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orangeorange
Profile Joined October 2012
134 Posts
January 28 2014 19:04 GMT
#61
On January 29 2014 02:09 BreAKerTV wrote:
Hi guys, yoeFWBreAKer here. This news was all posted while I was asleep last night.

For all those of you who are just now reading this post here are the details I must stress to you:
*Wayi spider is backed by a game company.
*Flash Wolves is backed by
*Right now there is no way for a pro gamer to obtain an athlete's visa in Taiwan.
*All foreigners who have entered Taiwan to compete in TeSL (including yoeFWSan) have used visitor visas. Visitor visas require a competitor to leave within 90 days of entering the country unless they are studying at a university in Taiwan (in which case they leave within 90 days of the end of the semester).
*Presently there is no way to cast TeSL in English with a live, in-game observer position (although that may change this summer, and I will to my best to provide it for you guys.).


How has Sase been able to stay in Taiwan for so long? he's been there for over a year.
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 21:06:43
January 28 2014 19:07 GMT
#62
On January 29 2014 02:09 BreAKerTV wrote:
Hi guys, yoeFWBreAKer here. This news was all posted while I was asleep last night.

For all those of you who are just now reading this post here are the details I must stress to you:
*Wayi spider is backed by a game company.
*Flash Wolves is backed by
*Right now there is no way for a pro gamer to obtain an athlete's visa in Taiwan.
*All foreigners who have entered Taiwan to compete in TeSL (including yoeFWSan) have used visitor visas. Visitor visas require a competitor to leave within 90 days of entering the country unless they are studying at a university in Taiwan (in which case they leave within 90 days of the end of the semester).
*Presently there is no way to cast TeSL in English with a live, in-game observer position (although that may change this summer, and I will to my best to provide it for you guys.).

So Leenock is going to compete in TeSL?

Edit: Apparently he is
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 28 2014 19:09 GMT
#63
My dream of July, Leenock and Bravo all on one team seems so far away now.
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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
January 28 2014 19:15 GMT
#64
How can you guys quote BreAKerTV without asking him who Flash Wolves is backed by?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
January 28 2014 20:05 GMT
#65
Leenock is going to Taiwan in April or after the first season of GSL to play in tesl
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tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
January 28 2014 20:07 GMT
#66
!!! Leenock :D

such a sick pick-up for WW

Also, huh, it's awesome to see the Tawainese community branching out to Korean players!
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
January 28 2014 21:21 GMT
#67
Is Flash Wolves that team that also have San? I thought the TeSL was essentially over, is there still a big SC2 scene in Taiwan after that loss?
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 21:32:46
January 28 2014 21:31 GMT
#68
On January 29 2014 06:21 Greendotz wrote:
Is Flash Wolves that team that also have San? I thought the TeSL was essentially over, is there still a big SC2 scene in Taiwan after that loss?

Yes San is on Flash Wolves
also:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=441425 it's even a tier 3 wcs event
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mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
January 28 2014 21:32 GMT
#69
On January 29 2014 06:21 Greendotz wrote:
Is Flash Wolves that team that also have San? I thought the TeSL was essentially over, is there still a big SC2 scene in Taiwan after that loss?

Hell no! TeSL is just no longer a team league, it's an individual league now, and more regular than ever. It's even giving out WCS points in 2014.

Yes, Flash Wolves have San and Leenock, as well as basically all of the best Taiwanese players except Sen. Apparently they were taken over by a pretty big corporation (Wanin Bank - it says mothafuckin BANK, not sure exactly what they are though) so they they're well off.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
January 28 2014 21:32 GMT
#70
On January 29 2014 06:21 Greendotz wrote:
Is Flash Wolves that team that also have San? I thought the TeSL was essentially over, is there still a big SC2 scene in Taiwan after that loss?

Well according to my translator (shoutout to kupon3ss) Leenock is expected to go to Taiwan in April/May to play in TeSL so doesn't seem that dead.
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KaienFEMC
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada127 Posts
January 28 2014 21:37 GMT
#71
On January 29 2014 04:15 AlternativeEgo wrote:
How can you guys quote BreAKerTV without asking him who Flash Wolves is backed by?


Yoe Flash Wolves is backed by Wanin International. Their Chinese website is the following: http://www.waninbank.com.tw/About.aspx

There is "bank" in the url (and I think liquidpedia called it Wanin Bank) but it is not really one of those traditional banks. It is a company specialized in cloud service and internet transaction in Taiwan. Yoe Card "遊e卡" is actually a popular game point card that the company sells and they tagged it to the pro-teams they sponsors. Pretty smart move I think.
Akaann
Profile Joined May 2011
Switzerland82 Posts
January 28 2014 21:57 GMT
#72
Damn I hoped Leenock joining Prime :-(
https://www.instagram.com/luke4power/
AnonymousSC2
Profile Joined January 2014
United States189 Posts
January 29 2014 00:35 GMT
#73
On January 28 2014 18:26 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 18:14 WWDaisy wrote:
On January 28 2014 17:37 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
Why Check and Daisy? Cheap? Much, Much better koreans out there, no offense to those players. Leenock to Yoe is more like it.. better investment than Check and Daisy


sorry...

He's ignorant, don't worry.


I'd argue you are ignorant for saying otherwise. I invite them to prove me wrong, but if we go with the facts.. the facts would support my argument that they are not a reliable investment and surely don't have as much potential/results as many other koreans who are looking for teams.

Daisy has 47% winrate according to his TL profile, and most of his career has been in Europe which means weaker competition than the koreans. Check is better with a 53% wr and mostly korean tournaments but thats not incredibly impressive. We also haven't seen great results from Daisy at any point really, and Check not for since earlier GSL days.

In short, I just don't see it. Idk why I even respond to you, but I felt like it.
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
January 29 2014 02:02 GMT
#74
I will sell my soul to whoever translates http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=103410&iskin=esports
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jackslater
Profile Joined November 2012
Russian Federation604 Posts
January 29 2014 04:13 GMT
#75
GL to players!
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
January 29 2014 04:34 GMT
#76
was hoping to see leenock join a kespa team

and at first i thought that was the original check coming outta retirement, but i didnt realise it was actually ALBM. grats to them for their new homes
HeadlessWonder
Profile Joined January 2013
United States1096 Posts
January 29 2014 07:06 GMT
#77
Hooray for players joining teams!! :D
CIS Doto
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
January 29 2014 08:39 GMT
#78
Leenock and San on the same team?
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ChapatiyaqPTSM
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1887 Posts
January 29 2014 09:00 GMT
#79
Yes.
LiquipediaBoy, these pretzels are makin' me thirsty.
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
January 29 2014 09:11 GMT
#80
YFW could probably beat Prime now.
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