oGsTOP joins Invasion eSport

On September 25 2014 21:59 Invasion-eSport wrote:
And it is not over in one week a surprise is coming...

On September 25 2014 22:18 AWalker9 wrote:
Anyone else having LYGF flashbacks? I really want to be wrong though.

On September 25 2014 22:08 Invasion-eSport wrote:
We are a new pro team, we are based in France. We started our recruitment in France by Quent and Nanaki former img players. Then we had our first international recruits were from Switzerland IMComingHome and Noblesse from korea to extend our team outside of the country. Once this was done and we had good feedback we started recently to recruits high level players from Korea with TAils and TOP. We hope that with those players we will reach a competitive level in major tournaments upcoming.
(little teasing in 5 days a surprise is coming follow us )

On September 25 2014 22:08 Invasion-eSport wrote:
We are a new pro team, we are based in France. We started our recruitment in France by Quent and Nanaki former img players. Then we had our first international recruits were from Switzerland IMComingHome and Noblesse from korea to extend our team outside of the country. Once this was done and we had good feedback we started recently to recruits high level players from Korea with TAils and TOP. We hope that with those players we will reach a competitive level in major tournaments upcoming.
(little teasing in 5 days a surprise is coming follow us )

On September 26 2014 00:56 Circumstance wrote:


He never actually stopped streaming consistently.

I checked out Invasion's website when Tails joined, and speaking personally, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt until I have an actual reason not to. And if it means TOP plays in more events, then good for all of us!

On September 26 2014 01:27 boxerfred wrote:

Maybe revise that post and add it to the op? Clears some things up, but not too many. "family funded for tax reasons" - can you explain that a bit further?

On September 26 2014 01:22 Invasion-eSport wrote:
As we said earlier we are a brand new team on the pro scene, as we can see there is a lot of question about our funding which we find it interesting people are more preoccupied by our funding than our project in the esport. So due to the high demand i'm going to answer (if there is more questions we will be happy to talk about it) we are currently and for the past 4 months funded by a family office. You are going to ask us what is their interest in investing in esport, there is first of all the taxes reason and there is also the fact that they found compatible one of the brand they are managing with esport.
The team is created in 2 division one is the community made to have fun to meet nice people, the second part is the pro section where only pros are recruited.
After long negotiations, we have reached an agreement to go to the next level and got the funds to be able to hire high quality players. We are also in talking to be able to make them come in Europe.
Our structure is based as an organisation with 1 president and 5 board members. Those people take all the decisions concerning the pro roaster, recruitment, budget and sponsors.
We are now 12 people working for this organisation (7 players and 5 staffs). The board and the staff is working for now 4 months (holidays were there so during summer not much work was done). Our designers are working on the logo, the new website, clothes, while others are taking care of the players (looking for their needs, tournaments, booking flights, accommodation, gears, etc) and one is responsible to write future articles and is responsible of the communication of the team.
We opened a have a facebook page https://www.facebook.com/invasionesport and a twitter https://twitter.com/InvEsport.

On September 26 2014 01:39 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:

tax avoidance? They don't want to pay so much taxes? They are "giving" money "away" so much that their tax % doesn't rise?

On September 26 2014 02:30 Cricketer12 wrote:

SK? as in the KeSPA team?DRG is staying as far away from them as possible

On September 26 2014 01:34 Cricketer12 wrote:
what in the fuck is going on?! this is insane!

On September 26 2014 02:02 ThomasjServo wrote:

In the US it would depend on how the organization was registered with the government as a legal entity, can't be too far off in France as well. TB for example technically, all players for Axiom are contractors, rather than direct employees. This affords Axiom a certain amount of leeway with their responsibilities towards the players and obligations to them at least under US law. This seems slightly more under the table than that though.

On September 26 2014 01:22 Invasion-eSport wrote:
As we said earlier we are a brand new team on the pro scene, as we can see there is a lot of question about our funding which we find it interesting people are more preoccupied by our funding than our project in the esport. So due to the high demand i'm going to answer (if there is more questions we will be happy to talk about it) we are currently and for the past 4 months funded by a family office. You are going to ask us what is their interest in investing in esport, there is first of all the taxes reason and there is also the fact that they found compatible one of the brand they are managing with esport.
The team is created in 2 division one is the community made to have fun to meet nice people, the second part is the pro section where only pros are recruited.
After long negotiations, we have reached an agreement to go to the next level and got the funds to be able to hire high quality players. We are also in talking to be able to make them come in Europe.
Our structure is based as an organisation with 1 president and 5 board members. Those people take all the decisions concerning the pro roaster, recruitment, budget and sponsors.
We are now 12 people working for this organisation (7 players and 5 staffs). The board and the staff is working for now 4 months (holidays were there so during summer not much work was done). Our designers are working on the logo, the new website, clothes, while others are taking care of the players (looking for their needs, tournaments, booking flights, accommodation, gears, etc) and one is responsible to write future articles and is responsible of the communication of the team.
We opened a have a facebook page https://www.facebook.com/invasionesport and a twitter https://twitter.com/InvEsport.

On September 26 2014 02:59 GuitarBizarre wrote:


The reason people are questioning your source of funding is the large number of scam teams and operations in the scene over the years that have folded owing players and staff large amounts of money that those people cannot afford to recoup via legal action. It isn't a slight against you at all, the fanbase simply wants you to bolster their confidence that you'll honour your promises and support TOP the way he deserves to be supported.

I can't really blame them, I mean, look at the list of organisations within esports in the last 4 or 5 years ALONE that have been caught cheating their players/staff: (And I know I'm missing a few more to boot, not to mention sponsors welching on deals with reputable teams, as was accused of LG with Team IM, TTeSports with Prime, and Intel with SlayerS)

Ministry Of Win
ESGN
eSahara (Absolute Legends)
Werra
Eclypsia
Team ReIGN
Team MJ
MYM
MTw
Team Love Your Girlfriend
Alloy eSports (And before that, they were KSG)
NASL
Team Apex
4Kings (They still owe DeMusliM a significant amount of money)
Quantic Gaming (Twice!)
AZUBU (Still operating but known to be funded by the VERY dubiously legitimate Sapinda investment group)
vVv Gaming (Didn't cheat anyone to my knowledge, but gave so little support to their SC2 team that they left en-masse resulting in the closure of that division)

I think the community have earned the right to a little skepticism regards vague promises of funding from un-named or previously unknown enterprises.

That said, I don't see that as a reason to judge you before you've been given your fair chance - I just agree with the community's request for clarity regards your funding. Hopefully we're all making something of nothing, but it's better to be safe and ask the question first.

On September 26 2014 03:17 mythandier wrote:

This is a pretty good post. Is there a liquipedia page with a list and details dedicated to the teams and/or individuals who have done harm to the scene? I'm able to find each one individually...and there's the "teams" portal but I can't find a "Shady Organization"-type page (note: it doesn't have to be named that).

That said, I'm glad to see TOP back in action.

On September 26 2014 01:44 ThomasjServo wrote:

Azubu style tax dodging? or wait, was that money laundering they were suspected of?

On September 26 2014 02:59 GuitarBizarre wrote:


The reason people are questioning your source of funding is the large number of scam teams and operations in the scene over the years that have folded owing players and staff large amounts of money that those people cannot afford to recoup via legal action. It isn't a slight against you at all, the fanbase simply wants you to bolster their confidence that you'll honour your promises and support TOP the way he deserves to be supported.

I can't really blame them, I mean, look at the list of organisations within esports in the last 4 or 5 years ALONE that have been caught cheating their players/staff: (And I know I'm missing a few more to boot, not to mention sponsors welching on deals with reputable teams, as was accused of LG with Team IM, TTeSports with Prime, and Intel with SlayerS)

Ministry Of Win
ESGN
eSahara (Absolute Legends)
Werra
Eclypsia
Team ReIGN
Team MJ
Own3d (Still owes Destiny money)
MYM
MTw
Team Love Your Girlfriend
Alloy eSports (And before that, they were KSG)
NASL
Team Apex
4Kings (They still owe DeMusliM a significant amount of money)
Quantic Gaming (Twice!)
AZUBU (Still operating but known to be funded by the VERY dubiously legitimate Sapinda investment group)
vVv Gaming (Didn't cheat anyone to my knowledge, but gave so little support to their SC2 team that they left en-masse resulting in the closure of that division)

I think the community have earned the right to a little skepticism regards vague promises of funding from un-named or previously unknown enterprises.

That said, I don't see that as a reason to judge you before you've been given your fair chance - I just agree with the community's request for clarity regards your funding. Hopefully we're all making something of nothing, but it's better to be safe and ask the question first.

On September 26 2014 04:00 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:

Don't forget Virus Gaming. Maybe the first scam team? They still owe thousands of euros to Naama.

On September 26 2014 03:48 Zealously wrote:


They should stream a picture of their bank account balance

On September 26 2014 04:27 Boucot wrote:
Oh boy... another weird french team.

On September 26 2014 05:25 Circumstance wrote:


Deimos didn't have real backers throughout its entire existence, but it was managed properly, didn't scam anyone, and made great content for the community before it disbanded under completely understandable circumstances. Invasion appears to be pretty much the same thing, just in French.

On September 26 2014 01:22 Invasion-eSport wrote:
As we said earlier we are a brand new team on the pro scene, as we can see there is a lot of question about our funding which we find it interesting people are more preoccupied by our funding than our project in the esport. So due to the high demand i'm going to answer (if there is more questions we will be happy to talk about it) we are currently and for the past 4 months funded by a family office. You are going to ask us what is their interest in investing in esport, there is first of all the taxes reason and there is also the fact that they found compatible one of the brand they are managing with esport.
The team is created in 2 division one is the community made to have fun to meet nice people, the second part is the pro section where only pros are recruited.
After long negotiations, we have reached an agreement to go to the next level and got the funds to be able to hire high quality players. We are also in talking to be able to make them come in Europe.
Our structure is based as an organisation with 1 president and 5 board members. Those people take all the decisions concerning the pro roaster, recruitment, budget and sponsors.
We are now 12 people working for this organisation (7 players and 5 staffs). The board and the staff is working for now 4 months (holidays were there so during summer not much work was done). Our designers are working on the logo, the new website, clothes, while others are taking care of the players (looking for their needs, tournaments, booking flights, accommodation, gears, etc) and one is responsible to write future articles and is responsible of the communication of the team.
We opened a have a facebook page https://www.facebook.com/invasionesport and a twitter https://twitter.com/InvEsport.

On September 26 2014 06:36 Marou wrote:
A french organization recruiting big players out of nowhere...that never goes wrong am i right ?

On September 26 2014 04:24 ThomasjServo wrote:

They've been around long enough, I hope they did a bit of shopping about with this. For all we know they could be on the team as a, "hey look who we have on our roster," kind of thing. Start up teams always come with their own caveats, especially when they are claiming to be paying players.

On September 26 2014 05:25 Circumstance wrote:


Deimos didn't have real backers throughout its entire existence, but it was managed properly, didn't scam anyone, and made great content for the community before it disbanded under completely understandable circumstances. Invasion appears to be pretty much the same thing, just in French.

On September 25 2014 22:14 Yonnua wrote:
Probably worth mentioning that this guy was a GSL finalist and responsible for the best game in the history of sc2 on Daybreak. :p

On September 26 2014 10:01 aRyuujin wrote:
baneling mom ~

On September 26 2014 01:22 Invasion-eSport wrote:
As we said earlier we are a brand new team on the pro scene, as we can see there is a lot of question about our funding which we find it interesting people are more preoccupied by our funding than our project in the esport. So due to the high demand i'm going to answer (if there is more questions we will be happy to talk about it) we are currently and for the past 4 months funded by a family office. You are going to ask us what is their interest in investing in esport, there is first of all the taxes reason and there is also the fact that they found compatible one of the brand they are managing with esport.
The team is created in 2 division one is the community made to have fun to meet nice people, the second part is the pro section where only pros are recruited.
After long negotiations, we have reached an agreement to go to the next level and got the funds to be able to hire high quality players. We are also in talking to be able to make them come in Europe.
Our structure is based as an organisation with 1 president and 5 board members. Those people take all the decisions concerning the pro roaster, recruitment, budget and sponsors.
We are now 12 people working for this organisation (7 players and 5 staffs). The board and the staff is working for now 4 months (holidays were there so during summer not much work was done). Our designers are working on the logo, the new website, clothes, while others are taking care of the players (looking for their needs, tournaments, booking flights, accommodation, gears, etc) and one is responsible to write future articles and is responsible of the communication of the team.
We opened a have a facebook page https://www.facebook.com/invasionesport and a twitter https://twitter.com/InvEsport.

On September 26 2014 08:16 Liquid`Zephyr wrote:
man that ogs jacket is still awesome

On September 25 2014 21:52 Invasion-eSport wrote:
ogsTOP has officially joined the team Invasion-eSport !!!!!

On September 26 2014 01:49 Circumstance wrote:
Is it even possible for a team to make a splash anymore in SC2? Are we so paranoid about new people coming in to involve themselves with the scene (which is kind of important, guys) that if someone dares to sign, and give money to, one of our oh-so-precious Korean gods (read as: Any Korean we have ever heard of), we will consistently call scam until they give us a photostat of their private accounting ledger? FFS, guys.

On September 26 2014 04:40 SinCitta wrote:


Germany and France taking turns creating shady teams. Are you even trying, rest of the world?

On September 26 2014 14:44 vult wrote:


Still the most badass looking SC2 player to date.

Maybe rivaled by Slayers'MMA.

On September 26 2014 01:49 Circumstance wrote:
Is it even possible for a team to make a splash anymore in SC2? Are we so paranoid about new people coming in to involve themselves with the scene (which is kind of important, guys) that if someone dares to sign, and give money to, one of our oh-so-precious Korean gods (read as: Any Korean we have ever heard of), we will consistently call scam until they give us a photostat of their private accounting ledger? FFS, guys.

On September 26 2014 17:17 Ragnarork wrote:


Slayers ? And god I loved this team....

On September 26 2014 19:58 nkr wrote:
Sometimes, new teams are legit. Not many had heard about mYi 18 months ago ;p

On September 25 2014 22:14 Yonnua wrote:
Probably worth mentioning that this guy was a GSL finalist and responsible for the best game in the history of sc2 on Daybreak. :p

On September 26 2014 22:39 chipmonklord17 wrote:


It was an hour long so I couldn't watch the entire thing to confirm, but it certainly looked familiar in the parts I went through. And I saw a nuke or two

On September 27 2014 00:54 Ragnarork wrote:


Well, the original question was "Which team went away with a bigger bang than Quantic?", and Slayers came to mind. Depends on what you call a big bang, but the one Slayers made was pretty damn big I'd say.

On September 27 2014 03:10 Doodsmack wrote:
If we want new teams and investment in sc2 we have to accept that the investors (and sponsors) will be taking a bet that might not work out. That this team has investors rather than sponsors behjnd it atm is not shady in and of itself; it just means some people are betting money they can make it work. If their bet fails, they didn't do the community wrong; in fact we should thank them. If anyone gets mad if their bet fails, the only issue is that you had false hopes as to the viability of SC2 business ventures. Considering the long term trend of sc2 viewership numbers, we should be kissing the feet of anyone willing to invest money and try to make their business sustainable. And having a couple Joe Schmoes on the forum grill them about their finances is not going to accomplish anything productive other than hopefully harden them to the ungrateful nature of the community.

On September 26 2014 20:36 nkr wrote:


everyone questioned who the f "bison" were (and are :D)