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http://www.ongamers.com/articles/starcraft-players-owed-payments-from-esgn-fight-night-s2/1100-1598/
Following yesterday's onGamers report that ESGN is having financial difficulties and has been unable to pay employees, several professional players have come forth to say that they are also missing payments.
StarCraft 2 players have reportedly not been paid their appearance fee's and prize money for the second season of ESGN Fight Night, including champion Dennis 'HasuObs' Schneider, along with Grubby, White-Ra, Harstem, and Socke.
"I'm owed €1,227 ($1,669) for Season 2 and was told on 11th of February that it should go out beginning of March," Manuel 'Grubby' Schenkhuizen told onGamers. "I've asked for clarification on 19th of April and was told it should have been paid already. I can't speculate as to exactly what has gone on, because we've talked to a few different staff members, but payment has not forthcome."
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
Unfortunately not surprising in the least.
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Not surprising tbh. Production seemed pretty ridiculously overdone for nowhere close to enough roi. Just more unpaid people, and I'd guess some of the employees are out even more than the players. Pretty shitty situation all around.
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Shameful but expected. Here's to hoping that something can be done.
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And the downfall of the Starcraft 2 scene continues. New era, new dawn, same old problems. Sad to say it.
If there was any contracts, the best bet would be to seek legal ramifications under contractual law for breach of agreement/contract in accordance with the terms that were signed and agreed upon by both parties (players and the company).
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Somehow I doubt ESGN used very many contracts.
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I am not surprised 
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As long as their employees are not getting paid the player won't get their price money.
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One day the eSports organizations will have all of their money straight.
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Is the esports bubble popping q_q ?
This after NASL.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On May 31 2014 00:19 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
And the downfall of the Starcraft 2 scene continues. New era, new dawn, same old problems. Sad to say it.
This isn't a Starcraft-specific problem. If players are credulous, in any game or any sport, there will be issues with money never being paid out and contracts never existing in the first place. It is a prevalent issue in the SC2 scene, but it is hardly unique to it.
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maybe if they didn't waste money paying pretty girls spinning wheels
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It's a shame cause it was a cool idea, but it doesn't really suprise me.
SC2 doomsayers are just idiotic. A small organisation doing something like this is hardly reflective of the scene itself. Small teams disbanding is the same. When EG, Liquid, GSL, IEM and DH all drop SC2 then you can chat shit about the scene diminishing.
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On May 31 2014 00:36 Larkin wrote:
It's a shame cause it was a cool idea, but it doesn't really suprise me.
SC2 doomsayers are just idiotic. A small organisation doing something like this is hardly reflective of the scene itself. Small teams disbanding is the same. When EG, Liquid, GSL, IEM and DH all drop SC2 then you can chat shit about the scene diminishing.
WCS AM dropping their production was not big news? ^^
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On May 31 2014 00:27 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 00:19 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
And the downfall of the Starcraft 2 scene continues. New era, new dawn, same old problems. Sad to say it.
This isn't a Starcraft-specific problem. If players are credulous, in any game or any sport, there will be issues with money never being paid out and contracts never existing in the first place. It is a prevalent issue in the SC2 scene, but it is hardly unique to it.
I agree with you so far as it not being just a Starcraft problem, but it seems like this kind of situation tends to pop up more frequently in SC2 than other games. The only other game I follow is DotA 2, and I've not once heard of issues of this sort revolving around DotA 2. Fortunately though this is an exception and not the norm. Still though, it has to be tough wondering whether you're ever going to be paid for your work.
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On May 31 2014 00:16 Amui wrote:
Not surprising tbh. Production seemed pretty ridiculously overdone for nowhere close to enough roi. Just more unpaid people, and I'd guess some of the employees are out even more than the players. Pretty shitty situation all around.
They had no revenue at all as far as knowledgeable people could tell.
In any case, this is funny because Sapinda still got money to dump into *cough* launder *cough* their other ventures.
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On May 31 2014 00:27 Incognoto wrote:
Is the esports bubble popping q_q ?
This after NASL.
Considering there's an eSports tournament with fans crowd sourcing over 5 million for the prize pool, I don't think the eSports bubble is popping. At worst you could say the SC2 bubble is popping, but this is just a case of any business getting in way over it's head.
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On May 31 2014 00:38 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 00:36 Larkin wrote:
It's a shame cause it was a cool idea, but it doesn't really suprise me.
SC2 doomsayers are just idiotic. A small organisation doing something like this is hardly reflective of the scene itself. Small teams disbanding is the same. When EG, Liquid, GSL, IEM and DH all drop SC2 then you can chat shit about the scene diminishing. WCS AM dropping their production was not big news? ^^
it was.
then ESL took it up. now it isn't a problem anymore.
aside from the money they owed.
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On May 31 2014 00:50 Wingblade wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 00:27 Incognoto wrote:
Is the esports bubble popping q_q ?
This after NASL. Considering there's an eSports tournament with fans crowd sourcing over 5 million for the prize pool, I don't think the eSports bubble is popping. At worst you could say the SC2 bubble is popping, but this is just a case of any business getting in way over it's head.
Oh, my bad, that's what I meant. Is the SC2 bubble popping? NASL didn't sustain itself and now this thing whatever it is (don't watch anything other than GSL) didn't sustain itself either. MLG pulled out of SC2 and won't be coming back afaik.
I'm questioning whether or not WCS is profitable to either ESL or Blizzard as well.
I don't know what to think. I'd say the GSL is safe because it's been working for a while now (prior to SC2's release, no?) and I think they've got themselves covered. However ESL/Blizzard/MLG/NASL are/were trying to play SC2 work as an esport outside of Korea and up until now it seems only ESL is still up and running? You also have the Dreamhacks and HSCs however they're one time events not something based on a format spread over several weeks.
Just thinking out-loud.
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Canada16217 Posts
On May 31 2014 00:57 Incognoto wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 00:50 Wingblade wrote:On May 31 2014 00:27 Incognoto wrote:
Is the esports bubble popping q_q ?
This after NASL. Considering there's an eSports tournament with fans crowd sourcing over 5 million for the prize pool, I don't think the eSports bubble is popping. At worst you could say the SC2 bubble is popping, but this is just a case of any business getting in way over it's head. Oh, my bad, that's what I meant. Is the SC2 bubble popping? NASL didn't sustain itself and now this thing whatever it is (don't watch anything other than GSL) didn't sustain itself either. MLG pulled out of SC2 and won't be coming back afaik. I'm questioning whether or not WCS is profitable to either ESL or Blizzard as well. I don't know what to think. I'd say the GSL is safe because it's been working for a while now (prior to SC2's release, no?) and I think they've got themselves covered. However ESL/Blizzard/MLG/NASL are/were trying to play SC2 work as an esport outside of Korea and up until now it seems only ESL is still up and running? You also have the Dreamhacks and HSCs however they're one time events not something based on a format spread over several weeks. Just thinking out-loud.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_MLG_Anaheim
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