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MysticaL
Canada118 Posts
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p14c
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Micro_Jackson
Germany2002 Posts
On February 06 2014 21:41 n0ise wrote: Great insights from DK, as usual If +25 Energy on Time Warp doesn't help hold 2-Base Blink, I really don't know what will. It's like the Terrans aren't even trying these days. ....... The +25 energy doesn't change anything for 2 Base blink because there is only 1 needed. The most reasonable (and most suggested) change is to lower the vision range of the MSC and to change the maps because a big reason why blink opening are so popular TvP is that at least half of the current WCS maps are very blink friendly. | ||
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Destructicon
4713 Posts
I've said this once, why don't we all file a formal complaint on Blizzard's websites against them, they must have some department like customer support, quality assurance, I don't know, something that will pick up the complaints and send them higher up. I for one am at the end of my patience with the SC2 design team, and I think its high time that a real change occurs. | ||
TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On February 06 2014 21:41 n0ise wrote: Great insights from DK, as usual If +25 Energy on Time Warp doesn't help hold 2-Base Blink, I really don't know what will. It's like the Terrans aren't even trying these days. You realize Time Warp at 100 energy changes absolutely nothing in like 99.5% of the situations? The strength of 2-bases Blink isn't even only related to the actual strength of the attack... | ||
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On February 06 2014 21:41 n0ise wrote: Great insights from DK, as usual If +25 Energy on Time Warp doesn't help hold 2-Base Blink, I really don't know what will. It's like the Terrans aren't even trying these days. Looking at n0ise's previous posts, I'd say this is very well disguised sarcasm. | ||
TW
Poland255 Posts
IEM Katowice qualifications - YES YES YES Terrans were decimated again. Flash, Ty, BByong, Innovation, MMA, Cure ... none of them reach Ro4 there is still Cure - Sora left, but I can bet who's gonna win. | ||
ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On February 06 2014 21:41 n0ise wrote: Great insights from DK, as usual If +25 Energy on Time Warp doesn't help hold 2-Base Blink, I really don't know what will. It's like the Terrans aren't even trying these days. If pro-gamers themselves can't win vs Protoss (which is what we're seeing in GSL), you can't say shit like that. Pro-gamers are quite the try-hards. Edit: Seems like it could be sarcasm, but I mean, I don't know if you're Protoss or Terran :D | ||
Exoteric
Australia2330 Posts
On February 06 2014 22:04 Ghanburighan wrote: Looking at n0ise's previous posts, I'd say this is very well disguised sarcasm. not even well disguised, it's pretty blatant that the time warp change doesn't do anything | ||
Micro_Jackson
Germany2002 Posts
On February 06 2014 21:58 Destructicon wrote: And again, I have to post this same question to the community. If we are so unhappy with David Kim and Dustin Browder's way of handling the game, if each and every one of their patch changes screams incompetence, and if so many of their interviews they are more concerned with their PR, instead of the state of the game, then why don't we do something about it? I've said this once, why don't we all file a formal complaint on Blizzard's websites against them, they must have some department like customer support, quality assurance, I don't know, something that will pick up the complaints and send them higher up. I for one am at the end of my patience with the SC2 design team, and I think its high time that a real change occurs. Because customers are stupid. If you fire every designer if somebody on the internet is complaining about their game we wouldn´t have any game made since 1990. Also most companies give a shit about what people are thinking as long as they are selling their products. Look at Exxon, Monsantu or JP Morgan. The only way to "tell" them in a way they understand is by not buying their products. Also you have to understand this guys they were spending the last (idk) 5+ years on this thing every day, for sure often more than 12+ hours. Everyone would defend the product in their position. | ||
ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On February 06 2014 22:09 Exoteric wrote: not even well disguised, it's pretty blatant that the time warp change doesn't do anything Well, Protoss players would probably think it does too much already ;D | ||
Liman
Serbia681 Posts
However this is a step up from ignoring the community,at least he showed up and took some questions. He should really done that Q&A thing here on TL because more people follow SC2 stuff here than on blizzard forums. Personally game is ruined for me as a viewer.I cannot watch PvP and PvZ for 3 months. As player i dont even bother playing vs P in straight up game,i just cheese.... If something isnt done quick SC2 will loose viewers and players and that would be such a shame. I just hope its not too late. | ||
Mifoi123
Canada42 Posts
On February 06 2014 20:40 Tchado wrote: If DK and DB somehow find their way into the Wc4 design team ( which will most likely happen ), I will go to USA and shoot them myself....Guantanamo here I come ! But I agree with what you said. User was warned for this post A warning for a death threat? So what is actually needed to get banned? I am greatly disapointed in the Team liquid forum Moderators... ![]() Keeping the forum clean is your jobs guys... DO IT PROPERLY! This is a "DEATH THREAT"! You can't just say oh it was a joke? You have to draw the line somewhere? Please explain to me where is your line drawn? | ||
dargul
Russian Federation125 Posts
On February 06 2014 22:32 Liman wrote: Only question needed to be asked was : When will you fix TvP ? Does it even matter?....no answer would be given. However this is a step up from ignoring the community,at least he showed up and took some questions. He should really done that Q&A thing here on TL because more people follow SC2 stuff here than on blizzard forums. Personally game is ruined for me as a viewer.I cannot watch PvP and PvZ for 3 months. As player i dont even bother playing vs P in straight up game,i just cheese.... If something isnt done quick SC2 will loose viewers and players and that would be such a shame. I just hope its not too late. It would be MUCH better if kim streamed his games on ladder for example playing the weakest race to show that it's not true and searching for ways to overcome weaknesses. And give answers on some questions at the end of the stream. Then people will see that he really good player and probably understand what he is doing with balance. Because now kim looks like "smart guy" sitting in blizzard doing nothing and getting paid for random changes which don't change balance at all. | ||
n0ise
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goody153
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too bad its going in this direction .. i don't even watch sc2 that is not tvz or tvt anymore .. i rarely watch tvp with the cases of my favorite players playing flash/maru .. last year i would watch every single game if it was possible that was casted nowadays i just watch dota 2 if its not those 2 match ups.. PvP is just boring. PvZ is now pretty lame. TvP is disappointing. I just hope they don't continue responding too long or too quick in balance issues or sc2 will fade. | ||
Dapper_Cad
United Kingdom964 Posts
On February 06 2014 22:41 Mifoi123 wrote: A warning for a death threat? So what is actually needed to get banned? I am greatly disapointed in the Team liquid forum Moderators... ![]() Keeping the forum clean is your jobs guys... DO IT PROPERLY! This is a "DEATH THREAT"! You can't just say oh it was a joke? You have to draw the line somewhere? Please explain to me where is your line drawn? You grab the pitchfork, I'll continue to scan the thread about what David Kim said for people talking about what David Kim said. | ||
Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
On February 06 2014 22:41 Mifoi123 wrote: A warning for a death threat? So what is actually needed to get banned? I am greatly disapointed in the Team liquid forum Moderators... ![]() Keeping the forum clean is your jobs guys... DO IT PROPERLY! This is a "DEATH THREAT"! You can't just say oh it was a joke? You have to draw the line somewhere? Please explain to me where is your line drawn? The line was drawn when I clearly said it was a joke in the next post , and I added another comment saying next time I will add a disclaimer for westerners who actually take this seriously. By the way it's clearly a joke since I mentioned Guantanamo. Move on and get back to the balance discussion , to be fair it was my bad , I should've taken the time to write a disclaimer for the idiots. | ||
klup
France612 Posts
On February 06 2014 22:41 Mifoi123 wrote: A warning for a death threat? So what is actually needed to get banned? I am greatly disapointed in the Team liquid forum Moderators... ![]() Keeping the forum clean is your jobs guys... DO IT PROPERLY! This is a "DEATH THREAT"! You can't just say oh it was a joke? You have to draw the line somewhere? Please explain to me where is your line drawn? I just Facepalmed so hard reading this I almost killed myself. I guess they should ban me for sucide attempt | ||
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On February 06 2014 23:00 n0ise wrote: Judging from the reactions, I think I can safely award myself a 10/10 for the previous post. Beautifully crafted sarcasm. ![]() | ||
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