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desRow
Canada2654 Posts
On October 03 2014 03:56 Chill wrote: This thread is always super interesting to me - thanks for putting it together. back from the grave hows life chill? I know Naniwa told you to get out but please come back :D | ||
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orvinreyes
577 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On October 03 2014 11:59 JP Dayne wrote: why not just ask twitch about them bots? they can identify and dissolve any doubt about these numbers, can't they? They did and concluded that there was nothing particularly shady about Winter's numbers. Several people with actual knowledge of streaming have agreed to that as well. | ||
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Nothera
Czech Republic14 Posts
Today I was in his stream, again 1700 people watching, the same 20 people actually chatting. And those 20 were pretty angry when I mention something about botting and banned me. If I remember that Desrow who worked his ass off with streaming, creating content, teaching players how to play, even playing on tournaments, WCS etc. Now he has audience that Winter has except he actually worked for it and it took him nearly 3 years to get there. Winter just get this audiance from day to day. 1,7k has usually Khaldor in this time of day when he's casting some game from Korea. And the recent TOP streamers list from TL is embarrasing aswell. How can Winter beat players like Stephano who used to have 15k viewers or basically anyone. Grubby, Parting, DeMuslim are more famous and entertaining than he will ever will be. I say: Let's boycott his attendence at homestory cup! User was warned for this post | ||
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HolydaKing
21253 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
He's too visible and too big now; even if he was or is viewbotting he has enough real viewers to have plausible deniability. Winter will be a host for a SC2 Tournament. Hate him or think he's doesn't deserve anything, shit don't matter. Too late for any of that. | ||
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Mistakes
United States1102 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
LOL Sick burn | ||
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dbarreda
Mexico4 Posts
On October 01 2014 23:55 Conti wrote: I agree with this, although I hardly have viewers when I tried to talk and interact with the people I had about 12 viewers than the usual but lost all games because I couldn't do both things, when I just play I have about 3 or less. | ||
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lopido
Canada245 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On October 05 2014 06:14 lopido wrote: i am pretty sur guys who watch winter are exactly the same persons that watch dota and Lol. That has to be the worst diss i have ever seen tbh | ||
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jax1492
United States1632 Posts
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Unreflecting
Canada16 Posts
Winter does a great job interacting with the stream and he explains a lot. Spelling out the reasons that motivate his actions and going into the details of scouting the way he does is exactly what the stream wants apparently. Keep in mind his viewers, or 'viewers' as some of you imply with the subtlety of a chainsaw-wielding surgeon, are not good enough to learn from silent streams like Stephano's or Parting's. Just saying, good job. I watch that stream. EDIT: What is so unbelievable about rising stars? Instant fame is older than instant coffee. EDIT2: Maybe his playing random attracts more viewers also. Most streamers play only one race, thus appealing to less players. Watching 9 match-ups instead of 3. | ||
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jake1138
United States82 Posts
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SpikeStarcraft
Germany2095 Posts
+1 VIEWER AND ITS ALL YOUR FAULT! | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On October 05 2014 22:37 SpikeStarcraft wrote: Since you guys were making such a big fuss about Winter in the Homestory Cup announcement thread, in this thread and Winter bashing on the front page of the sc2 subreddit, you've generated enough curiosity for me to tune in and see what the hate is all about. +1 VIEWER AND ITS ALL YOUR FAULT! Haha  I did the same thing this morning. And the guy is streaming since like 10am it's 4pm and he is still live | ||
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C4reful
Germany26 Posts
i watch winter cos he constantly talks while playing, something a pro would never do when training seriously i asked him if his apm go down when he talks that much and he said he has about 30-40 apm less when talking so he prefers good stream interaction over flawless play, which is xactly why i watch it if i want a progame, i can choose the replay that suits me best and i can choose what music i listen meanwhile... most progamer-streams are just like watching a random ladder-replay with music i dont like there are exeptions (incontrol, grubby) but whenever i wanna watch....winter is online, the exeptions rarely are also if those viewernumbers are all bots these must be rich bots for all the donations they give and suggesting to boykott HSC:X cos you dont like winter should warrant a permaban imho, thats gotta beat CAPS, bad manners and childish hate | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On October 06 2014 00:26 C4reful wrote: and suggesting to boykott HSC:X cos you dont like winter should warrant a permaban imho, thats gotta beat CAPS, bad manners and childish hate See, the Winter situation is funny. On one side we have people who absolutely despise him and his success and wish nothing but fire and brimstone upon him. On the other side we have people who think insulting Winter or suggesting a boycott (while absurd, hardly bannable) should be moderated more harshly than anyone else. | ||
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