the usual but lost all games because I couldn't do both things, when I just play I have about 3 or less.



lopido
Profile Joined December 2013
Canada245 Posts
October 04 2014 21:14 GMT
#132
i am pretty sur guys who watch winter are exactly the same persons that watch dota and Lol.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 04 2014 21:19 GMT
#133
On October 05 2014 06:14 lopido wrote:
i am pretty sur guys who watch winter are exactly the same persons that watch dota and Lol.

That has to be the worst diss i have ever seen tbh
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
October 04 2014 21:51 GMT
#134
the graph of overall viewers is what i look at, the names change but the viewer numbers are what matter overall. i think legacy of the void will bump the numbers back up, when it comes out.
Unreflecting
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada16 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 00:38:44
October 05 2014 00:21 GMT
#135
It's never a good idea to argue over the internet, especially against haters, but here goes...

Winter does a great job interacting with the stream and he explains a lot. Spelling out the reasons that motivate his actions and going into the details of scouting the way he does is exactly what the stream wants apparently. Keep in mind his viewers, or 'viewers' as some of you imply with the subtlety of a chainsaw-wielding surgeon, are not good enough to learn from silent streams like Stephano's or Parting's.

Just saying, good job. I watch that stream.

EDIT: What is so unbelievable about rising stars? Instant fame is older than instant coffee.

EDIT2: Maybe his playing random attracts more viewers also. Most streamers play only one race, thus appealing to less players. Watching 9 match-ups instead of 3.
Live and let live
jake1138
Profile Joined September 2011
United States82 Posts
October 05 2014 03:24 GMT
#136
I watch Winter. Why? Because he's a decent player, has passion for the game, and narrates his game play. Plus he typically plays random so you get to potentially see different gameplay from match to match. So stop hating and go watch whomever you like better.
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 13:37:52
October 05 2014 13:37 GMT
#137
Since you guys were making such a big fuss about Winter in the Homestory Cup announcement thread, in this thread and Winter bashing on the front page of the sc2 subreddit, you've generated enough curiosity for me to tune in and see what the hate is all about.

+1 VIEWER AND ITS ALL YOUR FAULT!
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 14:01:54
October 05 2014 14:01 GMT
#138
On October 05 2014 22:37 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
Since you guys were making such a big fuss about Winter in the Homestory Cup announcement thread, in this thread and Winter bashing on the front page of the sc2 subreddit, you've generated enough curiosity for me to tune in and see what the hate is all about.

+1 VIEWER AND ITS ALL YOUR FAULT!


Haha I did the same thing this morning. And the guy is streaming since like 10am it's 4pm and he is still live
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C4reful
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany26 Posts
October 05 2014 15:26 GMT
#139
i think i watched 100+ hours of winter alrdy, typed 2 lines in chat, 1 question that got answered immediately, and 1 "tx for the answer afterwards"

i watch winter cos he constantly talks while playing, something a pro would never do when training seriously
i asked him if his apm go down when he talks that much and he said he has about 30-40 apm less when talking
so he prefers good stream interaction over flawless play, which is xactly why i watch it

if i want a progame, i can choose the replay that suits me best and i can choose what music i listen meanwhile...
most progamer-streams are just like watching a random ladder-replay with music i dont like

there are exeptions (incontrol, grubby) but whenever i wanna watch....winter is online, the exeptions rarely are

also if those viewernumbers are all bots these must be rich bots for all the donations they give

and suggesting to boykott HSC:X cos you dont like winter should warrant a permaban imho, thats gotta beat CAPS, bad manners and childish hate


Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 05 2014 15:34 GMT
#140
On October 06 2014 00:26 C4reful wrote:
and suggesting to boykott HSC:X cos you dont like winter should warrant a permaban imho, thats gotta beat CAPS, bad manners and childish hate


See, the Winter situation is funny. On one side we have people who absolutely despise him and his success and wish nothing but fire and brimstone upon him. On the other side we have people who think insulting Winter or suggesting a boycott (while absurd, hardly bannable) should be moderated more harshly than anyone else.
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