EPTThat was great. I loved the music changes too.
My Italian is really terrible but still great cast. Would watch again.
World Cup casting compared to SC2 casting - Page 5
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StarMoon
Canada682 Posts
That was great. I loved the music changes too. My Italian is really terrible but still great cast. Would watch again. | ||
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tadL
Croatia679 Posts
On June 21 2014 09:08 Roswell wrote: Football is only the most popular sport, because its the easiest and cheapest to play. Not because it is the "beautiful game." How exciting to watch people pass a ball around for 90 minutes. The defenders advantage is such a buzzkill. It would be like if in Basketball you were only allowed to bring 3 players past your half court. i wanted to reply but than i saw "united states" and it would be a waste of time. this thread is really funny so thx to creator. A lot of bullshit in it. some pure internet gold. | ||
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Vertigro
United Kingdom261 Posts
On June 22 2014 08:08 tadL wrote: i wanted to reply but than i saw "united states" and it would be a waste of time. this thread is really funny so thx to creator. A lot of bullshit in it. some pure internet gold. Rofl... on behalf of 1/6th of the global population, thank you for quickly identifying why that comment was so very pointless to reply to :D | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Thalandros
Netherlands1151 Posts
Seriously though. Football is hyped up and way ahead in EU than NA or atleast USA, considering we have more shits to give. or a more recent showing of Jack van Gelder's amazing commentary: Of the recent slaughterfest that was Spain - Netherlands | ||
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Penguinator
United States837 Posts
On June 21 2014 23:07 aerlins wrote: you can not compare most sports with sc2. How many people watching the world cup, are playing soccer by themselfes or have at least in the near past? And how much of the people watching sc2 streams are playing sc2 themself activly? Next difference is, sc2 is way way way more complex then soccer, basicly u can tell anyone in 5 minutes the most important things of soccer and he can allready watch and understand whats going on in a soccer game....try that for sc2, wouldn t work, aber 5 minutes of explanations the person would still have absolutely no clue whats goin on in a sc2 game. I wrote a post yesterday about how i think a lot of casters are not doing very well in knowing the game. And i still think this is true. A full time caster has to at least have the knowledge of a masters zerg, terran and protoss players since it maybe takes like 2 hours a day average on practice and informing yourself to be on that level. I just want to mention some good examples of casters in terms of knowledge, day9, apollo, wolf, rotterdam.... I don t want any super deep analysis in games, but at least proper knowledge, i think artosis was the best caster some years ago, nowadways if feels like hes playing and casting too many other games. You absolutely can explain the basics of SC2 to someone in 5 minutes. "Use workers to gather resources, use resources to make buildings and then produce an army to go kill the opponents' buildings and army." A bronze level player can still watch SC2 and enjoy it without understanding all of the deep intricacies that go unnoticed to them. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On June 24 2014 07:44 Penguinator wrote: You absolutely can explain the basics of SC2 to someone in 5 minutes. "Use workers to gather resources, use resources to make buildings and then produce an army to go kill the opponents' buildings and army." A bronze level player can still watch SC2 and enjoy it without understanding all of the deep intricacies that go unnoticed to them. Try explaining it to your grandmother, see how fast she can get what is going on. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
On June 24 2014 07:54 ZAiNs wrote: Try explaining it to your grandmother, see how fast she can get what is going on. She would know what's going on, but wouldn't know the significance of all the little individual dots on the screen. Red guy is trying to kill blue guy. It's not a tough concept, and my grandmother isn't senile... This conversation is irrelevant to the topic though. The original person who brought it up did it senselessly imo. | ||
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
On June 21 2014 22:42 submarine wrote: What i despise is fake hype. Especially fake hype delivered seriously. WC commentary can be emotional because it really is exiting for a caster to comment on his national team. This is believable and does not seem fake to me. SC2 casting on the other hand can be cringeworthy. Stop tanking yourself so seriously. Who the fuck thought wearing suits to comment on two nerds playing a videogame against each other would be a good idea? In the last days I have seen a lot of german WC coverage. Very seldom do I see ties in this footage. There is a reason for that. Formal and serious is not fun. People watch the WC for fun. The best SC2 casting I have seen was at HSC. The casting there is less "professional". There is a lot more real humor and at the same time there is often more real insight offered. The players and casters alike are more real and try less to imitate TV sport casts targeted at wider audiences. They do not try to fake emotions as much. The worst offenders in my opinion are the English proleague casters apart from moonglade. It's funny how much I utterly agree and disagree with what you have to say. I totally despise fake hype as well. WC commentary can be emotional, but all football commentary can be... Like the OP said, the English commentary is not really emotional, so I don't think that's a valid point. SC2 casting is way too much nonsense and way too little hype. There are a few good casters (I find there too be much less than everyone else though, just because of my standards in what I want to hear from commentary), but way too many of them don't do what I believe to be their job well enough. HSC has "fun" casting, and everyone thinks highly of it, but I still had it on mute most of the time, just because I value other sounds sometimes. I don't want to hear people having fun, I want to hear commentary. Granted, a lot of ppl, including HSC have good casters involved, but that doesn't mean I get what I want out of their commentary. Wolf I believe to be a pretty decent caster, and Montecristo as well, so I think that their casting desk (minus mOOnGLaDe who doesn't do anything for me) is pretty enjoyable to listen to. Although I've never liked Wolf's voice (as far as professional commentary is concerned, he seems like a cool guy and easy to be friends with), I still listen to to his commentary and not mute it. As far as Artosis is concerned, ESPECIALLY when casting with Tasteless, I'll listen to him between games, and not during games. They cram my ears with so many worthless things that I don't care about at all that I tend to mute them from time to time. Artosis without Tasteless is pretty decent though. Not anywhere near the level of a football caster though. eSports isn't there yet, and with current trends, people who watch eSports don't seem to watch footballesc casters. I do, but it seems most people don't, and so I won't really be satisfied and I'll listen to my music while watching games ^_^ | ||
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Requiem-
Uruguay162 Posts
the thing is US to SC2 is not US to football. If u want an even match compare Korean cast with South america champions cast. ofc their are both super hype. But in the end its because what the casters say in SC2 matter and need understanding in Football the caster cant say that much about the build(Formation ) just that they will attack/defend more On June 24 2014 08:43 Doodsmack wrote: You do need to factor in the differences between the games being played into your opinion of the casting quality...a soccer game is not going to have the same level hype because of the length and pace of the game... the lack of strong players help + the fact that some are injured. Still I dk if because its my national team but Uruguay has a lot of things going in our games | ||
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submarine
Germany290 Posts
On June 24 2014 10:12 Shinta) wrote: It's funny how much I utterly agree and disagree with what you have to say. I totally despise fake hype as well. WC commentary can be emotional, but all football commentary can be... Like the OP said, the English commentary is not really emotional, so I don't think that's a valid point. SC2 casting is way too much nonsense and way too little hype. There are a few good casters (I find there too be much less than everyone else though, just because of my standards in what I want to hear from commentary), but way too many of them don't do what I believe to be their job well enough. HSC has "fun" casting, and everyone thinks highly of it, but I still had it on mute most of the time, just because I value other sounds sometimes. I don't want to hear people having fun, I want to hear commentary. Granted, a lot of ppl, including HSC have good casters involved, but that doesn't mean I get what I want out of their commentary. Wolf I believe to be a pretty decent caster, and Montecristo as well, so I think that their casting desk (minus mOOnGLaDe who doesn't do anything for me) is pretty enjoyable to listen to. Although I've never liked Wolf's voice (as far as professional commentary is concerned, he seems like a cool guy and easy to be friends with), I still listen to to his commentary and not mute it. As far as Artosis is concerned, ESPECIALLY when casting with Tasteless, I'll listen to him between games, and not during games. They cram my ears with so many worthless things that I don't care about at all that I tend to mute them from time to time. Artosis without Tasteless is pretty decent though. Not anywhere near the level of a football caster though. eSports isn't there yet, and with current trends, people who watch eSports don't seem to watch footballesc casters. I do, but it seems most people don't, and so I won't really be satisfied and I'll listen to my music while watching games ^_^ Sorry, I did not clearly really make my point about HSC casting, and you misunderstood me. What I liked in HSC casting was not the goofy humor. I prefer the less emotional and more analytical approach to casting mostly offered by European ex pros or current pros. You can actually learn something from watching Socke and Harstem cast a PvP even as a diamond+ player. The common caster instead calls out totally obvious stuff and tries to sell excitement. At least for me that does not really work with a computer game. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
Football is easy to understand and you don't need to have it interpreted to you by a commentator. I think the best commentators understand this and leave room for you to enjoy the ambiance and the crowd noises. | ||
phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On June 21 2014 06:01 Nebuchad wrote: It applies to french and swiss broadcasts though. Watch the italian broadcast. Or BBC (which is what I do since I barely understand italian) | ||
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Hider
Denmark9377 Posts
Typically it's only fun to watch when you have a relationship to some of the players/the teams. Just watching random teams play is generally unfun, unlike Sc2, that often times produce relatively entertaining games with unknown players (though ofc I still prefer watching my favourites in Sc2 as well). | ||
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aerlins
Austria4 Posts
On June 24 2014 07:44 Penguinator wrote: You absolutely can explain the basics of SC2 to someone in 5 minutes. "Use workers to gather resources, use resources to make buildings and then produce an army to go kill the opponents' buildings and army." A bronze level player can still watch SC2 and enjoy it without understanding all of the deep intricacies that go unnoticed to them. this is way to basic to explain a RTS game to someone that has absolutely no idea about RTS games at all. I could say, "only using ur feets u have to shoot the ball in the enemies goal", and even someone with absolutely no idea about soccer would be able to understand this basic sentence.... Anyway, a bronze leage player, that played like 100 games, has still a way deeper knowledge about sc2 then the average person watching soccer has about soccer. Fact is, a big majority of the people watching sc2 know a lot about the game, probably have played it before.....the average person watching world cup, doesn t even watch soccer all year long. | ||
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