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Key Information
Host: KeSPA
When: September 12 to September 14
Prize Money: 80,000,000 KRW (1st Place: 30,000,000 KRW)
WCS Points on Offer: 7000 (Tier One)
Who: Proleague Top 2 Players, GSL/WCS EU/WCS NA Top 2 seeded into Ro16. Other 8 participants TBD through qualifiers.
The KeSPA Cup was formerly a Brood War team tournament last held in 2007 where professional teams would play in a knockout format to determine the cup championship.
Note that the KeSPA Cup will be the second tournament to hold the distinction of being a 'Tier One' event, following IEM Katowice.
Source: PGR21
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Qualifiers go 4 from KR/TW server and 2 each from EU and NA. I think?
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On May 21 2014 15:34 digmouse wrote:
SPOTV or OGN?
Unannounced, but most likely SPOTV due to OGN being occupied with LoL and Worlds.
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Whoa this is just awesome! Nice prize pool and we'll see some amazing players and equally amazing games
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awesome, hopefully this goes better than the disappointing GSL Global Championship
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Australia54784 Posts
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"Proleague Top 2 Players" is my favorite part. Also potential Flash/Jaedong thing that everyone will certainly be hoping for. ಥ⌣ಥ
Also, like, does this mean SC2 is doing kind of well in Korea? It's a lot of money to throw back in. I guess what I'm trying to ask is, is this a big blow-out to try and get attention, or do they actually see it being worthwhile to even maybe continue yearly?
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Awesome! :D Will top 2 proleague players be the players with most wins over all of the 4 rounds?
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Omg this is awesome! ALIVE GAME!!!! :D
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On May 21 2014 15:44 ZombieGrub wrote:
"Proleague Top 2 Players" is my favorite part. Also potential Flash/Jaedong thing that everyone will certainly be hoping for. ಥ⌣ಥ
Also, like, does this mean SC2 is doing kind of well in Korea? It's a lot of money to throw back in. I guess what I'm trying to ask is, is this a big blow-out to try and get attention, or do they actually see it being worthwhile to even maybe continue yearly?
I think SC2 is definitely on the rise in Korea. If you look at the average size of the audience for Proleague now compared to this time a year ago, it's gotten much larger.
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wtf this is like beyond tier 1, its going to be sososososossososososo stacked
edit @above yea, despite being an EG fanboy, i was never this into proleague last year even with EG-TL in it. 3 weeks until round 4 T__T
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$0$ will take it in an anticlimatic fashion, i call it!
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Canada16217 Posts
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Sounds cool ^^ Wonder where they are going to have it. I just hope there are plenty of Terrans.
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Siiiiick.
Pity we have to wait till September for this 
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Awww yeaaaaah. More awesome Tournaments in Korea
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On May 21 2014 15:44 ZombieGrub wrote:
"Proleague Top 2 Players" is my favorite part. Also potential Flash/Jaedong thing that everyone will certainly be hoping for. ಥ⌣ಥ
Also, like, does this mean SC2 is doing kind of well in Korea? It's a lot of money to throw back in. I guess what I'm trying to ask is, is this a big blow-out to try and get attention, or do they actually see it being worthwhile to even maybe continue yearly?
I my humble estimation and opinion I would say that with the new proleague having decent numbers and more fans showing up to the live events there's a good chance it's worth their while. And SC2 being the only major RTS game around in combination with the huge legacy? It would all but make sense.
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Germany3367 Posts
I think it is determined by the number of wins, but only in the regular rounds - playoffs don't count. In Liquipedia playoff matches are included in the ranking.
Awesome stuff by KeSPA, glad they are so invested into SC2. =)
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Ok Creator, time to win in PL again
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On May 21 2014 15:47 laaaaaaaamee wrote:
wtf this is like beyond tier 1, its going to be sososososossososososo stacked
edit @above yea, despite being an EG fanboy, i was never this into proleague last year even with EG-TL in it. 3 weeks until round 4 T__T
I feel like the WiNnovation proleague playoffs was the most I've been into proleague though which I think was last year? Proleague is great now a days too though so it's all good for me.
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Yeah this would be my best guess. Too many people could end up on the same wins. Internal ranking would be a much more accurate/fair way to doing it.
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On May 21 2014 15:46 Penguinator wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 15:44 ZombieGrub wrote:
"Proleague Top 2 Players" is my favorite part. Also potential Flash/Jaedong thing that everyone will certainly be hoping for. ಥ⌣ಥ
Also, like, does this mean SC2 is doing kind of well in Korea? It's a lot of money to throw back in. I guess what I'm trying to ask is, is this a big blow-out to try and get attention, or do they actually see it being worthwhile to even maybe continue yearly? I think SC2 is definitely on the rise in Korea. If you look at the average size of the audience for Proleague now compared to this time a year ago, it's gotten much larger.
Yep, when I went to see PL last year it was pretty bad.
Can't wait for my next trip to see some more PL matches!
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Well who really wants to watch in a PC bang right?
The new venue was a good move
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So apparently, the region who did the worst job in hosting Season Finals last year is hosting them all this year, because the other ones won't take the initiative.
Good work, Kespa. Hopefully a foreigner qualifies this time.
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On May 21 2014 15:34 digmouse wrote:
SPOTV or OGN?
BreAKerTV.
Just kidding.
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Will it be held in nexon arena?
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Korea needs this, nice to see.
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Northern Ireland25375 Posts
On May 21 2014 17:17 Circumstance wrote:
So apparently, the region who did the worst job in hosting Season Finals last year is hosting them all this year, because the other ones won't take the initiative.
Good work, Kespa. Hopefully a foreigner qualifies this time.
What? :S
Great stuff, especially rewarding Proleague performances with opportunities for individual honours which is something I love to see. More tournaments in Korea is something I feel is crucial for the financial stability of the scene long term, the overheads involved with flying Koreans out everywhere must have an affect on finances and prize pools.
For all its reputation, I have been quite impressed with Kespa's entry into SC2.
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Can anyone inform me , SPOTV is a cable channel , a stream channel , or a open TV channel ?
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On May 21 2014 18:32 Thyrym wrote:
Can anyone inform me , SPOTV is a cable channel , a stream channel , or a open TV channel ?
IPTV channel
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On May 21 2014 15:46 Penguinator wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 15:44 ZombieGrub wrote:
"Proleague Top 2 Players" is my favorite part. Also potential Flash/Jaedong thing that everyone will certainly be hoping for. ಥ⌣ಥ
Also, like, does this mean SC2 is doing kind of well in Korea? It's a lot of money to throw back in. I guess what I'm trying to ask is, is this a big blow-out to try and get attention, or do they actually see it being worthwhile to even maybe continue yearly? I think SC2 is definitely on the rise in Korea. If you look at the average size of the audience for Proleague now compared to this time a year ago, it's gotten much larger.
Currently, I am basically only watching Proleague. You get to see a lot of different players, and the players take it really seriously, something I didn't always feel was the case with GSTL. The casters are really good as well.
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Oh ! That is going to be nice !
Lee Yeong Ho vs Lee Jaedong.
Make it happened ! (damn i forgot what's their "lee sang rok" are (lee sang rok is boxer / yellow no ?)
Damn i have a bad memory
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China6329 Posts
On May 21 2014 19:02 FFW_Rude wrote:
Oh ! That is going to be nice !
Lee Yeong Ho vs Lee Jaedong.
Make it happened ! (damn i forgot what's their "lee sang rok" are (lee sang rok is boxer / yellow no ?)
Damn i have a bad memory
Leesangrok (Kanji: 李双录) is Flash vs Jaedong, Boxer vs Yellow is Lim-Jin Rok (Kanji: 林臻录).
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On May 21 2014 18:55 Jeyopo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 18:32 Thyrym wrote:
Can anyone inform me , SPOTV is a cable channel , a stream channel , or a open TV channel ? IPTV channel
Thanks ^^
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On May 21 2014 19:12 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 19:02 FFW_Rude wrote:
Oh ! That is going to be nice !
Lee Yeong Ho vs Lee Jaedong.
Make it happened ! (damn i forgot what's their "lee sang rok" are (lee sang rok is boxer / yellow no ?)
Damn i have a bad memory Leesangrok (Kanji: 李双录) is Flash vs Jaedong, Boxer vs Yellow is Lim-Jin Rok (Kanji: 林臻录).
Ah yeah thank you  Why in Kanji ? There's kanji in Korean as well ? In Hangeul it's 이상록 correct ?
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"Where" missing... Could be outside of Korea? If I'm not wrong they said some months ago that there will be KeSPA tournments not in South Korea.
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On May 21 2014 19:22 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 19:12 digmouse wrote:On May 21 2014 19:02 FFW_Rude wrote:
Oh ! That is going to be nice !
Lee Yeong Ho vs Lee Jaedong.
Make it happened ! (damn i forgot what's their "lee sang rok" are (lee sang rok is boxer / yellow no ?)
Damn i have a bad memory Leesangrok (Kanji: 李双录) is Flash vs Jaedong, Boxer vs Yellow is Lim-Jin Rok (Kanji: 林臻录). Ah yeah thank you Why in Kanji ? There's kanji in Korean as well ?
Kanji is the Japanese adoption of Chinese characters in Japanese script. He probably meant Hanja which is the Korean adoption of Chinese characters in Korean script.
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On May 21 2014 19:24 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 19:22 FFW_Rude wrote:On May 21 2014 19:12 digmouse wrote:On May 21 2014 19:02 FFW_Rude wrote:
Oh ! That is going to be nice !
Lee Yeong Ho vs Lee Jaedong.
Make it happened ! (damn i forgot what's their "lee sang rok" are (lee sang rok is boxer / yellow no ?)
Damn i have a bad memory Leesangrok (Kanji: 李双录) is Flash vs Jaedong, Boxer vs Yellow is Lim-Jin Rok (Kanji: 林臻录). Ah yeah thank you Why in Kanji ? There's kanji in Korean as well ? Kanji is the Japanese adoption of Chinese characters in Japanese script. He probably meant Hanja which is the Korean adoption of Chinese characters in Korean script.
Oh. I thought there was only Hangeul
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On May 21 2014 18:23 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 17:17 Circumstance wrote:
So apparently, the region who did the worst job in hosting Season Finals last year is hosting them all this year, because the other ones won't take the initiative.
Good work, Kespa. Hopefully a foreigner qualifies this time. What? :S Great stuff, especially rewarding Proleague performances with opportunities for individual honours which is something I love to see. More tournaments in Korea is something I feel is crucial for the financial stability of the scene long term, the overheads involved with flying Koreans out everywhere must have an affect on finances and prize pools. For all its reputation, I have been quite impressed with Kespa's entry into SC2.
I agree with Wombat on this. Also, how's it bad that Blizzard keeps putting in the same amount of money as last year (just reordered without the season finals!), and now Kespa and GSL throw money ON TOP of that?
You can look at this tournament like it's the Dreamhack/IEM/RedBull/MLG of Korea. Last year they only had WCS as a point tournament in Korea. Now they have more, and they're open to players around the world. How's this bad for the scene?
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Amazing, so cool to see a great tournament like this appear. It feels like sc2 is doing better in korean than ever.
Edit: Holy shit, if Flash gets top 2 Proleauge and Jaedong top 2 WCS NA, they might meet!!!!!!!!!
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pretty big deal. that means Proleague numbers seem to be quite good. hopefully the times are not too bad for eu/america
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Oh, this sounds promising! :D Can't wait!
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Poland3748 Posts
On May 21 2014 15:47 laaaaaaaamee wrote:
wtf this is like beyond tier 1, its going to be sososososossososososo stacked
edit @above yea, despite being an EG fanboy, i was never this into proleague last year even with EG-TL in it. 3 weeks until round 4 T__T
It will be definitely comparable to IEM WC which is the only T1 tournament this season so far.
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Le hypuuuuu , hoping for some sick terran representative
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I hope they have competent casters/hosts for this event.
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On May 21 2014 21:26 TAMinator wrote:
I hope they have competent casters/hosts for this event.
Meh, give me the best players!
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Jaedong and flash qualifies, my wet dream happen plz!!!!
Kr deserves more than 3 tournaments a year, i hope this become kind of a regular thing
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On May 21 2014 15:51 TheSayo182 wrote:
$0$ will take it in an anticlimatic fashion, i call it!
Depends. If the pot is rather large...
Hope most players don't drop it for other tournaments, like last time.
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United States97276 Posts
sounds great! always love to see more tournaments in Korea
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On May 21 2014 21:26 TAMinator wrote:
I hope they have competent casters/hosts for this event.
Korean casters are always competent
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O.o Wow, this is the sickest thing
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This is really cool! Excited for this!
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nice but all this "this must be above tier 1" guys seems to be korean fanboy ^^
will have pretty much same top16 players like the other tier1 tournaments so ... calm down
nice to see this hope it will be a good casting team in english there... wich means for korea ... TASTETOSIS
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On May 21 2014 21:59 AKAvg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 15:51 TheSayo182 wrote:
$0$ will take it in an anticlimatic fashion, i call it! Depends. If the pot is rather large... Hope most players don't drop it for other tournaments, like last time.
A lot of players dropped out of the GSL GT because the overall prize pool was lower then that of DH Bucharest, which was playing the same weekend. This this tournament will be Tier 1, which means a ton of money and WCS Points and it will most likely be scheduled to not overlap with any other tournament. What I hope for is that we get a lot of the old greats back + some of the new gen guys to slug it out. Mvp, MMA, MC, NesTea, DRG, ForGG against Soulkey, sOs, herO, Innovation, Maru etc.
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Rad.
Who would the players be if this happened right now?
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I'd rather go with top4 SPL, Top2 GSL + top1 EU/NA + open qualifier. Not complain about more Korean tournament though
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I wonder about the qualifiers... will State, Kane, Suppy and Scarlett be eligible?
That could be their chance!
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I'd die for a Jd vs Flash ZvT
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Woo! Nice job Kespa!
This is a great opportunity to see how the western stars do against the Korea stars, which we don't get to see very often... I hope the seeds are determined by recent performance and not lame WCS points.
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Tier1 tournament is huge! This is pretty cool for Korea and the scene in general, and it's nice to see those Proleague spots as well. It would be nice to see a few foreigners sneaking in through WCS or the qualifiers.
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On May 21 2014 15:35 GTR wrote:Unannounced, but most likely SPOTV due to OGN being occupied with LoL and Worlds.
Hopeyfully SPOTV, they're doing a fantastic job.
Also: It may look great to show the prize in korean Won, but personally I believe it's not much value to most people.
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On May 21 2014 21:59 AKAvg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 15:51 TheSayo182 wrote:
$0$ will take it in an anticlimatic fashion, i call it! Depends. If the pot is rather large... Hope most players don't drop it for other tournaments, like last time.
If there is a comparably sized tournaments in Europe money-wise, I am sure a few will chase the "easy" money. Regardless, this tournament sounds awesome.
I really like that KeSPA is taking in those from NA/EU, even if they are mostly just non-KeSPA Koreans =P
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This overlaps with DH Moscow right? I guess the timezones are far enough apart it won't be a huge deal, but still...
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Kespa saw the GSl Global Final and was like "Oh we can top that." Sick stuff.
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did blizzard remove the 100k prizepool as tier1 requirement?
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This is really cool. That's all. I wonder what the English casting team will be, there are a lot of possibilities...
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On May 22 2014 00:26 Dingodile wrote:
did blizzard remove the 100k prizepool as tier1 requirement?
I think it was 60k?
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This is really going to help out SCII in Korea.
If I'm not wrong one of the main woes players in Korea had was that they only had 1 premier individual league tournament (GSL), and basically once you didn't get in or get knocked out you had to wait till next season to try again.
Hopefully more of such competition appear to help korean players get more exposure. This will make it easier for rookies to break through too.
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Perfect timing as well, at least for me! :D
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On May 21 2014 23:45 PVJ wrote:
I'd die for a Jd vs Flash ZvT
Great! Can we please sacrifice you to make it happen?
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NICE!! Really happy to see Kespa organizing a brand new tournament, Korean Starcraft needs and deserves this. Excited!
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Wow, that's pretty huge for a one-off tourney :D
Going to be some amazing games <3
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Great news! More tournaments in Korea is always a good thing.
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So only guaranteed participant is Flash for being top Proleague guy.
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This is amazing! So glad these tourney's are coming in. I feel like SC2 has been getting better and better ever since the WCS finals last year (that got me super back into it anyways).
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On May 22 2014 02:37 RainmanMP wrote:
So only guaranteed participant is Flash for being top Proleague guy.
Your powers of foresight are powerful.
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United States97276 Posts
On May 22 2014 00:31 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 00:26 Dingodile wrote:
did blizzard remove the 100k prizepool as tier1 requirement? I think it was 60k?
It says $75k on liquipedia for tier 1
80 mill KRW is about $78k so it checks out
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Great things for Starcraft! Great things !!!!
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Oh whoa, this is some awesome news to wake up to!! Can't wait to see this, should be some awesome Starcraft!
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On May 22 2014 02:51 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 00:31 Musicus wrote:On May 22 2014 00:26 Dingodile wrote:
did blizzard remove the 100k prizepool as tier1 requirement? I think it was 60k? It says $75k on liquipedia for tier 1 80 mill KRW is about $78k so it checks out
Thanks for the info!
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lol sOs knocked out of Code S today, but hes currently #1 in Proleague statistics so he might still be able to force himself in.
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Moar and moar tournaments please
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omfg so cool
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On May 22 2014 03:10 triforks wrote:
lol sOs knocked out of Code S today, but hes currently #1 in Proleague statistics so he might still be able to force himself in.
I don't think $0$ is number one. Where did you get that statistic?
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On May 22 2014 03:10 triforks wrote:
lol sOs knocked out of Code S today, but hes currently #1 in Proleague statistics so he might still be able to force himself in.
So I watched over 3 hours of the GSL today only to have you ruin the end for me. I think you have a sneaking suspicion of this already, but in case you don't: nobody loves you... not even you're parents. That is all.
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awesome SC2 news! definitely the best of the year so far I think
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Wow, this is great news!!
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This is sick. I'm curious to see how NA and EU Koreans can do against Korea Koreans :p
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United States33392 Posts
wow it's a way better version of the global tournament
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What determines the top 2 Proleague players?
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On May 22 2014 08:57 GolemMadness wrote:
What determines the top 2 Proleague players?
probably whatever metric allows for Flash to participate
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On May 22 2014 09:01 negativedge wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 08:57 GolemMadness wrote:
What determines the top 2 Proleague players? probably whatever metric allows for Flash to participate
I can support this.
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On May 22 2014 08:57 GolemMadness wrote:
What determines the top 2 Proleague players?
most wins maybe or monthly kespa ranking
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Good news!
Bad news for GOM though
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Yeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, this is so good! I can't wait! Jesus Christ! :D
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On May 22 2014 09:13 hansonslee wrote:Good news! Bad news for GOM though
Not necessarily, imagine a GOM run global championship every april and a kespa cup every sept. That would add tournaments to the korean scene which would be great for the sea of players in code B who could play and earn WCS points through more qualifiers.
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Damn it, ro32 knockout, no $100000 for 1st place which means sOs wont win this too. He has to wait 6 more months wtf. I expected him to earn $350000 in less than 12 months
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On May 22 2014 09:01 negativedge wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 08:57 GolemMadness wrote:
What determines the top 2 Proleague players? probably whatever metric allows for Flash to participate
Yeah they`ll definitely rig it for him using something weird like 'most wins' or 'elo'
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The metric has always been most wins when it comes to PL leaders. Win% would be a tie-breaker though. For example 14-10 player is ranked above a 12-2 player. But would rank lower than a 14-8 player.
And yes, this means that it's a stat that favors high usage players like Flash.
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This sucks for the winners and runner ups for WCS KR,EU and AM season one as they only got into GSL GC, hopefully they can do well again, especially MC
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I was looking at the entry on liquipedia and it says that herO and sOs are the top 2 proleague players, yet statistically Maru is ahead of both of them. Is the page wrong or has Maru turned the tournament down for some reason?
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Korea (South)169 Posts
On July 23 2014 03:01 myxoma_strain wrote:
I was looking at the entry on liquipedia and it says that herO and sOs are the top 2 proleague players, yet statistically Maru is ahead of both of them. Is the page wrong or has Maru turned the tournament down for some reason?
To find the official KeSPA rankings you can check out the KeSPA website or the English Facebook Page.
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Is this tournament going to be live somewhere in Seoul? Or online only?
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On July 23 2014 03:01 myxoma_strain wrote:
I was looking at the entry on liquipedia and it says that herO and sOs are the top 2 proleague players, yet statistically Maru is ahead of both of them. Is the page wrong or has Maru turned the tournament down for some reason?
It's because the official Proleague stats only count regular season games. The Liquipedia page counts playoffs also. If you go to http://www.twitch.tv/sc2proleague/b/543467831 (this is the VOD for the last regular season match) and skip to 2:26:30 you can see the official standings, and both herO and sOs finished one game ahead of Maru.
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More than 10k for first place? ez tourney for $o$ again
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On September 01 2014 16:21 TAMinator wrote:
More than 10k for first place? ez tourney for $o$ again
You must be confused, first place is not 100k.
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In terms of prestige it seems like Kespa Cup is only less prestigious than a starleague in SC2 (GSL/OSL) or some type of WCS Season/World Finals.
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On September 01 2014 17:16 Thrillz wrote:
In terms of prestige it seems like Kespa Cup is only less prestigious than a starleague in SC2 (GSL/OSL) or some type of WCS Season/World Finals.
lol what, did you not see how hard the qualifiers were?
all the players are winners of their respective regions , qualified players all went through a rough bracket to qualify
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On July 23 2014 03:01 myxoma_strain wrote:
I was looking at the entry on liquipedia and it says that herO and sOs are the top 2 proleague players, yet statistically Maru is ahead of both of them. Is the page wrong or has Maru turned the tournament down for some reason?
herO and sOs won most in the main round not counting the end of round playoffs
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EPT
