• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 12:01
CET 18:01
KST 02:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket12Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge1[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA12
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t GM / Master map hacker and general hacking and cheating thread
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened
Brood War
General
A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft Data analysis on 70 million replays [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile [Game] Osu! Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Clair Obscur - Expedition 33
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1933 users

A tough decision. (BabyKnight retires) - Page 10

Forum Index > SC2 General
332 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 17 Next All
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
May 22 2014 09:29 GMT
#181
Everyone knows that SC2 has a very limited amount of being fun to play.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3751 Posts
May 22 2014 09:35 GMT
#182
En Taro Adun, Great Son of Aiur.
Manijak
Profile Joined October 2010
Slovenia112 Posts
May 22 2014 09:37 GMT
#183
GL in Dota2.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4137 Posts
May 22 2014 09:45 GMT
#184
On May 22 2014 18:29 TigerKarl wrote:
Everyone knows that SC2 has a very limited amount of being fun to play.

Pretty much this. Main reason to have motivation to play this game is attending tournaments. Prime Example is IdrA.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3751 Posts
May 22 2014 09:52 GMT
#185
On May 22 2014 18:22 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 15:50 ZachFreeman wrote:
On May 22 2014 15:45 BakedButters wrote:
I hope you come back to SC2. Always sad when a programer leaves the scene. Dota or LoL...pshhh. These casual/lazy games will only momentary satisfy your itch for a little more fame/money.
But SC2, that's where the true challenge lies. It requires heart, dedication

And to live in poverty with 20k prize pools vs 6.2m+ prizepool

The vast majority of Dota players will never get close to the big TI payday, don't act like it's commonplace

The $$ landscape of Dota2 is way more top heavy than SC2.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26092 Posts
May 22 2014 09:53 GMT
#186
On May 22 2014 18:45 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 18:29 TigerKarl wrote:
Everyone knows that SC2 has a very limited amount of being fun to play.

Pretty much this. Main reason to have motivation to play this game is attending tournaments. Prime Example is IdrA.

Why do people trot out these lines as some immutable factual truth?

People are all different you know? Idra never really seemed to enjoy the game, but his competitive spirit kept him playing despite that and I'm sure he's not alone. I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility to think that some pros actually enjoy the game though. :p
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
HighdraL1sk
Profile Joined April 2012
United States140 Posts
May 22 2014 09:58 GMT
#187
glhf mtfbwy (may the force be with you)
Coppii
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway57 Posts
May 22 2014 10:02 GMT
#188
Good luck in Dota! Hope you do well!
Ad astra per aspera
Hyge
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland138 Posts
May 22 2014 10:04 GMT
#189
Thats a good decision. Starcraft has a limited time left and koreans are fkin everywhere making tournaments boring. Good luck.
I play 1v1 SC2 because I've heard there are people who are currently better than I - and that pisses me off.
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
May 22 2014 10:05 GMT
#190
Good luck man, you always surprised me with your Sc2 results (because I wasn't very impressed with the dota (hon? dunno) games I saw from you. I thought you were a mediocre player but you proved me wrong many times. Good decision, I hope you'll find friends/satisfaction/success and fun in no particular order. Try to keep the manner from the Sc scene when dipping into the hellhole that is moba trashtalk
11 years and counting- TL #680
aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
May 22 2014 10:08 GMT
#191
I too, found myself playing dota2 far more than SC2 ever since HotS came out. Blizzard just don't seem to care enough about SC2 for me to remain interested in it.Its not like there aren't things for Blizzard to improve on the game/bnet, they refuse to dedicate a decent amount of resources to it and I'm tired of their excuses, failed promises and PR dribble.

So Enjoy Dota2 babyknight I support you!
FlashDave.999 aka Star
VinceNet
Profile Joined November 2011
Switzerland5 Posts
May 22 2014 10:15 GMT
#192
king of dota-league is back!?
CCow
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany335 Posts
May 22 2014 10:16 GMT
#193
I will miss seeing you in SC2 tournaments.

Anyway, good luck with Dota2. Will be cheering for you there, then! : ]
insitelol
Profile Joined August 2012
845 Posts
May 22 2014 10:19 GMT
#194
On May 22 2014 19:04 Hyge wrote:
Thats a good decision. Starcraft has a limited time left and koreans are fkin everywhere making tournaments boring. Good luck.

Actually, koreans are what makes tournaments interesting.
Wishing BK to achieve success in Dota (though i have absolutely 0 interest in MOBA). As for me, i see this foreign scene shrinking thing as something inevitable and logical. This game is meant to be played by koreans. There always will be a few Stephanos and Naniwas here and there to amuse us. But overall, whatching tournaments w/o decent koreans is the most boring thing (including WCS EU/AM).
Less is more.
johax
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden165 Posts
May 22 2014 10:21 GMT
#195
who is babyknight

User was warned for this post
Sjokola
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands800 Posts
May 22 2014 10:22 GMT
#196
Noooo I was cheering for you. And I don't watch dota. But good luck anyway.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
May 22 2014 10:26 GMT
#197
Rough. Best of luck.
Administrator
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3686 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-22 10:47:35
May 22 2014 10:42 GMT
#198
On May 22 2014 18:29 TigerKarl wrote:
Everyone knows that SC2 has a very limited amount of being fun to play.


I really really don't get this. Personally, I really really enjoy playing a somewhat hard game (though fairly easy compared to bw) with a skill gap that you'll probably never reach. Starcraft 2 has been my favourite game to play for over 2 years now and I often find myself not playing other games/finishing singleplayer games because I just end up playing starcraft. By no means am I pro and I don't even play in online tournaments, I simply enjoy constantly improving in a game that puts all responsibility on myself. Especially given that nowadays most games are made to be as accessible for newbies as possible (or how I like to call it made so your grandma can be good at it) I just really appreciate how hard starcraft is if you don't have any experience in bw/war3. I think hots is far better and more fun to play than wol and I find mobas to be very unfun to play for several reasons.

So you might wanna be careful with the word everyone, as there are plenty of people who genuinely enjoy playing star 2. I think it's more of a matter of people preferring team games and not being able to deal with the pressure that comes with playing 1 v 1. I mean 1 v 1 games have always been less popular than team games, kinda how 5 v 5 CS ended up being way more popular than 1 v 1 Quake.

Also I really don't understand all the foreigner vs korean crap. I couldn't care less about someones ethical background, jesus I watch pro gamers because I wanna be blown away by how good they are, not by them speaking English or being funny on camera. Koreans work the hardest and put in the most amount of time while showing the highest quality of games so they deserve to be in the dominant position they are in. I personally prefer watching whoever shows the best games not who has the same skin color as I.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
May 22 2014 10:45 GMT
#199
gl in dota and in RL ofc.
btw: did you try to switch races? After I switched I found SC2 way more entertaining again
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
May 22 2014 10:48 GMT
#200
Good luck in Dota. GL with getting a good team together.
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 17 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 14h 30m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 142
BRAT_OK 80
MindelVK 14
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 46362
Calm 4295
Rain 2364
EffOrt 887
BeSt 626
Mini 626
Stork 589
Light 483
firebathero 291
ZerO 220
[ Show more ]
hero 147
Rush 116
Leta 77
Sharp 62
Mind 55
scan(afreeca) 42
Backho 34
ToSsGirL 31
Pusan 27
Terrorterran 13
HiyA 11
JulyZerg 11
ivOry 5
Dota 2
Gorgc7353
qojqva2291
Dendi701
League of Legends
rGuardiaN35
Other Games
singsing1553
FrodaN1470
B2W.Neo960
hiko706
crisheroes418
Mlord374
Lowko344
DeMusliM265
QueenE102
Sick86
XaKoH 62
Trikslyr40
ZerO(Twitch)20
Dewaltoss9
RotterdaM0
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream25287
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
• intothetv
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4483
• WagamamaTV377
• Ler81
League of Legends
• Nemesis4681
• Jankos1603
• TFBlade1165
Other Games
• Shiphtur71
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
14h 30m
Classic vs MaxPax
SHIN vs Reynor
herO vs Maru
WardiTV Korean Royale
19h
SC Evo League
19h 30m
IPSL
1d
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
OSC
1d
BSL 21
1d 3h
TerrOr vs Aeternum
HBO vs Kyrie
RSL Revival
1d 14h
Wardi Open
1d 21h
IPSL
2 days
StRyKeR vs OldBoy
Sziky vs Tarson
BSL 21
2 days
StRyKeR vs Artosis
OyAji vs KameZerg
[ Show More ]
OSC
2 days
OSC
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
OSC
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-16
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.