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Stoli
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada173 Posts
May 22 2014 10:50 GMT
#201
GL with DotA, and welcome to the scene. Keep in mind the angry vocal people are a tiny percentage of the population.
Twisting joints like a contortionist
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
May 22 2014 10:53 GMT
#202
@Lorch
"hard game" is a completely useless word in every computer-game. Playing against equipollent opponents is far more enjoyable and important! Look Flash without JD, Fantasy & Bisu etc in BW or Moon without Grubby, Sky etc in WC3.

My biggest dislike is sc2-design: 200/200 takes ~2sec fights, buildorder wins, only hardcounter units etc.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
DezembeR
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany1 Post
May 22 2014 10:55 GMT
#203
Most probably won't remember, but BabyKnight played DotA before he made the switch to SC2.
There's even a tribute song dedicated to him by his old captain, Drayich.
Enjoy:

Kosak
Profile Joined August 2013
Czech Republic193 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-22 11:00:51
May 22 2014 11:00 GMT
#204
I suddenly recalled the conversation that we had a month ago when playing CS:GO and I said something like Jon, you gotta try Dota again, I always remember those times of Dota League when I supported your pretty ass playing SF and often cry myself to sleep

Jon said the he cant, that hes a fulltime SC progamer and he cant get addicted to anything else then SC

I just hope that the whole TL wont kill me for that, lets all cheer for Babyknight in Dota because this guy still has it! <3
it's good to be the king
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3711 Posts
May 22 2014 11:01 GMT
#205
On May 22 2014 19:53 Dingodile wrote:
@Lorch
"hard game" is a completely useless word in every computer-game. Playing against equipollent opponents is far more enjoyable and important! Look Flash without JD, Fantasy & Bisu etc in BW or Moon without Grubby, Sky etc in WC3.

My biggest dislike is sc2-design: 200/200 takes ~2sec fights, buildorder wins, only hardcounter units etc.


Maybe to you, not to me. I'd much rather watch Flash without JD/Stork/Bisu in a game as hard as brood war (not it's not useless, brood war is so fucking hard to even makro/micro probably in that just seeing somebody do that properly is really impressive, whereas in star 2 just makroing perfectly is a lot less impressive as it's way easier to do) than having an inferior/easier game like say call of duty with close competition. Games have been continuously dumbed down since the end of the 20th century and that trend is continuing. UT is a dumbed down version of Quake just as SC2 is way easier than BW. Or how fps essentially went from fast past arena games to slow as fuck games like call of duty that reduced aiming to the point of my grandma being able to do it.

Maybe to you a games difficulty is unimportant and you simply care about close competition, for me the joy of watching progamers, in any game, is them doing shit that I can't even imagine doing myself due to the difficulty of the game.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
May 22 2014 11:11 GMT
#206
On May 22 2014 19:08 aka_star wrote:
I too, found myself playing dota2 far more than SC2 ever since HotS came out. Blizzard just don't seem to care enough about SC2 for me to remain interested in it.Its not like there aren't things for Blizzard to improve on the game/bnet, they refuse to dedicate a decent amount of resources to it and I'm tired of their excuses, failed promises and PR dribble.

So Enjoy Dota2 babyknight I support you!

Agree 100%.
OT ->
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was discussing this with a friend recently.

Although it is known that some races are worse in lategame then others even since WoL, there were only small or unreasonable changes made by blizzard. And from patch to patch you can only hope that they finally make a big change.
So the game at first startet to get boring to play and now boring to watch. Be it because of always the same matchups, or because WHEN these matchups happen, there is almost no variation, or - and this bugs me most, there is a boring macro-up phase, one waaaay to fast fight and then its over. More frustrating from a bio terran point of view is, when you watch the terran, that constantly harasses, drops, makes damage while the other player (protoss, zerg and sometimes even terran, so no balance whine intended) leans back and builds his army and walks over the terran with his big lategame army. Be it thx to fungal, blinding cloud, banelinghits or bombs, uncatchable mutas that regen or because of 3 storms - army gone, then walk over with colossi and archons or whatever, or be it bc of the huge mech ball...
I've had enough of blizzards "game is fine, we have 50% winrate", the game just doesn't feel it needs the same effort for every race, and it rewards all-ins too much and therefore the holy grail "randomness" that was so key in the developement prevents from the very best players dominating - which would be what they earn but never get in sc2. Or did we ever get to see a player dominating and winning every tournament he participatet over several months like we saw it in BW, where we called them players "god" or "god of war"?.
I was tired of the constant balance whine, when some races got some abilities, that blizzard will never change, although they clearly need less skill then in BW to make this ability work efficiently. Warpin, Inject, Mule, Chrono (that, as funny as it is, isn't even required to be used in the endgame, but SHOULDN'T it be? Cause it is an awesome ability...but you can win without accelerating building units I guess. So many Nexi always having full engery),Blink (at least in the allins, I don't mind it in "normal" play, where it is necessary for the toss (e.g. in fight against fee units spawners like BL or SH). Brood Loards and SH and Fungal Change (whoever watched GSL saw, that if it is used right, it is still extremely powerful...), also no WM anymore but something different, no muta regen (were Mutas UP in WoL?)....


but that is something, that doesn't belong here, and Blizzard won't change it, not even with the addons. Switching races gave me the satisfaction for now (complaining that other races are imba is stupid as long as you don't play the race to the max. But then I am no pro gamer, so switching races helps to get easier wins in leagues beyond GM), and because it is more rewarding/entertaining for a period of time, I understand the switch of a race or even a game and with Babyknight, who I always enjoyed watching,(and that is even though it is the race I found least entertaining to watch, mind you), and hope he enjoys Dota2. Cause If he wan'ts to be a Pro there, he will play it several hours a day, for several months or years even - and therefore I hope what he does for several months or years, he really enjoys.

And IF there are major changes in the Protoss-Addon, and BK comes back, I will gladly welcome him back and watch his games again
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 22 2014 11:21 GMT
#207
Gl BBK
Damn the french dislike you D:
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Dumbledore
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden725 Posts
May 22 2014 11:22 GMT
#208
How come there are no thanks to your team in the OP?
Have you had fights with them or something? .-.
Have a nice day ;)
eurTsItniH
Profile Joined January 2012
887 Posts
May 22 2014 11:22 GMT
#209
Wow that's sad, I thought you were a really likeable guy and not only were you a good player but a good caster as well, which I noticed at HSC. Either way best of luck with Dota, I don't really like the game so I don't really see how I could support you as I don't follow the game, but I certainly hope you will do well. Hopefully you will be back in lotv!
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12535 Posts
May 22 2014 11:36 GMT
#210
On May 22 2014 20:21 GumBa wrote:
Gl BBK
Damn the french dislike you D:


There's a call to arms in the millenium nation wars thread, "come on let's go on TL to stir shit up in the BBK retirement thread!"

Tells more about millenium people than it tells about BBK, honestly.
No will to live, no wish to die
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-22 11:39:09
May 22 2014 11:38 GMT
#211
oh thats sad such a good protoss

and to bad its dota2 ^^ i have a light intrest in lol but dota2 seems to uninteresting so i hope see u back at LOV
gl

On May 22 2014 18:29 TigerKarl wrote:
Everyone knows that SC2 has a very limited amount of being fun to play.


why you have to post such bs dude ? -_-
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14463 Posts
May 22 2014 11:40 GMT
#212
On May 22 2014 20:36 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 20:21 GumBa wrote:
Gl BBK
Damn the french dislike you D:


There's a call to arms in the millenium nation wars thread, "come on let's go on TL to stir shit up in the BBK retirement thread!"

Tells more about millenium people than it tells about BBK, honestly.

Well, we have reasons not to really like him. If you want more infos drop me a PM.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
May 22 2014 11:41 GMT
#213
On May 22 2014 20:40 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 20:36 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 22 2014 20:21 GumBa wrote:
Gl BBK
Damn the french dislike you D:


There's a call to arms in the millenium nation wars thread, "come on let's go on TL to stir shit up in the BBK retirement thread!"

Tells more about millenium people than it tells about BBK, honestly.

Well, we have reasons not to really like him. If you want more infos drop me a PM.

Is it really that bad?
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-22 11:42:41
May 22 2014 11:41 GMT
#214
What i REALLY dont get is the timing

could you at least finish your group in wcs premier and then retire after being out of wcs ? xD

On May 22 2014 20:41 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 20:40 Aeromi wrote:
On May 22 2014 20:36 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 22 2014 20:21 GumBa wrote:
Gl BBK
Damn the french dislike you D:


There's a call to arms in the millenium nation wars thread, "come on let's go on TL to stir shit up in the BBK retirement thread!"

Tells more about millenium people than it tells about BBK, honestly.

Well, we have reasons not to really like him. If you want more infos drop me a PM.

Is it really that bad?


they are frensh ^^ perhaps bbk talked english with them xD they pretty pitty about anything xD
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
devilxking
Profile Joined May 2014
1 Post
May 22 2014 11:43 GMT
#215
The better game with the better money. Good move, good luck.

User was warned for this post
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
May 22 2014 11:43 GMT
#216
On May 22 2014 20:41 Drake wrote:
What i REALLY dont get is the timing

could you at least finish your group in wcs premier and then retire after being out of wcs ? xD


I will play my WCS matches while I'm still part of the system, but if/once I'm knocked completely out (of Challenger) you probably won't be seeing me play StarCraft II for quite some time.


He'll play it out
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
May 22 2014 11:50 GMT
#217
On May 22 2014 17:40 AyaaLa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 15:56 Elizar wrote:
On May 22 2014 15:40 RandomPlayer wrote:
dota is such a terrible stupid game for kids...


Nope, it is a great game just crowded by too many "terrible stupid kids".


The same goes for SC2 too...

edit: sad to see another player go.. hmm, will millenium try to find a replacement? i would guess so.

That would be a good idea, the best non-Terran player actually is YoGo.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
May 22 2014 11:52 GMT
#218
--- Nuked ---
GreenMash
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
May 22 2014 11:55 GMT
#219
On May 22 2014 20:50 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 17:40 AyaaLa wrote:
On May 22 2014 15:56 Elizar wrote:
On May 22 2014 15:40 RandomPlayer wrote:
dota is such a terrible stupid game for kids...


Nope, it is a great game just crowded by too many "terrible stupid kids".


The same goes for SC2 too...

edit: sad to see another player go.. hmm, will millenium try to find a replacement? i would guess so.

That would be a good idea, the best non-Terran player actually is YoGo.

Really? What's Adel up to these days?
I love hellbats
Dtogi
Profile Joined August 2013
France17 Posts
May 22 2014 11:58 GMT
#220
On May 22 2014 20:55 GreenMash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 20:50 Boucot wrote:
On May 22 2014 17:40 AyaaLa wrote:
On May 22 2014 15:56 Elizar wrote:
On May 22 2014 15:40 RandomPlayer wrote:
dota is such a terrible stupid game for kids...


Nope, it is a great game just crowded by too many "terrible stupid kids".


The same goes for SC2 too...

edit: sad to see another player go.. hmm, will millenium try to find a replacement? i would guess so.

That would be a good idea, the best non-Terran player actually is YoGo.

Really? What's Adel up to these days?


Adel, Heartstone, and sometimes Heartstone.

We always wait for a statement from Millenium...
team-aaa.com staff / @TogiSC2
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