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Upcoming Changes to WCS 2015 - Page 20

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WCS AM will continue to include LatAm, Oceania/SEA, CN, and TW/HK/Macau, you can all stop freaking out about it.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 05 2014 04:02 GMT
#381
didn't expect this
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ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
September 05 2014 04:04 GMT
#382
On September 05 2014 13:02 Shellshock wrote:
didn't expect this

I was under the impression that all you big-shots had insider information. Is it just Wax?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 05 2014 04:05 GMT
#383
On September 05 2014 13:04 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 13:02 Shellshock wrote:
didn't expect this

I was under the impression that all you big-shots had insider information. Is it just Wax?

I'm no big shot. I'm like semielevated pleb because I have a hammer but no insider info
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 05 2014 04:05 GMT
#384
On September 05 2014 13:01 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 13:00 lichter wrote:
On September 05 2014 12:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 05 2014 12:55 The_Templar wrote:
On September 05 2014 12:54 Lunareste wrote:
so we're going to make GSL be worth 10x as much as the other WCS regions in terms of points, right?

or are we also gonna stop giving wcs points for international competitions?

I think WCS should make at least make the GSL a lot less top heavy than it is. Top 16 should all get pretty heavily rewarded in points and money.


The money distribution was chosen by GOM though. Even if Blizzard gave more money to the GSL, what's not to say GOM wouldn't simply add most of it to the first place?


the prize distribution was actually decided with the input of the players


They probably asked sOs.


That backfired for him then.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 05 2014 04:05 GMT
#385
On September 05 2014 13:04 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 13:02 Shellshock wrote:
didn't expect this

I was under the impression that all you big-shots had insider information. Is it just Wax?


People don't even know who Shellshock is outside the sc2 forums.
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
September 05 2014 04:05 GMT
#386
You know what would be awesome?

If they're region locking because the OSL is returning, and there will be two large tournaments in Korea instead of just one.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 05 2014 04:06 GMT
#387
On September 05 2014 12:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 12:55 The_Templar wrote:
On September 05 2014 12:54 Lunareste wrote:
so we're going to make GSL be worth 10x as much as the other WCS regions in terms of points, right?

or are we also gonna stop giving wcs points for international competitions?

I think WCS should make at least make the GSL a lot less top heavy than it is. Top 16 should all get pretty heavily rewarded in points and money.


The money distribution was chosen by GOM though. Even if Blizzard gave more money to the GSL, what's not to say GOM wouldn't simply add most of it to the first place?

Well GOM should figure it out if there is a hard region lock. It would be senseless to not change the GSL prize pool if these changes go through.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 05 2014 04:06 GMT
#388
On September 05 2014 13:05 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 13:04 ssxsilver wrote:
On September 05 2014 13:02 Shellshock wrote:
didn't expect this

I was under the impression that all you big-shots had insider information. Is it just Wax?


People don't even know who Shellshock is outside the sc2 forums.

I think some people know me in the sports forum a little
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bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
September 05 2014 04:06 GMT
#389
On September 05 2014 10:01 Plansix wrote:
Also, prepare for walks of text explaining why this the death of SC2 and the korean scene.
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 10:01 felisconcolori wrote:
This is not full region lock. Note it's a residency requirement. I see a sharp uptick in visa applications for respective countries.

Those cost a lot to get to be a full resident. You also need to live in the country, so you like need to move. That also cost money. No one will do that.

Its not just money. Its literally uprooting your entire life. It might not be a full region lock but about as close as you could possibly get to it.
QO Feasting
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 05 2014 04:07 GMT
#390
On September 05 2014 13:05 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 13:04 ssxsilver wrote:
On September 05 2014 13:02 Shellshock wrote:
didn't expect this

I was under the impression that all you big-shots had insider information. Is it just Wax?

I'm no big shot. I'm like semielevated pleb because I have a hammer but no insider info


i had inside info about 2 or 3 weeks ago
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
sc2isnotdying
Profile Joined June 2014
United States200 Posts
September 05 2014 04:07 GMT
#391
On September 05 2014 12:48 SlammerIV wrote:
I think this change is good for the longevity of the scene. I think most of the ppl complaining about this change are the more hardcore elements of the sc2 scene,the guys have been watching sc2 for years and have been cheering for the top Koreans even before sc2 came out. I can understand why those of ppl don't like this change.

I started watching StarCraft at the start of 2013 right as HotS was released, I have never watched GSL because the vods are paywalled and the Korean time etc and I rarely watch proleague because I just don't have much intrest in the player and teams involved. For me season 1 and 2 of wcs this years was really boring, all these random Koreans like pigbaby who I have never heard of before come in and wreck other random Koreans like revival and Oz.

I think most people love watching sports to see their favorite players play, for many ppl top Koreans like flash, jeadong are their favorites, for me, who never watched brood war, my players are the local heroes, Scarlett, kane, polt, suppy, major, neeb, minigun, huk, these are the players I want to see play. When there is a tourney with players I don't care about I don't watch. The excitment is not just about what happens in the game, its about if my player wins or not, just like in regular sports like footballs and soccer.

I don't buy the argument "everyone wants to see the top level of play" for one, the top NA players play at such a high level that most ppl( im not talking about the hardcore fans, you guys who have watched tons starcraft) would not be able to tell the difference between 2 barcode NA players or 2 barcode Koreans playing srsly, everyone uses the same builds anyway. For two, top play is not necessarily the most fun/ exciting to watch, I am not saying poor play is fun to watch, what I am saying is that at the top level the difference between top gsl players and top Na players is not so large that the games would be less exciting to watch.

I understand that this sucks for many of the Koreans but I think this is the best thing for the scene.
Imo this change will make it easier for the more casual fan to get interested in watching starcraft.
Just my 2 cents........




You should really watch proleague. Even to a non-hardcore fan, the level of play is noticeably higher because the players have a week to come up with map/matchup/player specific builds. KT vs SKT is an extremely easy storyline to get into because its basically Red Sox/Yankees. Plus it's not a huge time commitment, and the best players/teams will quickly make an impression.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
September 05 2014 04:07 GMT
#392
On September 05 2014 13:06 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 12:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 05 2014 12:55 The_Templar wrote:
On September 05 2014 12:54 Lunareste wrote:
so we're going to make GSL be worth 10x as much as the other WCS regions in terms of points, right?

or are we also gonna stop giving wcs points for international competitions?

I think WCS should make at least make the GSL a lot less top heavy than it is. Top 16 should all get pretty heavily rewarded in points and money.


The money distribution was chosen by GOM though. Even if Blizzard gave more money to the GSL, what's not to say GOM wouldn't simply add most of it to the first place?

Well GOM should figure it out if there is a hard region lock. It would be senseless to not change the GSL prize pool if these changes go through.

I dunno, the Korean mindset is all about winning, and the players want that large of a first prize. Strange for us I suppose.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 05 2014 04:08 GMT
#393
On September 05 2014 13:07 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 13:05 Shellshock wrote:
On September 05 2014 13:04 ssxsilver wrote:
On September 05 2014 13:02 Shellshock wrote:
didn't expect this

I was under the impression that all you big-shots had insider information. Is it just Wax?

I'm no big shot. I'm like semielevated pleb because I have a hammer but no insider info


i had inside info about 2 or 3 weeks ago

that's cool. How long did you have to beg olli to get it?
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 05 2014 04:08 GMT
#394
wow, these are some pretty huge changes, hope it's for the best
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 05 2014 04:08 GMT
#395
On September 05 2014 13:08 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 13:07 lichter wrote:
On September 05 2014 13:05 Shellshock wrote:
On September 05 2014 13:04 ssxsilver wrote:
On September 05 2014 13:02 Shellshock wrote:
didn't expect this

I was under the impression that all you big-shots had insider information. Is it just Wax?

I'm no big shot. I'm like semielevated pleb because I have a hammer but no insider info


i had inside info about 2 or 3 weeks ago

that's cool. How long did you have to beg olli to get it?

He extorted it from Zealously not Olli.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 05 2014 04:09 GMT
#396
On September 05 2014 13:08 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 13:07 lichter wrote:
On September 05 2014 13:05 Shellshock wrote:
On September 05 2014 13:04 ssxsilver wrote:
On September 05 2014 13:02 Shellshock wrote:
didn't expect this

I was under the impression that all you big-shots had insider information. Is it just Wax?

I'm no big shot. I'm like semielevated pleb because I have a hammer but no insider info


i had inside info about 2 or 3 weeks ago

that's cool. How long did you have to beg olli to get it?


olli is #4 in my internal chimera rankings
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 05 2014 04:09 GMT
#397
On September 05 2014 13:08 opterown wrote:
wow, these are some pretty huge changes, hope it's for the best

we can finally talk about how foreigners win premier tournaments again!
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 05 2014 04:09 GMT
#398
Is GSL code S getting reset as well?
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 05 2014 04:09 GMT
#399
On September 05 2014 13:09 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 13:08 opterown wrote:
wow, these are some pretty huge changes, hope it's for the best

we can finally talk about how foreigners win premier tournaments again!

It won't feel as good though :\
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 05 2014 04:10 GMT
#400
On September 05 2014 13:09 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 13:09 Shellshock wrote:
On September 05 2014 13:08 opterown wrote:
wow, these are some pretty huge changes, hope it's for the best

we can finally talk about how foreigners win premier tournaments again!

It won't feel as good though :\

and I'm sure there will be enough resident Koreans where it probably won't actually happen
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