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julianto
2292 Posts
By having just one player dedicate to macro, the other player(s) can specialize in micro. I think this will make playing the game more fun, because macroing is not as fun to do as microing. If you specialize in one thing, you'll be better at it than if you had to balance your time between micro and macro. It'll be more fun for casuals. Also, when spectating, we'd almost always see army(s) moving around and doing something. Do you like this idea? | ||
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-HuShang-
Canada393 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45167 Posts
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LtCalley
United States244 Posts
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aerlins
Austria4 Posts
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sM.Zik
Canada2550 Posts
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
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Knatterking
Germany405 Posts
I think watching high level games wouldn't be as different. Progamers are already pretty decent at multitasking. For example if you have a person just focussing on doing a drop, that person can make the most of it. So that will probably just increase the overall level of play, but not really change the game as it is. Besides that, for me personally the difficulty of multitasking has always been part of the fun. I just like to have the maximum control over my games. I like being the single person responsible for losing and not being able to call someone else a n00b. However, I don't want to spoil this for you, it's just my two cents. Good luck, have fun. | ||
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varsovie
Canada326 Posts
In BW we had a lot of 2V3 between progamers and "fans". Maybe some 1v1, but one team having 2-3 players to compensate might be fun to watch, at least in a "bronze league hero" format. | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On June 21 2014 02:44 -HuShang- wrote: There are micro/macro maps in the arcade where one player macros and the other player micros although at the pro level players dont need to sacrifice micro for macro too often. Except you actually play worse because it doesn't flow as well. For example, a zerg will control-click eggs when they make units to add it to their control group, or protosses can box units when they warp in to add to their control group. In Micro/macro maps you can't do that because somebody else is producing for you, and it slows you down a lot. Also other things like putting down pylons when a protoss wants to get aggressive, it's just easier to do it yourself than to communicate where you want it to be placed | ||
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julianto
2292 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
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purakushi
United States3301 Posts
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Suohhen
United States59 Posts
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M.R. McThundercrotch
United States265 Posts
Seriously, you could have some awesome games. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19299 Posts
On June 22 2014 15:32 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote: Man, imagine a round of this in a team league? MMA on micro with Innovation on macro. Parting on micro with Rain on macro. Maru on micro with SoS on macro. Fantasy on micro with...literally anyone on macro (someone help this man). MKP on micro and Byun also on micro, doing nothing but cheese builds. If we're talking Brood War then you could have Flash play Jaedong and give each of them two computers. Seriously, you could have some awesome games. If you want to go BW, BeSt macro Bisu micro. | ||
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
 Bomber (macro) & MarineKingPrime (micro) vs Flash (macro) & TY (micro)Lots of practice games so they are coherent in the games concept and comfortable doing it rather than awkward and off balance | ||
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Zaphid
Czech Republic1860 Posts
On June 22 2014 16:13 Orcasgt24 wrote: TvT Bomber (macro) & MarineKingPrime (micro) vs Flash (macro) & TY (micro)Lots of practice games so they are coherent in the games concept and comfortable doing it rather than awkward and off balance Would still lose to Taeja :D | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
But im remember it being lots of fun in AoE's | ||
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TaShadan
Germany1978 Posts
On June 21 2014 03:05 LtCalley wrote: there was a mode called team-melee in broodwar which is basically what you're describing, except both players have the ability to both macro and micro This + there were micro/macro maps where the micro and macro was split. I think its a good fun map playing with some friends but i doubt that would lead to better pro gaming matches (it was good in BW though for training reasons because BW is mechanically demanding). | ||
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quirinus
Croatia2489 Posts
On June 22 2014 08:31 sM.Zik wrote: As said above me, this existed in BW. Some pro koreans we're practing 1v2 (2 players controlling the zerg) to simulate how it is to play against Jaedong. Boxer used to practice like this when he was in his prime/upswing, because his team didn't have zergs at that time. So the players of other races played vs him 2v1 team melee like that, to help him train for matches. He said after practicing like that, the zerg people he played 1v1 in the tournaments seemed slow and bad, and he was thinking like "now he will do this and this" and was delighted to see they weren't doing it because they couldn't handle it, so he'd win easily. They were always at least a step behind him. Then he won a bunch of tournaments. I think it's even mentioned in his auto-biographical book (the translation is called "Crazy like me" and is still available somewhere, and the link is posted several times in topics on TL). It's very interesting and fun read, it might interest some of the SC2 people to see how legends are born and grown, to get in the head of some of the champions (for any game, because I think that mindset is shared by most of them, so seeing one described in detail from the inside is a great experience). | ||
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Mongoose
United Kingdom190 Posts
I don't think many top 2v2 players actually do this though, as it adds another level of mechanics that needs to be practised for little benefit. | ||
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M.R. McThundercrotch
United States265 Posts
On June 22 2014 17:45 y0su wrote: I wish the arcade mod worked better. Pulling workers for instance is very tricky when you have to manually change them from macro to micro - this is particularly difficult for SCVs that are harassed while building. The easy solution is to just remove the artificial limitation from the game and let the players manage the roles themselves. This would also add another level of teamwork and communication that would put better teams above better pairs of individual players. Shoot, you could even increase it from just 2 players. Start putting 3 or 4 or 6 players on each side and watch what they can do. Simultaneous attacks and multiple blink armies and all kinds of fun stuff. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On June 23 2014 06:51 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote: The easy solution is to just remove the artificial limitation from the game and let the players manage the roles themselves. This would also add another level of teamwork and communication that would put better teams above better pairs of individual players. Shoot, you could even increase it from just 2 players. Start putting 3 or 4 or 6 players on each side and watch what they can do. Simultaneous attacks and multiple blink armies and all kinds of fun stuff. I'd play :D | ||
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klipik12
United States241 Posts
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spritzz
Canada331 Posts
On June 23 2014 07:36 klipik12 wrote: Couldn't you just... play 2v2 and give each other control? Or better yet, just play straight 2v2/3v3/4v4? The thing with 2v2 shared control is not sharing resource pool. | ||
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Marou
Germany1371 Posts
I was the less skilled player so i was in charge of building farms. A LOT of farms. | ||
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julianto
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Zoar
United States39 Posts
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redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
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