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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On September 03 2014 11:26 BakedButters wrote: If you think the mine buff only changes TvZ, you are mistaken It changes TvP very slightly, not enough for it to be responsible for any perceived changes in balance. | ||
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BakedButters
United States748 Posts
On September 03 2014 11:58 ZAiNs wrote: It changes TvP very slightly, not enough for it to be responsible for any perceived changes in balance. If you look at Aligulac game stats on each race MU, PvT took the same % drop as ZvT. Maybe it's just the maps making drops harder to defend three bases | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On September 03 2014 12:52 BakedButters wrote: If you look at Aligulac game stats on each race MU, PvT took the same % drop as ZvT. Maybe it's just the maps making drops harder to defend three bases I think it's just natural that 'balance' shifts back and forth between two races as pros keep figuring the game out more. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/466161-down-the-terran-rabbit-hole-with-liquidbunny Bunny says the new map pool and the new patch haven't changed TvP that much. | ||
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BakedButters
United States748 Posts
On September 03 2014 12:57 ZAiNs wrote: I think it's just natural that 'balance' shifts back and forth between two races as pros keep figuring the game out more. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/466161-down-the-terran-rabbit-hole-with-liquidbunny Bunny says the new map pool and the new patch haven't changed TvP that much. Bunny says TvP has become very predictable for the Terran, and that's the advantage, even if the Terran doesn't use widow mines The patch effectively cuts the Protoss's tech in half. In the early game, Terrans can refine their builds knowing they have less threats. The need/gamble to not go for reaper first is becoming less mandatory. In the mid-game, Terrans even more stronger than they already are. It's much harder to defend drops going collosus tech, and with the patch, drops can do greater damage with widow mines even against thermal lance (as Bunny said). So far Toss are struggling/ not experienced to defend with trying to get multiple observers in place. Terran can then be more greedy or take advantage of their strong mid-game, while Toss, if they are not going for a timing, is worried about defending their bases. TvP is all about composition for the terran in the late game to match and effectively counter Protoss army comp, or overwhelm with larger forces. In the late game, they can know more the exact collosus count and prepare ahead of time with vikings, build double starport, get the right composition at the right time. The protoss tries to suprise the Terran by example building 1 collo then going immortals, or try to go quick storm after collo. | ||
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orvinreyes
577 Posts
On September 03 2014 11:13 GolemMadness wrote: You know Flash is back on top when people are complaining about how boring he is despite him using a variety of builds to pull off exciting wins. So true. BW LR thread nostalgia! | ||
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Kommatiazo
United States579 Posts
Flash winning Blizzcon will be the single greatest storyline of all Starcraft 2. Imagine if he does it against Jaedong in the finals... The nerd chills are real man. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
I love me some Turtle-cheese-macro-14cc-5rax-boredom | ||
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Neemi
Netherlands656 Posts
On September 03 2014 14:03 Kommatiazo wrote: Go Flash. GO! DO IT! Please, for the love of you! We need this. Flash winning Blizzcon will be the single greatest storyline of all Starcraft 2. Imagine if he does it against Jaedong in the finals... The nerd chills are real man. With the way Jaedong plays after LoneStarClash, him reaching the finals is almost as big of a miracle as it was for Flash before IEM. But there is a solid chance Flash's success has reignited him, and I would love to have one more amazing Flash vs. Jaedong finals in SC2 to pretty much cement their legacy for the next century. | ||
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riotjune
United States3394 Posts
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orllyfools
United States153 Posts
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
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KingAlphard
Italy1705 Posts
On September 03 2014 12:57 ZAiNs wrote: I think it's just natural that 'balance' shifts back and forth between two races as pros keep figuring the game out more. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/466161-down-the-terran-rabbit-hole-with-liquidbunny Bunny says the new map pool and the new patch haven't changed TvP that much. Agreed. Just a new, strong build coming out and the winrate in a certain matchup will change significantly. Those winrates reflect balance only when they are costant for several months. | ||
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Starecat
940 Posts
On September 05 2014 05:02 orllyfools wrote: When is there gonna be a IEM Korea or DH:KOR?? It would be cool. | ||
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