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Code S - Cure and Zest advance to Ro8

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Last Edited: 2014-08-28 19:21:58
August 28 2014 19:17 GMT
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http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_3/Code_S


GSL's final Ro16 of the year kicked off with Group A, featuring an ensemble of two GSL champions in Zest and Soulkey along with two rising Terrans in Reality and Cure.

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The group ended up being a hard fought one with many twists, turns and unexpected results. In the end, JinAir's (T)Cure and KT's (P)Zest stood triumphant as (Z)Soulkey and (T)Reality fell to Code A. Cure, the apprentice of Maru, did well for himself by advancing first from his group and keeping his dream of a Royal Road alive. While he encountered some bumps along the way, GSL champion Zest defeated Soulkey twice to secure his third Ro8 in a row and continue his tradition of utterly trashing SKT players.

The first series of the night kicked off between (T)Reality and (T)Cure. In this series Reality chose to be the aggressor in both games, dumping early gas into banshees in the hope of a quick win to start things off. Cure kept his cool in both games and, despite taking early losses, always managed to rally back by inflicting more damage with aptly controlled drops and flawless macro. Thus Cure would take small incremental advantages until he finally had enough to close out the series.

The second series of the day was a battle of GSL champions. The match between (Z)Soulkey, the first HotS GSL champion and (P)Zest, Royal Roader and SKT nemesis extraordinaire, started on Catallena. The first game included a lot of insanity as both players opted for non-standard plays. Soulkey hatch blocked Zest's natural, prompting Zest to pylon block two of the potential expansions for Soulkey. Many bumps in the road later Soulkey was the one to come out with a lead, but Zest struck back with the old and reliable sentry drop into the main, forcefielding the ramp via warp prism. Zest even added his own twist to this tactic by bringing along a probe and building a cannon to aid in the assault. Soulkey desperately fought but in the end, having lost his main, was forced to tap out.
The second game opened up standard but it wouldn't stay that way for long as Zest pulled out more trickery in the form of a hidden dark shrine. Zest managed to snipe the third of Soulkey and then transitioned into a formidable archon/gateway attack. With his economy in tatters Soulkey couldn't muster enough units to hold and had to relinquish the first series to Zest.

The winner's match series between (T)Cure and (P)Zest can be summed up with two words: unrelenting aggression. In both games he won, Cure made it comfortably to the midgame before launching a devastating flurry of drops to systematically pull Zest apart, tearing apart his opponent's economy before bringing the hammer down upon the Protoss army. Though Zest would rally back and tie the series with a quick blink stalker attack on Deadwing, the third game would become an uncomfortable repeat of game 1. Being unable to withstand the never ending aggression of Cure, the GSL champion crumbled under the pressure and allowed Cure passage into his first ever individual league quarterfinals.

In the loser's match (Z)Soulkey proved his dominance over (T)Reality in both long and short games. He first survived Reality's hellion/banshee pressure to take the first game with a flurry of counterattacks that allowed him to eventually decimate the main army. In the second game Soulkey added a sprinkle of mozzarella by baneling busting Reality to close out the series quickly, setting up a rematch between him and Zest for the second spot in the Ro8.

The final series of the day, just like the first series, started out a little crazy. On Foxtrot Labs, Zest went for an early gateway attack and decided to contain Soulkey on two bases. Soulkey responded with a nydus worm that caught Zest completely off guard and devastated his bases. Unable to hold on the KT Protoss was forced to tap out, surrendering game 1 to his SKT opponent.
The second game of the series was both the longest and the best of the day. Both players managed to safely set up their economies before starting a series of tech switch wars with both players trying to outsmart the other or reacting to the other's machinations. Soulkey was the first to strike, leading the charge with a massive upgraded ultralisk force backed by some brood lords. Despite destroying the 4th of Zest, Soulkey suffered heavy casualties, losing all his broods and thus weakening his defense. Zest repaid the favor tenfold by devastating two bases of Soulkey and forcing his army back, then took advantage of the ensuing chaos and sniped a third base in the span of mere minutes. However, Soulkey's army was still strong enough to help him stabilize and establish more bases while he continued to deny Zest his. It looked grim for the KT Protoss as Soulkey had teched to swarm hosts and was preparing for a massive attack on the last mining base. Zest rallied back in time, taking the best possible fight he could, taking out the forces in the skies and pushing forwardbefore the swarm hosts could reach critical mass. Zest devastated the entire army of Soulkey and, once his observers finally joined the fray, it was lights out for the SKT Zerg.

The last game of the day would take place on Merry Go Round. Soulkey gambled and chose to go for a early pool in the hopes of catching Zest off guard. Zest sniffed it out in time to prepare the perfect counter, taking a economic lead after suffering nearly no losses. From there Zest went phoenix into the standard colossus/stalker army while Soulkey responded by getting swarm hosts and digging in for the long run. But Zest was not interested in a war of attrition and would not allow Soulkey to get his critical mass, instead charging forward and forcing Soulkey into a wall, then breaking him. Devastating both the army and the economy of the SKT Zerg, a final victory seemed inevitable for the KT Protoss. Despite losing his own natural to Soulkey's last-ditch efforts, his advantage was insurmountable and left him laying on the wayside as Zest took the final map of the day and advanced to the Ro8.

Overall, we can see (T)Cure as a reflection of (T)Maru. In all his match ups he seems to have a certain fondness of aggression and multi-tasking, utilizing drops and multi-pronged attacks of all sorts to gain incremental advantages before taking decisive fights to simply devastate and rip apart his opponents. However, when the need arises he can also play slow and methodical, as evidenced by his gamess against ParalyzE and MyuNgSiK. But now, Cure is entering uncharted waters, the territory of long series planning and methodical preparation. We've seen that even the most mechanically able players can falter at this stage, so who will Cure look to now for guidance? Will he continue to draw on the brute strength of Maru, or will he learn from the cunning of players like Mvp?

(P)Zest continues to display admirable consistency by returning to the round of 8 for a 3rd time in a row. Despite showing signs of weakness in PvT, his PvP and PvZ are as strong as ever. It's interesting to note that in the season he won, Zest also made it out of his group in second place after losing to a Terran and finally reaching the Ro8 by defeating the previous paragon of consistency, Soulkey. It remains to be seen if whatever dark magic Zest has conjured from the blood of fallen SKT players will be enough for him to make a repeat run, but the rumours of his demise have been greatly exaggerated.

(T)Reality continues to struggle in the later rounds of the GSL. He has displayed some solid TvP to be able to get through the qualifier, into Code S and the round of 16, but he seems to have a lasting weakness in TvT and TvZ. With Terrans on the rise and Zergs still holding strong, those are weaknesses he has to patch up if he wants to make it deeper into the tournament in the future.

But of all the gathered players, (Z)Soulkey must be the one feeling the pressure most. He joined SKT, a team of champions, when he himself was still considered a champion contender in every tournament he entered. Now he struggles to reach the round of 8 consistently. While constant presence in the Ro16 is no mean feat, it's something entirely different from the days where he simply would not lose prior to the quarterfinals. This could also be seen as a streak of bad luck, as in each of the GSL seasons this year Soulkey has had to go up against Zest. Do you know what Zest is particularly strong against? SKT.
So if Soulkey wants to make another deep run - which he no doubt does - he will have to face his own personal demon in the KT Protoss and, sooner rather than later, defeat his tormentor.


Players in the Ro8 (2/8):
(T)Cure
(P)Zest
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Don Jimbo
Profile Joined August 2014
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August 28 2014 19:24 GMT
#2
It was just bad luck with the brackets for Soulkey. He would have advanced if he didn't have to play Zest twice.
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NaboliC
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden130 Posts
August 28 2014 19:26 GMT
#3
Did they fell to Code A just by loosing in ro16? Really?
Zealously
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 28 2014 19:27 GMT
#4
On August 29 2014 04:26 NaboliC wrote:
Did they fell to Code A just by loosing in ro16? Really?


Yes.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 28 2014 19:31 GMT
#5
On August 29 2014 04:24 Don Jimbo wrote:
It was just bad luck with the brackets for Soulkey. He would have advanced if he didn't have to play Zest twice.

I think Cure would have had a good shot at beating Soulkey if the groups were round robin format. He's been on fire lately.
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thekaas
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark235 Posts
August 28 2014 19:33 GMT
#6
On August 29 2014 04:26 NaboliC wrote:
Did they fell to Code A just by loosing in ro16? Really?

That's how it's been for the longest time, really.
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
August 28 2014 19:34 GMT
#7
Cure

And Zest, wow, still consistent and has not fallen into the Code A hell, still cool to see this guy playing so well.
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Rikudou
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany151 Posts
August 28 2014 19:40 GMT
#8
Soulkey well at least we will have 1 zerg in the next round thanks to group Z
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16095 Posts
August 28 2014 19:45 GMT
#9
On August 29 2014 04:31 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 04:24 Don Jimbo wrote:
It was just bad luck with the brackets for Soulkey. He would have advanced if he didn't have to play Zest twice.

I think Cure would have had a good shot at beating Soulkey if the groups were round robin format. He's been on fire lately.


It would've been something I would've loved to see.

Soulkey is much better in ZvT than ZvP IMO, and his style has been rather difficult for Maru to defeat who Cure seems to emulate quite a bit.

Overall I'm happy with the results with the group even if a little sad that Soulkey didn't advance. Zest's ZvP is just ridiculously strong.
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REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
August 28 2014 20:10 GMT
#10
Really sad that Soulkey didn't make it. Zest definitely underestimated his opponents and it almost had cost him Ro8, I still think he is the best player out of this group to move on and Cure played amazingly as well, I would say that you can call him Ro8 material for sure, based on his recent plays.

My predictions for Group B are:

1.) (P)Rain
2.) (Z)EffOrt

So we get:

(T)Cure vs (Z)EffOrt
(P)Rain vs (P)Zest Ouch!
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16095 Posts
August 28 2014 20:12 GMT
#11
On August 29 2014 05:10 REyeM wrote:
Really sad that Soulkey didn't make it. Zest definitely underestimated his opponents and it almost had cost him Ro8, I still think he is the best player out of this group to move on and Cure played amazingly as well, I would say that you can call him Ro8 material for sure, based on his recent plays.

My predictions for Group B are:

1.) (P)Rain
2.) (Z)EffOrt

So we get:

(T)Cure vs (Z)EffOrt
(P)Rain vs (P)Zest Ouch!


Good, it'd improve the chances of a non-Protoss champion to have those two knock each other out.

I want this Protoss kill-streak to end.
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Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
August 28 2014 20:18 GMT
#12
In the end, Soulkey was really close to advancing to ro8, the ending of game 2 match 5 was quite epic.

But really if he had been eliminated, Zest would have had nightmares of nidus cause the way he lost first game was kinda silly
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REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
August 28 2014 20:19 GMT
#13
On August 29 2014 05:18 Gwavajuice wrote:
In the end, Soulkey was really close to advancing to ro8, the ending of game 2 match 5 was quite epic.

But really if he had been eliminated, Zest would have had nightmares of nidus cause the way he lost first game was kinda silly


That was beautiful.
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Thyrym
Profile Joined December 2013
89 Posts
August 28 2014 20:36 GMT
#14
I think Zest will win GSL again... im feeling it @-@
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-28 20:45:45
August 28 2014 20:43 GMT
#15
On August 29 2014 05:36 Thyrym wrote:
I think Zest will win GSL again... im feeling it @-@

I don't think Zest is performing up to that level, but then again, Classic won the last GSL despite being clearly inferior to many of the other players (soO included).

Currently, Cure or Flash is my favorite to win. Although, this is an unfair comparison since many of the groups were more stacked than Flash's, Flash was the only one to go 4-0 in his group.

Humorously, Cure lost to Bunny (foreign Terran) 0-3 in an online tournament quite recently!
Zealously
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 28 2014 20:44 GMT
#16
On August 29 2014 05:43 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 05:36 Thyrym wrote:
I think Zest will win GSL again... im feeling it @-@

I don't think Zest is performing up to that level, but then again, Classic won the last GSL despite being clearly inferior to many of the other players (soO included).

Currently, Cure or Flash is my favorite to win. Although, this is an unfair comparison since many of the groups were more stacked than Flash's, Flash was the only one to go 4-0 in his group.


I don't think you're ever clearly inferior to a player if you can beat that player in a Bo7
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Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
August 28 2014 20:49 GMT
#17
Very impressed by Cure's performance in this group. Happy to see it.

Also glad that Zest managed to scrape by, too. Scrappier than desired, but the end result is still good.
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-28 21:01:25
August 28 2014 20:51 GMT
#18
On August 29 2014 05:44 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 05:43 Blargh wrote:
On August 29 2014 05:36 Thyrym wrote:
I think Zest will win GSL again... im feeling it @-@

I don't think Zest is performing up to that level, but then again, Classic won the last GSL despite being clearly inferior to many of the other players (soO included).

Currently, Cure or Flash is my favorite to win. Although, this is an unfair comparison since many of the groups were more stacked than Flash's, Flash was the only one to go 4-0 in his group.


I don't think you're ever clearly inferior to a player if you can beat that player in a Bo7

Ehhhhhh... When Soulkey beat Innovation in the finals of GSL, I'd have said that Innovation was still a way better player. Innovation's mistakes in that finals were much smaller than Soulkey's. He definitely proved himself when he won the season finals, defeating sOs 4-0.

Even when a player wins a tournament, I can still call them "clearly inferior" to another player, even if they beat said player/s. Wins in SC2 aren't actually a very good representation of skill.

Note: When I say "inferior", I am talking about quality of play, skill, etc. I would have never considered Classic's level of play to be truly top-tier, despite him winning a GSL. You're free to feel otherwise, obviously.
Mistakes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1102 Posts
August 29 2014 00:52 GMT
#19
On August 29 2014 05:51 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 05:44 Zealously wrote:
On August 29 2014 05:43 Blargh wrote:
On August 29 2014 05:36 Thyrym wrote:
I think Zest will win GSL again... im feeling it @-@

I don't think Zest is performing up to that level, but then again, Classic won the last GSL despite being clearly inferior to many of the other players (soO included).

Currently, Cure or Flash is my favorite to win. Although, this is an unfair comparison since many of the groups were more stacked than Flash's, Flash was the only one to go 4-0 in his group.


I don't think you're ever clearly inferior to a player if you can beat that player in a Bo7

Ehhhhhh... When Soulkey beat Innovation in the finals of GSL, I'd have said that Innovation was still a way better player. Innovation's mistakes in that finals were much smaller than Soulkey's. He definitely proved himself when he won the season finals, defeating sOs 4-0.

Even when a player wins a tournament, I can still call them "clearly inferior" to another player, even if they beat said player/s. Wins in SC2 aren't actually a very good representation of skill.

Note: When I say "inferior", I am talking about quality of play, skill, etc. I would have never considered Classic's level of play to be truly top-tier, despite him winning a GSL. You're free to feel otherwise, obviously.


See my views are completely opposite. I have never seen Innovation as a TOP tier player. He's pretty good, but nothing special. Soulkey on the other hand, is amazing. I love that guy, and probably my favorite player (Bomber is up there too). My excitement for this season just went down a lot. No Soulkey. ='(
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jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 01:49:38
August 29 2014 01:47 GMT
#20
On August 29 2014 04:31 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 04:24 Don Jimbo wrote:
It was just bad luck with the brackets for Soulkey. He would have advanced if he didn't have to play Zest twice.

I think Cure would have had a good shot at beating Soulkey if the groups were round robin format. He's been on fire lately.


Doubt it. Soukey's best match up is his ZvT. In fact, he's one of the few zergs who is feeling competent about the Terran match up.

edit: On the other hand, Zest proved to everyone why he picked Soulkey in the group selection stage. He simply owns him with meta game. If I remember correctly, out of five games that they played Soulkey lost the build battle four times.
jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
August 29 2014 01:57 GMT
#21
On August 29 2014 05:43 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 05:36 Thyrym wrote:
I think Zest will win GSL again... im feeling it @-@

I don't think Zest is performing up to that level, but then again, Classic won the last GSL despite being clearly inferior to many of the other players (soO included).

Currently, Cure or Flash is my favorite to win. Although, this is an unfair comparison since many of the groups were more stacked than Flash's, Flash was the only one to go 4-0 in his group.

Humorously, Cure lost to Bunny (foreign Terran) 0-3 in an online tournament quite recently!


Cure did play well against Zest, but I still have my doubts about him. His play vs Zest was somewhat Maru-ish except he did not display the exceptional micro ability that Maru possesses. He did not delay his third or fourth terribly late, unlike Maru who thinks he can beat every Protoss with only his micro ability. The fact that Cure kept the constant pressure and Zest losing too many stalkers during engagements caused the delay in the Protoss tech to the point at which Terran were able to out macro the other race.
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
August 29 2014 06:49 GMT
#22
On August 29 2014 05:43 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 05:36 Thyrym wrote:
I think Zest will win GSL again... im feeling it @-@

I don't think Zest is performing up to that level, but then again, Classic won the last GSL despite being clearly inferior to many of the other players (soO included).

Currently, Cure or Flash is my favorite to win. Although, this is an unfair comparison since many of the groups were more stacked than Flash's, Flash was the only one to go 4-0 in his group.

Humorously, Cure lost to Bunny (foreign Terran) 0-3 in an online tournament quite recently!

I seriously don't think that Cure, despite beating Zest, can really beat players like Rain, or PartinG or Flash in Bo5 's or more those 3's vT MU is crazily strong and solid, however Zest's vT is substantially weaker.
(btw, I know that Cure beat Rain 2-0 in IEM qualifiers, but Rain also beat Cure 2-0 in Code A, so its provably online unluckiness for Rain)
Svizcy
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovenia300 Posts
August 29 2014 07:27 GMT
#23
On August 29 2014 04:33 thekaas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 04:26 NaboliC wrote:
Did they fell to Code A just by loosing in ro16? Really?

That's how it's been for the longest time, really.


Wait, really? Don't they play in UP and Down matches first to determine who stays in code S ?
eusoc
Profile Joined November 2011
Italy82 Posts
August 29 2014 09:04 GMT
#24
On August 29 2014 16:27 Svizcy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 04:33 thekaas wrote:
On August 29 2014 04:26 NaboliC wrote:
Did they fell to Code A just by loosing in ro16? Really?

That's how it's been for the longest time, really.


Wait, really? Don't they play in UP and Down matches first to determine who stays in code S ?

Code A is just like WCS Challanger now, there are only people dropped from code S in the previous season and people that went through the qualifier and it's played all before Code S of course. If you pass the group you get in the ro32, if you lose you must do the qualifier next season. There are actually 24 players from qualifiers and 24 players from Code S, there is no such thing as "Code A player" anymore.
Motlu
Profile Joined August 2014
Australia884 Posts
August 29 2014 09:33 GMT
#25
On August 29 2014 10:57 jellyjello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 05:43 Blargh wrote:
On August 29 2014 05:36 Thyrym wrote:
I think Zest will win GSL again... im feeling it @-@

I don't think Zest is performing up to that level, but then again, Classic won the last GSL despite being clearly inferior to many of the other players (soO included).

Currently, Cure or Flash is my favorite to win. Although, this is an unfair comparison since many of the groups were more stacked than Flash's, Flash was the only one to go 4-0 in his group.

Humorously, Cure lost to Bunny (foreign Terran) 0-3 in an online tournament quite recently!


Cure did play well against Zest, but I still have my doubts about him. His play vs Zest was somewhat Maru-ish except he did not display the exceptional micro ability that Maru possesses. He did not delay his third or fourth terribly late, unlike Maru who thinks he can beat every Protoss with only his micro ability. The fact that Cure kept the constant pressure and Zest losing too many stalkers during engagements caused the delay in the Protoss tech to the point at which Terran were able to out macro the other race.


To be honest, Cure not being as micro focused as Maru is not a disadvantage.
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Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
August 29 2014 09:41 GMT
#26
Cure has a lot of potential moving forward in my eyes. Still, due to him being a royal roader and all, I'll wait until after the Ro8 to jump on the bandwagon, since there's potential for all kinds of things (draws a really tough opponent, nerves, etc.) to stop him right there. I'm not 100% sure how the bracket works (in terms of who faces who in the Ro8), but I'm fairly sure Cure could conceivably topple anyone he faces. Then again, he could also quite easily lose to anyone. Such is the life of a royal roader.
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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
August 29 2014 09:58 GMT
#27
Does Cure even qualify for Blizzcon if he wins GSL? I think you need more than the 2000 points you get for first place to qualify for Blizzcon from scratch.
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Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
August 29 2014 10:07 GMT
#28
On August 29 2014 18:58 Grumbels wrote:
Does Cure even qualify for Blizzcon if he wins GSL? I think you need more than the 2000 points you get for first place to qualify for Blizzcon from scratch.


Not by default, it gives him around a ~14% chance (according to WCS Predictor)
However, winning GSL + Red Bull DC would give him a pretty solid chance iirc
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 29 2014 10:19 GMT
#29
I hope a terran walks the royal road.
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August 29 2014 11:57 GMT
#30
Grr why do people forget that the warp prism drop with cannon was done by others in WOL

Other than that great write up. GO BICEP TOSS :D
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August 29 2014 13:15 GMT
#31
On August 29 2014 09:52 Mistakes wrote:
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On August 29 2014 05:51 Blargh wrote:
On August 29 2014 05:44 Zealously wrote:
On August 29 2014 05:43 Blargh wrote:
On August 29 2014 05:36 Thyrym wrote:
I think Zest will win GSL again... im feeling it @-@

I don't think Zest is performing up to that level, but then again, Classic won the last GSL despite being clearly inferior to many of the other players (soO included).

Currently, Cure or Flash is my favorite to win. Although, this is an unfair comparison since many of the groups were more stacked than Flash's, Flash was the only one to go 4-0 in his group.


I don't think you're ever clearly inferior to a player if you can beat that player in a Bo7

Ehhhhhh... When Soulkey beat Innovation in the finals of GSL, I'd have said that Innovation was still a way better player. Innovation's mistakes in that finals were much smaller than Soulkey's. He definitely proved himself when he won the season finals, defeating sOs 4-0.

Even when a player wins a tournament, I can still call them "clearly inferior" to another player, even if they beat said player/s. Wins in SC2 aren't actually a very good representation of skill.

Note: When I say "inferior", I am talking about quality of play, skill, etc. I would have never considered Classic's level of play to be truly top-tier, despite him winning a GSL. You're free to feel otherwise, obviously.


See my views are completely opposite. I have never seen Innovation as a TOP tier player. He's pretty good, but nothing special. Soulkey on the other hand, is amazing. I love that guy, and probably my favorite player (Bomber is up there too). My excitement for this season just went down a lot. No Soulkey. ='(

Dominates for months. Not top tier. Ok
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
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