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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3360 Posts
June 21 2014 11:24 GMT
#61
What? Have you ever watched an Italian or a South American casting of the world cup? It s crazy man!
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Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
June 21 2014 11:34 GMT
#62
I actually watch or listen (even better) to the World Cup matches just so I can hear the Dutch commentators freak out. It's awesome. Listen to some other languages like the Brazilian cast, Dutch cast or German cast and you'll hear the hype you hear from Apollo or Day[9] in football.
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skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
June 21 2014 11:40 GMT
#63
Starcraft will never beat the World Cup in passion, I think goal celebrations are the reason I got into the sport. I think that a highly defensive sport is good because then it makes that one goal really valuable, and it fires passion in the enemy team because just that one goal could be the game.

Also, offsides exist because you can literally kick the ball from one side of the court to the other.
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GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
June 21 2014 11:44 GMT
#64
Oh look people have different tastes! what a surprise! i love Football and Starcraft :p
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SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
June 21 2014 11:57 GMT
#65
On June 21 2014 06:33 nkr wrote:


I wish some caster would be this intense when someone puts down an early pool

Tiziano Crudeli, one of the most epic italian commentator... LOL

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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 21 2014 12:04 GMT
#66
Tbh if the game itself does a good job creating excitement, you don't really have to hype it up forcefully.
bigbadgreen
Profile Joined October 2010
United States142 Posts
June 21 2014 12:43 GMT
#67
I prefer a more laid back style of commentating that is evident by the US WC casters. I don't need people constantly talking and yelling the entire time. I know enough of what's going on that the calmer approach during the majority of the match is what I want. When things get tense then they raise their casting to that level and it works great. I think SC2 casters are a bit too over eager in their approach. A lot of time what seems like commentary is just a raised voice level or faster commentating saying exactly what is happening on screen. Yes I see how the lings are positioned, thanks for screaming it to me.

I think a major advantage for the WC and other sports for that matter is the scale and ability to see the majority of the playing surface in the screen shot at once. I don't think you can solve this issue. While in football you can get a rough idea of what's going on at all times anywhere on the field, in SC2 the size of the maps to units would make you lose track if they zoomed to that same size.

Overall I think sc2 casting has come a long way, but it has a long way to go to maximize it's potential. You also have to take into account the time and money lead that other sports have. The broadcasts are more polished because they have the resources to dedicate to making it polished. The size of crews involved, and the equipment involved is mind blowing.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
June 21 2014 12:55 GMT
#68
Thats not a fair assessment. It depends a lot on which channel and which country.

For example, you are right that ESPN soccer's commentary is terrible, but those from Sky Sport or StarSport Asia are pretty decent. Also theres a lot more of stats, tidbits and trivia in football than that in sc2, thus casters who do their homework surely entertain you better. Meanwhile, the like of Moletrap back in the day didnt know jack about the GSL he was casting.

Still theres one thing in common: Korean casters in SC & Brazilian/Spanish ones in football. Holyhell I dont understand shit about what they are spitting but Im definitely excited and into the game. Also back in the day some channels used to have a special sound effect whenever one team scores, like a circus sound with twisted team name iirc. Pretty awesome
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
June 21 2014 13:08 GMT
#69
Finnish tv's casting is pretty good
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urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
June 21 2014 13:10 GMT
#70
Husky sounds like a tame lamb compared to these guys:

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TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1969 Posts
June 21 2014 13:12 GMT
#71
European soccer casters are much better than what you get in the USA.
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dNa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany591 Posts
June 21 2014 13:15 GMT
#72
I feel like german commentators do a very good job switching between hype and analysis as well..
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Hangman89
Profile Joined May 2013
Singapore43 Posts
June 21 2014 13:17 GMT
#73
On June 21 2014 12:26 Roswell wrote:
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On June 21 2014 10:46 Swift118 wrote:
On June 21 2014 09:08 Roswell wrote:
Football is only the most popular sport, because its the easiest and cheapest to play. Not because it is the "beautiful game." How exciting to watch people pass a ball around for 90 minutes. The defenders advantage is such a buzzkill. It would be like if in Basketball you were only allowed to bring 3 players past your half court.


Basketball seems like a brainless sport where people run up and down a court making horrible noises with their trainers.

We can all make stupid posts about things we know next to nothing about.

I was first team all state as a midfielder, granted I probably wasnt good enough to make a starter in college but I know plenty about football. The game would be better without offsides being a penalty. Would get rid of some of that stupendous defenders advantage. You basically cant burn someone one on one past college.

When you have an average of 2.3 goals scored per game, (world cup,) you have a high majority of games that end with one bad call or no call, which results in a free kick. So all that effort 90+ mins goes to waste because of a questionable call. I mean hell, the first game of this world cup was decided by a brazil player diving. And not only that if the game results in a tie, you simply do penalty kicks and remove anything resembling a team sport to a simple mechanical skill. Imagine if Basketball at the end of a tie was decided by whoever couldnt make the next free throw loses.

And perhaps the worst part of football is their is no coaching during the game, besides calling a sub, you have 15 minutes during half time to go over things. American Football the coach is probably the single biggest factor besides having a great QB. There are no plays in soccer other than positional battles. Basketball has 200+ plays, soccer has "give and go"? Free kick and Corners? Football is amazing because it has basically zero commercials and is by far imo the best sport for schools. But MLS and Premiere is so boring, remove offsides and you have a better game.


I dont know what game you are watching or claiming to have played, but it sure as hell is not football.
Zprit
Profile Joined July 2013
92 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-21 13:20:40
June 21 2014 13:18 GMT
#74
I don't agree, at least not here in sweden where most of the WC commentators are really good. Fotball is also more exiting imo, in SC you can kinda tell who's winning at any given moment by looking at supply, army size, upgrades, tech etc. and it's kinda hard to "play better" with what currently you have to eek out a win. In football the game can turn on an instant if one team pull of a great "attack". It's also symmetrical so it takes away the entire Protoss OP, Zerg OP, Taeja OP you often get you often get while watching SC2 games and someone wins (which comes with the asymmetrical nature of the game, we need more high level TvT though).
Ardias
Profile Joined January 2014
Russian Federation609 Posts
June 21 2014 13:22 GMT
#75
Ofc it depends on the country, but speaking of mine, even Russian SC2 casters (whom I particularly don't like) are better then Russian football commentators in my opinion... so I'll partly agree with OP.
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Vertigro
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom261 Posts
June 21 2014 13:27 GMT
#76
Gotta say, this is completely irrelevant/straight up wrong from a British perspective
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Ender985
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain910 Posts
June 21 2014 13:30 GMT
#77
I have to agree. I'm used to the Spanish casting of football, and the BBC English cast gets me on my nerves. They have seconds of simply silence, as if they just gave up commenting. It is flat out terrible.
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fmod
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Cayman Islands330 Posts
June 21 2014 13:34 GMT
#78
I think sc2 casters need to be more technical and just overall inform the watchers more, because often, especially to new players, it's not obvious at all what's happening in the game and who has the advantage. Football is much more popular and much more obvious as to who is winning, the side that's able to make scoring opportunities is often on the advantage.
Also, football matches last for a full 90 minutes along with half-time and stuff, so it's hard to keep up the chatter and excitement all game long.
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submarine
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany290 Posts
June 21 2014 13:42 GMT
#79
What i despise is fake hype. Especially fake hype delivered seriously.
WC commentary can be emotional because it really is exiting for a caster to comment on his national team. This is believable and does not seem fake to me.
SC2 casting on the other hand can be cringeworthy. Stop tanking yourself so seriously. Who the fuck thought wearing suits to comment on two nerds playing a videogame against each other would be a good idea?
In the last days I have seen a lot of german WC coverage. Very seldom do I see ties in this footage.
There is a reason for that. Formal and serious is not fun. People watch the WC for fun.

The best SC2 casting I have seen was at HSC. The casting there is less "professional". There is a lot more real humor and at the same time there is often more real insight offered. The players and casters alike are more real and try less to imitate TV sport casts targeted at wider audiences. They do not try to fake emotions as much.
The worst offenders in my opinion are the English proleague casters apart from moonglade.
aerlins
Profile Joined January 2014
Austria4 Posts
June 21 2014 14:07 GMT
#80
you can not compare most sports with sc2.

How many people watching the world cup, are playing soccer by themselfes or have at least in the near past? And how much of the people watching sc2 streams are playing sc2 themself activly?

Next difference is, sc2 is way way way more complex then soccer, basicly u can tell anyone in 5 minutes the most important things of soccer and he can allready watch and understand whats going on in a soccer game....try that for sc2, wouldn t work, aber 5 minutes of explanations the person would still have absolutely no clue whats goin on in a sc2 game.

I wrote a post yesterday about how i think a lot of casters are not doing very well in knowing the game. And i still think this is true. A full time caster has to at least have the knowledge of a masters zerg, terran and protoss players since it maybe takes like 2 hours a day average on practice and informing yourself to be on that level. I just want to mention some good examples of casters in terms of knowledge, day9, apollo, wolf, rotterdam....

I don t want any super deep analysis in games, but at least proper knowledge, i think artosis was the best caster some years ago, nowadways if feels like hes playing and casting too many other games.
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