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SPL R2 - MarineKing Returns, State Debuts

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March 2nd, 2014 02:47 GMT
SKPlanet PRoleague

Round 2, Week 1 Recap: Winners and Losers

By: Waxangel

Proleague began the second of its four rounds last week with several of the teams featuring new players on their rosters. It's safe to say the newcomers had quite an impact, though not always in the way the teams may have hoped. Here are the standings at the end of week one.


Round 2 Standings
1.KT2-06-4+2
2.SKT1-03-0+3
3.PRIME1-03-2+1
4.Samsung1-15-3+2
5.Jin Air1-15-4+1
6.MVP0-12-3-1
7.IM0-10-3-3
8.CJ0-21-6-5
Results and standings on Liquipedia
Videos on Youtube

February 23


KT Rolster (3 - 2) Jin Air Green Wings
(T)Flash < Yeonsu LE > (T)Maru
(T)TY < Frost LE > (T)Cure
(P)Stats < The King Sejong Station > (Z)Rogue
(P)Zest < Habitation Station LE > (P)Terminator
Ace: (P)Zest <Outboxer> (T)Maru

Samsung Galaxy (3 - 0) CJ Entus
(P)Stork < Frost LE > (P)herO
(P)Hurricane < Yeonsu LE > (P)Sora
(Z)RorO < Outboxer > (Z)EffOrt
(Z)Solar < Polar Night LE > (Z)Hydra

February 24


MVP (2 - 3) Prime
(T)Dream < Outboxer > (T)MarineKing
(Z)DongRaeGu < The King Sejong Station > (Z)KassiA
(P)Super < Habitation Station LE > (P)Creator
(T)KeeN < Frost LE > (P)Jila (GooJila,Kal)
Ace: (Z)DongRaeGu <Polar Night LE> (P)Creator

Incredible Miracle (0 - 3) SK Telecom T1
(Z)Life < Outboxer > (T)FanTaSy
(Z)ByuL < The King Sejong Station > (P)Classic
(Z)Curious < Habitation Station LE > (Z)Soulkey
(P)YongHwa < Frost LE > (P)Rain

February 25


CJ Entus (1 - 3) Jin Air Green Wings
(Z)EffOrt < Frost LE > (T)Maru
(T)Bbyong < Yeonsu LE > (P)sOs
(Z)Hydra < Outboxer > (Z)Rogue (CliMax,Savage)
(P)herO < Polar Night LE > (T)Cure


Samsung Galaxy (2 - 3) KT Rolster
(P)Hurricane < Habitation Station LE > (T)TY
(Z)Solar < Polar Night LE > (P)Zest
(T)TurN < Yeonsu LE > (Z)Action
(P)Stork < Outboxer > (T)Flash
Ace: (Z)Solar <Frost LE> (T)Flash


Winner: (T)MarineKingPrime

MarineKing looked surprisingly sharp as he won his first official match after returning to StarCraft 2. Facing MVP's Dream, MKP used a a curious mech-sky style to squash Dream's bio oriented forces. Though MKP struggled a bit to keep up with Dream's multi-directional harassment, he defended well enough to eventually amass an unstoppable army of mixed forces. The "defend until you can win with one push" approach made it look more like an IM_Mvp game than a MKP game, but as long as he's winning, Prime fans aren't complaining.


MKP is back and winning games.

Loser: (Z)ST_Life

Life also made his Proleague debut last week, but unlike MKP he failed to impress. Playing for IM as allowed by the ST-IM partnership, Life was put up against SKT's Fantasy. It seemed like an easy match for Life with the SKT Terran coming off poor form in individual leagues and barely any starts in round 1, but Fantasy upped his play for round 2. By bringing an unusual half-mech, half-bio composition to the table, Fantasy was able to confuse Life and give him army composition conundrums.

Life could have won despite his less than optimal reaction to Fantasy's unusual strategy, but he ended up taking a horrible, almost panicked engagement with brood lords that cost him the game. For all his individual league success, Life was never a particularly great player for Startale in the GSTL, and it seems like that hasn't changed now that he's playing for IM in the Proleague.

Winner: KT Rolster (2-0)

When you see the difference in how KT Rolster players perform in Proleague and in GSL, it makes you want to go inside the house and see what goes on in there. What could the ratio of practice be? Weighted 80:20 toward Proleague? 90:10? 100:0 with all individual league practice taking place in players' free time? Despite having just one player in Code S (Zest), KT Rolster is still on top of the mountain in Proleague. With two wins in ace matches last week, KT Rolster have improved to 4-1 in ace matches on the season.

Loser: CJ Entus (0-2)

CJ Entus is the anti-KT Rolster. Its players came into the new Proleague season with excellent results in individual tournaments, but they've failed miserably to bring their team any success. Even team ace CJ_herO, two time IEM champion and Code S player, has slipped below a 50% win rate. It's hard to tell why this roster of talented players can't do any better in Proleague. All we can say is that there is something terribly, terribly wrong.

Winner and Loser: (T)KT_Flash

On one hand, Flash lost to Stork and was forced to suffer through the following ceremony.



On the other hand, Flash immediately won the following ace match against Solar to send KT Rolster to the top of the table.

Round 2, Week 2: More New Arrivals


MKP, Hurricane, Life, and Curious made their Proleague debuts in week one, but not all the new players had a chance to do so. Week two will feature yet more players playing their first Proleague matches, including the American player (P)State!

March 2


Prime vs Incredible Miracle
(Z)DeParture <Frost> (Z)ByuL
(T)MarineKing <Yeonsu> (Z)Life
(P)Creator <Outboxer> (P)Squirtle
(Z)KassiA <Polar Night> (P)Trap
Ace: <The King Sejong Station>

SK Telecom T1 vs MVP
(Z)Sacsri <Habitation Station> (P)Swagger
(P)PartinG <Polar Night> (Z)DongRaeGu
(Z)Soulkey <Yeonsu> (P)Super
(T)FanTaSy <Outboxer> (Z)Sniper
Ace: <Frost>

March 3


CJ Entus vs KT Rolster
(T)Bbyong <Outboxer> (P)Zest
(P)herO <The King Sejong Station> (T)TY
(Z)EffOrt <Habitation Station> (P)Stats
(T)GuMiho <Frost> (T)Flash
Ace: <Polar Night>

Jin Air Green Wings vs Samsung Galaxy
(Z)Rogue <Outboxer> (P)Hurricane
(Z)TRUE <The King Sejong Station> (P)Stork
(P)sOs <Habitation Station> (T)Reality
(T)Maru <Frost> (Z)RorO
Ace: <Polar Night>

March 4


Incredible Miracle vs MVP
(P)HerO <Frost> (Z)Sniper
(P)Trap <Yeonsu> (Z)DongRaeGu
(P)YongHwa <Outboxer> (T)KeeN
(Z)ByuL <Polar Night> (P)Super
Ace: <The King Sejong Station>

Prime vs SK Telecom T1
(P)Choya <Yeonsu> (Z)Soulkey
(P)Creator <Frost> (T)FanTaSy
(P)State <The King Sejong Station> (P)Classic
(T)MarineKing <Habitation Station> (Z)soO
Ace: <Outboxer>


Gumiho vs. Flash


(T)CJ_GuMiho will be the first player in week 2 to have his Proleague debut match, barring a 3-0 result in the series. It didn't take long for Gumiho to find a new home on CJ Entus after fOu/FXO disbanded, and it's not surprising that the grizzled veteran has worked his way into the starting line-up ahead of Bbyong and Bunny. Though Gumiho is no longer the Code S regular he was in his prime, he can still be a valuable player for a Proleague team. He plays a very aggressive style that's not the easiest to prepare for, and he's also adept at making unusual builds that tailored to his style. It may not be the skillset you need to make a deep run in Code S, but it seems well suited for the best-of-one Proleague environment.

While no one wants to play the best Proleague player EVER in their debut match, TvT was the ideal match-up for Gumiho to draw. It's the match-up where players stay competitive the longest after their skills in other match-ups have deteriorated, and Gumiho was able to compete with the best Terrans in the world during his prime. Though this match doesn't favor Gumiho, he has a decent chance of winning.

Choya vs. Soulkey


Back in the days of FXO and GSTL, we used to joke that the only reason Choya got a chance to play was because he was the one making the line-up decisions. However, (P)ChoyaPrime has now earned a start as part of another team and under a different coach, raising a lot of questions. Were we wrong all along? Did Choya actually earn all of those important game appearances for FXO based on merit? Is Choya quietly taking over the SC2 head coach position at Prime while Gerrard is busy playing HearthStone?.

Though we can't blame anyone for writing off Choya against (Z)Soulkey, you have to be reminded of another Prime Protoss who went up against Soulkey as the underdog. Back in round 1, (P)JilaPrime scored a gigantic upset against Soulkey by employing cheesy, all-in tactics. Choya has pulled off similar upsets in his GSTL days (notably beating a peak-form MMA), and he's sure to have a trick up his sleeve against Soulkey.

State vs. Classic


With Prime, it's impossible to tell which roster decisions come out of desperation and which ones are based on merit. In round one, Creator was the only player to have a regular line-up spot. The other three spots almost seemed to be filled at random, as if Prime was just throwing players out haphazardly to see if anyone would stick.

In round two, Creator has been joined by MarineKing as line-up regular. However, the last two spots still seem to be getting picked by the same rotating door system. So even though we're cheering hard for (P)State to succeed, realistically we can't be that optimistic about his chances. That said, PvP does happen to be the match-up where the most foreigner > Korean upsets have occurred in the past, so Classic is far, far from being guaranteed a win.

*On a side note, State is not yet an official member of Prime. Earlier reports from Korean media were incorrect.



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Writers: Waxangel
Images: SpoTV
Editors: Waxangel.
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Fuell
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Netherlands3111 Posts
March 02 2014 03:00 GMT
#2
this week is gonna be good!
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-RusH
Profile Joined June 2012
United States240 Posts
March 02 2014 03:05 GMT
#3
I wish they'd go back to bo7 so we can get even more great matchups. Any reason why they decided not to do so this season?
Life..
Mafab
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany458 Posts
March 02 2014 03:07 GMT
#4
I think the real winner of this week was Stork. He seems to have gotten a lot more confident. MKP winning was also awesome of course.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 03:25:49
March 02 2014 03:12 GMT
#5
winner MKP i like it

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mistake
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Josh_Video
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada798 Posts
March 02 2014 03:23 GMT
#6
"it's not surprising that the grizzled veteran has worked his way into the starting line-up ahead of Bbyong and Bunny. "

Hes still behind Bbyong is he not?
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Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
March 02 2014 03:34 GMT
#7
Gogo State!! Eat em up Ryan
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scotch4789
Profile Joined July 2013
United States42 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 03:35:01
March 02 2014 03:34 GMT
#8
KT Rolster (2 - 3) Jin Air Green Wings

mistake

Also, none of the debuts will win this week. Hoping for State tho
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
March 02 2014 03:46 GMT
#9
Loser: CJ Entus (0-2)

CJ Entus is the anti-KT Rolster. Its players came into the new Proleague season with excellent results in individual tournaments, but they've failed miserably to bring their team any success. Even team ace CJ_herO, two time IEM champion and Code S player, has slipped below a 50% win rate. It's hard to tell why this roster of talented players can't do any better in Proleague. All we can say is that there is something terribly, terribly wrong.



Z-Curse.
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Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
March 02 2014 03:52 GMT
#10
i dont think many ppl would have expected Prime actually have a win so early on in the new round of SPL, but i guess having MKP revived some of their spirits :D congrats prime on not being in the bottom 4 for this round! hope Prime is consistent.
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United States30730 Posts
March 02 2014 04:07 GMT
#11
On March 02 2014 12:23 Josh_Video wrote:
"it's not surprising that the grizzled veteran has worked his way into the starting line-up ahead of Bbyong and Bunny. "

Hes still behind Bbyong is he not?


Hard to say. They both had similar mediocre results in 2013, though Bbyong has more SPL experience and is still in code S atm. Still, he's had an easier path and never been impressive as far as SPL goes. Gumiho on the other hand has at least had a few impressive peaks in his career. Also, he has a lot of tricky builds so I'd consider him a better Terran to field than Bbyong.
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FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
March 02 2014 04:37 GMT
#12
No-one knows how to win games better than Choya (except MVP). He may not win, but you can bet that he'll come in with a build or strategy that gives him a good shot at winning.
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LingBlingBling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States353 Posts
March 02 2014 04:54 GMT
#13
Wow state vs classic, that's going to be a rough one for state, looking forward to see him play.
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RatzBarcode
Profile Joined December 2013
United States98 Posts
March 02 2014 06:26 GMT
#14
On March 02 2014 12:05 -RusH wrote:
I wish they'd go back to bo7 so we can get even more great matchups. Any reason why they decided not to do so this season?


I think time at the venue was the biggest issue, they wanted to get two matches in but would be unable if they were bo7.
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
March 02 2014 06:35 GMT
#15
Huge congratulations to State for making the ProLeague lineup for Prime!
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
March 02 2014 07:21 GMT
#16
State needs to do a ceremony if he wins. Don't think he looks like that type of guy though
Mordanis
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States893 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 08:33:33
March 02 2014 08:30 GMT
#17
I'm psyched for tonight! Who needs sleep when you've got MKP-Life and Creator-Squirtle?
Edit: am I the only one who has any confidence in State. Yeah, foreigners don't exactly do excellently in Proleague, but I think State has a pretty good chance.
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Xarles
Profile Joined July 2011
459 Posts
March 02 2014 08:55 GMT
#18
On March 02 2014 12:52 Advantageous wrote:
i dont think many ppl would have expected Prime actually have a win so early on in the new round of SPL, but i guess having MKP revived some of their spirits :D congrats prime on not being in the bottom 4 for this round! hope Prime is consistent.

A King has that effect on his people! :D
SamuelGreen
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden292 Posts
March 02 2014 09:21 GMT
#19
State vs Classic? This gon be gud :-)
VArsovskiSC
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Macedonia563 Posts
March 02 2014 10:01 GMT
#20
I wonder if Classic writes to state "Welcome to Proleague" when the game's over.. State is relatively good..

But tradition is a tradition man.. :D
Another world, another place, another universe, won the race.. :) ;) :P
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Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
March 02 2014 13:23 GMT
#21
Statement time
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Mexico290 Posts
March 02 2014 18:15 GMT
#22
Wow... Go Stat
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United States323 Posts
March 02 2014 18:43 GMT
#23
Dang, way more interesting story line happening in R2. Cool.
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United States976 Posts
March 02 2014 19:40 GMT
#24
Stork doing work!
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igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
March 02 2014 23:34 GMT
#25
So happy mkp took his map
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Profile Joined December 2013
Canada4 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-03 01:08:30
March 03 2014 01:08 GMT
#26
Prime with a much more solid lineup this week than any time before.
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Profile Joined November 2005
Guatemala357 Posts
March 03 2014 02:53 GMT
#27
Thanks for the article, I made some small numbers about this round:

Total Games = 25

Mirror Matches

PvP = 4
TvT = 3
ZvZ = 4

Total mirror matches = 11 or 44%

Unmirror matches = 14 or 56%

TvP = 6 or 24%
TvZ = 4 or 16%
PvZ = 4 or 16%

Victories per race:

TvP
Terrans = 3 or 50%
Protoss = 3 or 50%

TvZ
Terrans = 4 or 100%
Zerg = 0 or 0%

PvZ
Protoss = 4 or 100%
Zerg = 0 or 0%

TOTAL wins per race

Terran = 10 or 40%
Protoss = 12 or 48%
Zerg = 3 or 12%

so, what is going on with Zergs? Well, just some numbers, hopefully Zerg will do better for the next article...
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artosismermaid
Profile Joined May 2011
213 Posts
March 03 2014 02:57 GMT
#28
Don't think state has much of a chance versus classic, but certainly more of a chance then any prime zerg
hfsrj
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany166 Posts
March 03 2014 14:43 GMT
#29
On March 03 2014 11:53 kawoq wrote:
Thanks for the article, I made some small numbers about this round:

Terran = 10 or 40%
Protoss = 12 or 48%
Zerg = 3 or 12%

so, what is going on with Zergs? Well, just some numbers, hopefully Zerg will do better for the next article...


Thanks, but it would be really nice to not include the mirror matches in these last figures.
Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
March 04 2014 01:47 GMT
#30
On March 02 2014 11:47 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Winner: (T)MarineKingPrime

Loser: (Z)ST_Life

Winner: KT Rolster (2-0)

Loser: CJ Entus (0-2)

+ Show Spoiler +

It's funny that right after this appeared in the article, Life proceeds to win MKP while CJ beats KT.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
March 04 2014 04:02 GMT
#31
Stats pls.
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
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United States323 Posts
March 06 2014 03:04 GMT
#32
I'm just gonna say it. This Brendan dude is one of the worst professional casters I've experienced. Who the hell hires these guys? At least Wolf is there for some legitimacy.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
March 06 2014 03:15 GMT
#33
Brendan is a LoL caster and doesn't have that much experience in SC2, that's why he is more of a caster than analyst.
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Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
March 06 2014 05:04 GMT
#34
On March 06 2014 12:15 lichter wrote:
Brendan is a LoL caster and doesn't have that much experience in SC2, that's why he is more of a caster than analyst.


The LoL casters that casted the OSL 2013 were pretty good. The thing with Brendan he has a very flat and indifference tone.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
March 06 2014 16:17 GMT
#35
On March 04 2014 10:47 Pangpootata wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 11:47 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Winner: (T)MarineKingPrime

Loser: (Z)ST_Life

Winner: KT Rolster (2-0)

Loser: CJ Entus (0-2)

+ Show Spoiler +

It's funny that right after this appeared in the article, Life proceeds to win MKP while CJ beats KT.


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