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On March 11 2014 04:32 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 04:23 SmoKim wrote:first of: Fucking awesome, ATC is my favorite team cup in SCII (even with Proleague being sooo good nowadays), so can't wait for it to begin! Also really cool that the mercenary rule is out (is the revive rule also out?) but it saddens me so much that only 2 teams goes to the offline event  stupid fucking travel expensives, why can't airline just give sc2 players a sponsored free ride! The way I see team events working in future is the way SC2L did it. Do everything offline except the finals and get the players to another live event and do the finals there. It's more efficient, the players get more exposure, can play in the other tournament too, you can share the costs, everyone wins.
That must be really hard on some of the players though. Wasn't it a long day of open/group play followed by team league in to the small hours? I mean it just becomes so much. But yeah it's pretty efficient.
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On March 11 2014 04:32 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 04:23 SmoKim wrote:first of: Fucking awesome, ATC is my favorite team cup in SCII (even with Proleague being sooo good nowadays), so can't wait for it to begin! Also really cool that the mercenary rule is out (is the revive rule also out?) but it saddens me so much that only 2 teams goes to the offline event stupid fucking travel expensives, why can't airline just give sc2 players a sponsored free ride! The way I see team events working in future is the way SC2L did it. Do everything offline except the finals and get the players to another live event and do the finals there. It's more efficient, the players get more exposure, can play in the other tournament too, you can share the costs, everyone wins.
Yeah, that's a really good concept, liked it very much for SC2L. So maybe this ATC final can be played at the next HSC?
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Why are Empire and Invictus invited, instead of having to re-qualify? Last season, it was said that the bottom two teams would drop out and have to re-qualify.
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On March 11 2014 04:45 Pontius Pirate wrote:
Why are Empire and Invictus invited, instead of having to re-qualify? Last season, it was said that the bottom two teams would drop out and have to re-qualify.
Because Western Wolves and Quantic Gaming have disbanded. Empire and Invictus are the replacement of those disbanded teams.
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They should speak to teams about rules. Like players should not play with a barcode, they have to play matches with a strict schedule.
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On March 11 2014 04:50 Aeromi wrote:
They should speak to teams about rules. Like players should not play with a barcode, they have to play matches with a strict schedule.
Oh man, I remember Millenium vs complexity last season. BabyKnight and Dayshi were just not there, complexity only had qxc, TheStC and MajOr and then MajOr didn't show up, coL had two forfeit two maps and revived TheStC finished against Maddelisk and Adelscott. And thus Millenium gave away their play-off chances 
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On March 11 2014 04:32 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 04:23 SmoKim wrote:first of: Fucking awesome, ATC is my favorite team cup in SCII (even with Proleague being sooo good nowadays), so can't wait for it to begin! Also really cool that the mercenary rule is out (is the revive rule also out?) but it saddens me so much that only 2 teams goes to the offline event stupid fucking travel expensives, why can't airline just give sc2 players a sponsored free ride! The way I see team events working in future is the way SC2L did it. Do everything offline except the finals and get the players to another live event and do the finals there. It's more efficient, the players get more exposure, can play in the other tournament too, you can share the costs, everyone wins.
So what you suggest is that tournaments starts to cooperate more? I like that idea (in general)
I'm not gonna lie, i wasn't hyped for SC2L at all, BUT the fact that they had the finals at Dreamhack was simply brilliant. DH is gonna be in X weekend no matter what, so either there would be schedule conflicts or they worked together and Bam!: DH and a Team league finals.
If ESL/IEM, Dreamhack, NASL, (Redbull?) (MLG?) and so on would either A) make their own team league or B) work together with ATC, ClanWars, (or SC2L if it came back) to have their live portions combined. Maybe even let the qualified teams players attend/invited to participate in the 1v1 tournament.
Altough alot of problems might show up (I.e: sponsor conflicts maybe), hopefully stuff like this will happen more.
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On March 11 2014 04:36 Serinox wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 04:32 TotalBiscuit wrote:On March 11 2014 04:23 SmoKim wrote:first of: Fucking awesome, ATC is my favorite team cup in SCII (even with Proleague being sooo good nowadays), so can't wait for it to begin! Also really cool that the mercenary rule is out (is the revive rule also out?) but it saddens me so much that only 2 teams goes to the offline event stupid fucking travel expensives, why can't airline just give sc2 players a sponsored free ride! The way I see team events working in future is the way SC2L did it. Do everything offline except the finals and get the players to another live event and do the finals there. It's more efficient, the players get more exposure, can play in the other tournament too, you can share the costs, everyone wins. Yeah, that's a really good concept, liked it very much for SC2L. So maybe this ATC final can be played at the next HSC?
I doubt that would be possible, ATC and HSC are sponsored by rivaling brands, and I dont think that either sponsor would be happy with shared screentime. And I doubt TaKe would replace the entire branding in the flat during the day.
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On March 11 2014 04:55 Serinox wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 04:50 Aeromi wrote:
They should speak to teams about rules. Like players should not play with a barcode, they have to play matches with a strict schedule. Oh man, I remember Millenium vs complexity last season. BabyKnight and Dayshi were just not there, complexity only had qxc, TheStC and MajOr and then MajOr didn't show up, coL had two forfeit two maps and revived TheStC finished against Maddelisk and Adelscott. And thus Millenium gave away their play-off chances
Worst team match in 2013. ^^
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On March 11 2014 05:02 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 04:55 Serinox wrote:On March 11 2014 04:50 Aeromi wrote:
They should speak to teams about rules. Like players should not play with a barcode, they have to play matches with a strict schedule. Oh man, I remember Millenium vs complexity last season. BabyKnight and Dayshi were just not there, complexity only had qxc, TheStC and MajOr and then MajOr didn't show up, coL had two forfeit two maps and revived TheStC finished against Maddelisk and Adelscott. And thus Millenium gave away their play-off chances Worst team match in 2013. ^^
TL vs. Quantic worst match
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On March 11 2014 04:36 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 04:32 TotalBiscuit wrote:On March 11 2014 04:23 SmoKim wrote:first of: Fucking awesome, ATC is my favorite team cup in SCII (even with Proleague being sooo good nowadays), so can't wait for it to begin! Also really cool that the mercenary rule is out (is the revive rule also out?) but it saddens me so much that only 2 teams goes to the offline event stupid fucking travel expensives, why can't airline just give sc2 players a sponsored free ride! The way I see team events working in future is the way SC2L did it. Do everything offline except the finals and get the players to another live event and do the finals there. It's more efficient, the players get more exposure, can play in the other tournament too, you can share the costs, everyone wins. That must be really hard on some of the players though. Wasn't it a long day of open/group play followed by team league in to the small hours? I mean it just becomes so much. But yeah it's pretty efficient.
Haha yes I think the SC2L finals started at 1:00 and ended at 3:30 or something like that.
On March 11 2014 05:03 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 05:02 Aeromi wrote:On March 11 2014 04:55 Serinox wrote:On March 11 2014 04:50 Aeromi wrote:
They should speak to teams about rules. Like players should not play with a barcode, they have to play matches with a strict schedule. Oh man, I remember Millenium vs complexity last season. BabyKnight and Dayshi were just not there, complexity only had qxc, TheStC and MajOr and then MajOr didn't show up, coL had two forfeit two maps and revived TheStC finished against Maddelisk and Adelscott. And thus Millenium gave away their play-off chances Worst team match in 2013. ^^ TL vs. Quantic worst match
Man, we LOST against Quantic with two kills from Gamja...
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On March 11 2014 05:03 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 05:02 Aeromi wrote:On March 11 2014 04:55 Serinox wrote:On March 11 2014 04:50 Aeromi wrote:
They should speak to teams about rules. Like players should not play with a barcode, they have to play matches with a strict schedule. Oh man, I remember Millenium vs complexity last season. BabyKnight and Dayshi were just not there, complexity only had qxc, TheStC and MajOr and then MajOr didn't show up, coL had two forfeit two maps and revived TheStC finished against Maddelisk and Adelscott. And thus Millenium gave away their play-off chances Worst team match in 2013. ^^ TL vs. Quantic worst match
That TaeJa rampage was atleast a good story, as TaeJa had to all-kill for TL to keep play-off chances. Mill vs coL was low in games quality, almost every player of both teams were missing and the only story was that Mill threw their chance away. I'd say the second was worse 
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On March 11 2014 05:08 Serinox wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 05:03 NovaMB wrote:On March 11 2014 05:02 Aeromi wrote:On March 11 2014 04:55 Serinox wrote:On March 11 2014 04:50 Aeromi wrote:
They should speak to teams about rules. Like players should not play with a barcode, they have to play matches with a strict schedule. Oh man, I remember Millenium vs complexity last season. BabyKnight and Dayshi were just not there, complexity only had qxc, TheStC and MajOr and then MajOr didn't show up, coL had two forfeit two maps and revived TheStC finished against Maddelisk and Adelscott. And thus Millenium gave away their play-off chances Worst team match in 2013. ^^ TL vs. Quantic worst match That TaeJa rampage was atleast a good story, as TaeJa had to all-kill for TL to keep play-off chances. Mill vs coL was low in games quality, almost every player of both teams were missing and the only story was that Mill threw their chance away. I'd say the second was worse
I was having fun during Mill vs. coL, quite the opposite during TaeJa vs. Quantic.
After looking at the results again, Invictus was really close, they lost 4-5 a mere 3 times ( vs. TL, mouz and Quantic). Oh and they didnt play 2 of their matches for some reason
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On March 11 2014 05:17 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 05:08 Serinox wrote:On March 11 2014 05:03 NovaMB wrote:On March 11 2014 05:02 Aeromi wrote:On March 11 2014 04:55 Serinox wrote:On March 11 2014 04:50 Aeromi wrote:
They should speak to teams about rules. Like players should not play with a barcode, they have to play matches with a strict schedule. Oh man, I remember Millenium vs complexity last season. BabyKnight and Dayshi were just not there, complexity only had qxc, TheStC and MajOr and then MajOr didn't show up, coL had two forfeit two maps and revived TheStC finished against Maddelisk and Adelscott. And thus Millenium gave away their play-off chances Worst team match in 2013. ^^ TL vs. Quantic worst match That TaeJa rampage was atleast a good story, as TaeJa had to all-kill for TL to keep play-off chances. Mill vs coL was low in games quality, almost every player of both teams were missing and the only story was that Mill threw their chance away. I'd say the second was worse I was having fun during Mill vs. coL, quite the opposite during TaeJa vs. Quantic. After looking at the results again, Invictus was really close, they lost 4-5 a mere 3 times ( vs. TL, mouz and Quantic). Oh and they didnt play 2 of their matches for some reason
I was crying behind my scrren during Mill vs coL. Please, stop.
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On March 11 2014 05:19 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 05:17 NovaMB wrote:On March 11 2014 05:08 Serinox wrote:On March 11 2014 05:03 NovaMB wrote:On March 11 2014 05:02 Aeromi wrote:On March 11 2014 04:55 Serinox wrote:On March 11 2014 04:50 Aeromi wrote:
They should speak to teams about rules. Like players should not play with a barcode, they have to play matches with a strict schedule. Oh man, I remember Millenium vs complexity last season. BabyKnight and Dayshi were just not there, complexity only had qxc, TheStC and MajOr and then MajOr didn't show up, coL had two forfeit two maps and revived TheStC finished against Maddelisk and Adelscott. And thus Millenium gave away their play-off chances Worst team match in 2013. ^^ TL vs. Quantic worst match That TaeJa rampage was atleast a good story, as TaeJa had to all-kill for TL to keep play-off chances. Mill vs coL was low in games quality, almost every player of both teams were missing and the only story was that Mill threw their chance away. I'd say the second was worse I was having fun during Mill vs. coL, quite the opposite during TaeJa vs. Quantic. After looking at the results again, Invictus was really close, they lost 4-5 a mere 3 times ( vs. TL, mouz and Quantic). Oh and they didnt play 2 of their matches for some reason I was crying behind my scrren during Mill vs coL. Pleas, stop.
Quite the same during TaeJa vs. Hyun & Friends
Looking forward to fighting all Mill fans during Mill vs. mouz again.
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On March 11 2014 05:19 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 05:17 NovaMB wrote:On March 11 2014 05:08 Serinox wrote:On March 11 2014 05:03 NovaMB wrote:On March 11 2014 05:02 Aeromi wrote:On March 11 2014 04:55 Serinox wrote:On March 11 2014 04:50 Aeromi wrote:
They should speak to teams about rules. Like players should not play with a barcode, they have to play matches with a strict schedule. Oh man, I remember Millenium vs complexity last season. BabyKnight and Dayshi were just not there, complexity only had qxc, TheStC and MajOr and then MajOr didn't show up, coL had two forfeit two maps and revived TheStC finished against Maddelisk and Adelscott. And thus Millenium gave away their play-off chances Worst team match in 2013. ^^ TL vs. Quantic worst match That TaeJa rampage was atleast a good story, as TaeJa had to all-kill for TL to keep play-off chances. Mill vs coL was low in games quality, almost every player of both teams were missing and the only story was that Mill threw their chance away. I'd say the second was worse I was having fun during Mill vs. coL, quite the opposite during TaeJa vs. Quantic. After looking at the results again, Invictus was really close, they lost 4-5 a mere 3 times ( vs. TL, mouz and Quantic). Oh and they didnt play 2 of their matches for some reason I was crying behind my scrren during Mill vs coL. Pleas, stop.
Me too. Had we not lost stupidly those two matches (Quantic and coL) and we'd have been at 5-3 with only Invictus to play to confirm our playoffs spot. Things went so bad but I guess we deserved that for taking Axiom's spot in season 1 playoffs. Or simply for having players who don't show up.
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Nice, I always enjoy team-leagues. Having to strategise which player to send against whom on which map makes the whole thing more interesting.
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Empire \o/
we need more players tho!
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Sweden7978 Posts
Cool stuff, I fondly recall the season 2 finals. Watching MMA dominate everything and everyone while Scarlett was playing some online cup on the side was pretty funny. Some rather good games from that final too.
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