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Liquid'HerO at the WEC

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Gemini_19
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1246 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-04 20:36:48
September 04 2014 20:18 GMT
#1

Writer: Gemini
Graphics: opterown

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_E-sport_Championships_2014


Although the WEC originally looked to become one of the most stacked tournaments of the year, a series of miscommunications led to KeSPA completely pulling out of the qualifiers, thus opening the way for other players. While it may be disappointing that WEC will not host the likes of Flash and Maru this weekend, the players that will gather in Hangzhou are nevertheless respectable.

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Confidence or uncertainty?


It's been a long time since people last regarded (P)Liquid'HerO as one of the best Protoss players in the world. Even with the known inconsistency that once catapulted him to great heights (before crashing, granted), the last year has not been kind to him. Back in 2011 and 2012, his good days consisted of winning tournaments while his bad one led to top 8 finishes. Recently, the results haven’t been coming as often for our handsome Liquid Protoss. However, with a recent WCS resurgence and a new house to practice in, he looks good going into the last quarter of the year.

And where better to test his newly found confidence than in an eight man tournament not too far away from home? WEC 2014 takes place this weekend with a lineup of (Z)Jaedong, Bunny (P)Top, (Z)Snute, (P)Jim, (P)MacSed, (P)Has, and (P)puCK. This is the perfect opportunity to see if HerO can make a comeback into the top protoss rankings. Jet lag won’t be an issue, the need to prepare for 20+ different opponents isn’t there, and there are only two zergs. The cards look set for another Protoss victor, and with HerO’s PvP looking better with each tournament he enters, it’s up to him to decide if he wants to bring it or not. The only downside to this tournament is that it doesn't provide any WCS points, which HerO desperately needs if he wants to appear at Blizzcon. He was nearly guaranteed a spot last year with his WCS AM Season 1 win, but this time he’s cutting it a bit close. This tournament will hopefully serve as a further boost in his confidence so he can go deep in the current WCS season.

For HerO, the biggest fear going into any tournament at the moment is his PvZ. Ever since he dropped out of WCS America Season 1 in the Ro32, PvZ has been his worst match up. Not counting his recent WCS AM S3 performance he sits at a 44% win rate vs Zerg. The problem stems from pure confusion, as the Liquid Protoss has been quite vocal on the fact that the matchup doesn’t quite make sense to him. Even when he wins and is asked if he’s finally figured it out he still says it was luck. He’s being suffocated with uncertainty. It makes sense, as well. Besides his patented stargate opener, he seems to do something different every game he plays which shows he’s really trying to find his own style again. As I mentioned earlier, luck is on HerO’s side with WEC as there are only two zergs participating and both are zergs that he is well versed in playing. He knows how to abuse Snute’s extremely greedy style as well as Jaedong’s hyper aggressive tech switches. Having said that, this won’t guarantee an effortless win, but even with his PvZ not being up to snuff, his knowledge of the players presented to him could be his saving grace.

With Liquid’Bunny no longer in the player pool HerO now only has two match ups to prepare for. Not only that, but HerO may have dodged a bullet with the Danish Terran being replaced by yet another Protoss given Bunny’s recent hot streak. A 2-0 vs the reigning WCS EU champion StarDust at Gfinity G3 is nothing to scoff at, and even HerO could realistically have been in trouble against his teammate. The Terran had been taking out top Protosses at nearly every tournament he entered and with HerO becoming bored with safer colossus openings and trying to play riskier with the high templar openings most consider dead, it seems like a stroke of luck that Bunny dropped out.

This leaves the plethora of Protosses for HerO to deal with and with a solid 59% PvP win rate since March, the chances look more than good on paper. He may not admit it himself, saying that “PvP is 50/50” but the results show he’s been doing the best vs his own brothers in the last few months and that only makes it better as he goes into this tournament full of protoss. Similar to his PvZ, his PvP in the past months has had a variety of openers. This most likely is a result of the match up being his weakest for a period of time in late 2013 to early 2014. He seems to like to fix his play by trying out a wild variety of openers to see what fits his style the best. He can do anything from the most aggressive 3gates you’ve seen to some of the greediest 1 gate expands you can sneak out. He should be feeling confident going up against any of the 5 other protoss in the tournament since he has a winning record over three of them and one of the others holds PvP as their weakest matchup. MacSed proves to be the only potential tough hitter for HerO as his PvP is one of his best matchups, but everything could easily turn on a dime due to how volatile PvP can end up being. HerO’s going to need to mix it up vs these protosses to eek out ahead, so long as he caters more to his opponent (like his past PvP’s seem to suggest) than to the matchup, he should be looked at as a strong contender for first place.

The stars are aligning for HerO as he enters a big stage in this nearly closed out year. It’s going to be up to him whether or not he makes use of his newly found confidence to once again shine as inspiration to protoss players around the world. Will he prove he truly is the hero we deserve? Or is he simply going to fall on his face and write another depressing blog again?

It’s not quite winter yet, but perhaps Hangzhou, China could use a bit of a cool breeze.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-04 20:19:07
September 04 2014 20:18 GMT
#2
dat liquid bias

dat css
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 04 2014 20:19 GMT
#3
On September 05 2014 05:18 Darkhorse wrote:
dat liquid bias

dat css


Maybe you should have written something
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
September 04 2014 20:19 GMT
#4
Typo on first line; double "regarded". You're welcome
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45084 Posts
September 04 2014 20:19 GMT
#5
Nice write-up! A respectable line-up, although no one super-high tier. Best of luck to HerO (and Jaedong)!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-04 20:19:52
September 04 2014 20:19 GMT
#6
um your divs are showing.

edit: nvm
Cluster__
Profile Joined September 2013
United States328 Posts
September 04 2014 20:20 GMT
#7
excited to see what snute is capable of here
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 04 2014 20:21 GMT
#8
On September 05 2014 05:19 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 05:18 Darkhorse wrote:
dat liquid bias

dat css


Maybe you should have written something

Get off my case dad I have work and uni
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
September 04 2014 20:22 GMT
#9
My man HerO gonna win this
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Gemini_19
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1246 Posts
September 04 2014 20:23 GMT
#10
On September 05 2014 05:18 Darkhorse wrote:
dat liquid bias

dat css


Always <3
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Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
September 04 2014 20:28 GMT
#11
On September 05 2014 05:22 DarkLordOlli wrote:
My man HerO gonna win this

I think Gemini is a bigger fanboy.
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Athaliel
Profile Joined April 2014
6 Posts
September 04 2014 20:38 GMT
#12
You seem so harsh on HerO, but he still has been a solid Proleague2014 player... GL to him, usually nice show
Kimb3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany744 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-04 20:40:12
September 04 2014 20:38 GMT
#13
That Line-Up is so weak, it's incredible. Jaedong is in just a slump, HerO is known to have serious, private problems.. still I think HerO or Snute have the best chances to win this one, because the other ones are even worse. Maybe some chinese can pull something off, too bad Snute might be very tired..
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Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
September 04 2014 20:38 GMT
#14
Gemini_19 #1 HerO fanboy
I root for CJ because their fb posts are hilarious
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-04 20:39:31
September 04 2014 20:39 GMT
#15
Only question is - will HerO drop a single map considering current state of JvP.

Dat Gemini bias though, lol :D 1 mention of Snute in whole article, poor Jens.

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asongdotnet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1060 Posts
September 04 2014 20:48 GMT
#16
that's lot of money for first place... second is nothing to scoff at either
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
September 04 2014 20:54 GMT
#17
no terrans = not watching
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Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
September 04 2014 21:02 GMT
#18
Hero vs Snute finals would be basically a dream come true. :p
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 04 2014 21:03 GMT
#19
Looking like a Jim vs Snute final. Foreigner victory
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fromhearttosun
Profile Joined November 2013
Russian Federation5 Posts
September 04 2014 21:13 GMT
#20
omg why not to take bomber instead bunny? no terrans = not watching [2]
Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
September 04 2014 21:15 GMT
#21
Weird write up.

HerO's v Z is worse than his v T and he knows Bunny about as well as he knows Snute, but somehow Snute, who has been going through even bigger Protoss names than Bunny, is barely mentioned as a threat were Bunny would have been ...
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
September 04 2014 21:52 GMT
#22
And this is where I would put my terrans
If I had any
(insert picture of Fairy Oddparents' dad)
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tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
September 04 2014 22:00 GMT
#23
dat liquid bias

dat css
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
September 04 2014 22:02 GMT
#24
I haven't read Liquid'HerO for a long while, almost thought he left Liquid for MVP lol.

GL to him I guess!
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 04 2014 22:05 GMT
#25
On September 05 2014 05:18 Darkhorse wrote:
dat liquid bias

dat css

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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-04 22:17:02
September 04 2014 22:16 GMT
#26
On September 05 2014 05:38 Kimb3r wrote:
That Line-Up is so weak, it's incredible. Jaedong is in just a slump, HerO is known to have serious, private problems.. still I think HerO or Snute have the best chances to win this one, because the other ones are even worse. Maybe some chinese can pull something off, too bad Snute might be very tired..


This is probably the first premier tournament where a foreigner is expected to win.
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SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
September 04 2014 22:19 GMT
#27
Snute or JD to win. I think HerO is in a critical point right now
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 04 2014 22:19 GMT
#28
This tournament can only be awesome if it ends in one of three ways: Snute wins, HerO wins, or Has vs JD finals that goes to final game where Has hits him with a sick cannon rush and wins.
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trada
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany347 Posts
September 04 2014 22:31 GMT
#29
im not a terran fan but the lack of possible matchups is going to suck...

you can only watch so many pvz's in a row
~
A3th3r
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
United States319 Posts
September 04 2014 22:54 GMT
#30
Her0 ownz <3
stale trite schlub
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
September 04 2014 23:14 GMT
#31
On September 05 2014 05:48 asongdotnet wrote:
that's lot of money for first place... second is nothing to scoff at either

I know right. It's crazy to think that second place at this tourney will get than Flash did for first at Toronto.
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 04 2014 23:16 GMT
#32
On September 05 2014 08:14 NexUmbra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 05:48 asongdotnet wrote:
that's lot of money for first place... second is nothing to scoff at either

I know right. It's crazy to think that second place at this tourney will get than Flash did for first at Toronto.

This tournament is basically that random tournament in Korea last year that Xenocider won. He got 10k for that and Life got 10k for winning the WAYYYYY harder IEM New York
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sc2isnotdying
Profile Joined June 2014
United States200 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-04 23:38:21
September 04 2014 23:36 GMT
#33
I hope everybody gets paid for this. This is a lot of money up for grabs for a tournament with such a weak field. The organizers are sure to be losing money on this (unless there's just a shit ton of money in chinese eSports that I don't know about) and I just hope that doesn't fuck the players who made the trip.
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-04 23:40:28
September 04 2014 23:40 GMT
#34
I assume we're counting this as a Premier
Ocean_1004
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Korea (South)37 Posts
September 05 2014 00:05 GMT
#35
Hero Fighting I love you
HerO is my hero
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
September 05 2014 00:06 GMT
#36
I am really rooting for Snute to win this one. He has sick ZvP, and there are only Protoss players here(I don't count JD, he might as well lose to PUck sadly).
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
_Nova_
Profile Joined May 2011
United States167 Posts
September 05 2014 01:08 GMT
#37
I still completely believe that, if HerO asked, Gemini would be gay with him. LOL

That said, nice writeup.
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
September 05 2014 02:24 GMT
#38
I miss HerO and his stylish harass-heavy PvZ in late WoL days
Good luck and hope he can win this
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
September 05 2014 03:30 GMT
#39
Sick write up looking forward to this!!
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SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-05 03:41:26
September 05 2014 03:41 GMT
#40
Always glad to see Jaedong in a tournament... except when he is slumping. If he loses to Puck (no offense intended), I really hope he takes a second look at the path his current career is taking.



also, no Terrans =/

would have loved to see Bunny in this
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 05 2014 03:46 GMT
#41
Excellent article. Hoping as always that HerO can do well.
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iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
September 05 2014 08:28 GMT
#42
I had to check liquipedia if Snute had left Liquid because no mention of him
It takes a fool to remain sane.
Jj_82
Profile Joined December 2012
Swaziland419 Posts
September 05 2014 08:54 GMT
#43
some easy money waiting there... Go Snute!
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Razac
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands101 Posts
September 05 2014 11:12 GMT
#44
NoTerran=NoCare
www.twitch.tv/razac_
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 05 2014 11:12 GMT
#45
On September 05 2014 20:12 Razac wrote:
NoTerran=NoCare


In that case, perhaps you should adopt a second rule:

NoCare=NoPost. Don't make bad throwaway posts like this.
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astray71
Profile Joined February 2012
United States325 Posts
September 05 2014 14:03 GMT
#46
I want the days of old when HerO was renown for his PvZ. It was my favorite matchup to watch and HerO played it is such an awesome way (HerO vs Leenock in GSL RO16)
There is no victory without the blessing of god, and there is no god but Madlife.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28503 Posts
September 05 2014 14:27 GMT
#47
If Hero'd win this one that would make 2 tournaments this year (he won an IEM in february). It's certainly not been his year but that would not be bad at all imo
I Protoss winner, could it be?
River1992
Profile Joined August 2014
Norway4 Posts
September 05 2014 14:56 GMT
#48
Snute deserves this the most, with his hard work and consistency lately. After falling 3-2 to Flash in Toronto, this could be a big result and motivation boost for him. Also some payment for all the hard work. He needs it, and deserves it - go Snute!
sakat15
Profile Joined September 2014
Croatia3 Posts
September 05 2014 16:05 GMT
#49
I would really want to see Jaedong do well, but i feel like he is going to disappoint, like always this year
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zelderan
Profile Joined May 2013
United States163 Posts
September 05 2014 17:05 GMT
#50
I was wondering why the author mentioned HerO so much, and then I realized it was Gemini ...
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Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
September 05 2014 18:54 GMT
#51
On September 05 2014 20:12 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 20:12 Razac wrote:
NoTerran=NoCare


In that case, perhaps you should adopt a second rule:

NoCare=NoPost. Don't make bad throwaway posts like this.


He's right though. Not having all the matchups (or at least all races) in the tournament really destroys the hype for the tournament.
Wat
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
September 07 2014 10:17 GMT
#52
JAEDONGGGG
Jaedong <3
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