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prabhbhambra13
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom424 Posts
January 27 2014 23:28 GMT
#581
$100,000 is a lot of money for (P)Rain to take home
SECO SECO SECO
SpunXtain20
Profile Joined January 2014
Australia554 Posts
January 27 2014 23:28 GMT
#582
This is AMAZING I wish there were more of these. It'd be better if they maybe paid for players to travel to the venue and their accomodation, so that the players aren't losing anything by entering... but DAMN this will make every single match so epic, because you'd be spewing if you made the semis. Second place? Holy crap, the finals will be a real test of nerves of steel.

I can just imagine the final game breaking down into a base race and absolute chaos, and one player is going to look back and think "Man, if I just did this one or two things in the final match I'd be $100,000 richer..."

This will be so sick.
*Hugs all* | I came here to drink milk and kick asses, and I've just finished my milk.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
January 27 2014 23:32 GMT
#583
On January 28 2014 08:28 SpunXtain20 wrote:
This is AMAZING I wish there were more of these. It'd be better if they maybe paid for players to travel to the venue and their accomodation, so that the players aren't losing anything by entering... but DAMN this will make every single match so epic, because you'd be spewing if you made the semis. Second place? Holy crap, the finals will be a real test of nerves of steel.

I can just imagine the final game breaking down into a base race and absolute chaos, and one player is going to look back and think "Man, if I just did this one or two things in the final match I'd be $100,000 richer..."

This will be so sick.

The players competing at the event have their travel and accommodation paid for.

I wonder whether this will be a tier 1 wcs event.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 27 2014 23:33 GMT
#584
On January 28 2014 08:32 mikkmagro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 08:28 SpunXtain20 wrote:
This is AMAZING I wish there were more of these. It'd be better if they maybe paid for players to travel to the venue and their accomodation, so that the players aren't losing anything by entering... but DAMN this will make every single match so epic, because you'd be spewing if you made the semis. Second place? Holy crap, the finals will be a real test of nerves of steel.

I can just imagine the final game breaking down into a base race and absolute chaos, and one player is going to look back and think "Man, if I just did this one or two things in the final match I'd be $100,000 richer..."

This will be so sick.

The players competing at the event have their travel and accommodation paid for.

I wonder whether this will be a tier 1 wcs event.

I wonder if the WCS points will be winner take all too
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ooDi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada170 Posts
January 27 2014 23:34 GMT
#585
so the first place can continue going full time, and second place has to quit full time cuz he gets 0$
"Believe you can and you're halfway there." @UR_ooDi www.twitch.tv/ooDi_sc
BlackPride
Profile Joined July 2012
United States186 Posts
January 27 2014 23:35 GMT
#586
stephano inc.
I've never waited in line at the DMV [YVNG]
SpunXtain20
Profile Joined January 2014
Australia554 Posts
January 27 2014 23:37 GMT
#587
On January 28 2014 08:32 mikkmagro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 08:28 SpunXtain20 wrote:
This is AMAZING I wish there were more of these. It'd be better if they maybe paid for players to travel to the venue and their accomodation, so that the players aren't losing anything by entering... but DAMN this will make every single match so epic, because you'd be spewing if you made the semis. Second place? Holy crap, the finals will be a real test of nerves of steel.

I can just imagine the final game breaking down into a base race and absolute chaos, and one player is going to look back and think "Man, if I just did this one or two things in the final match I'd be $100,000 richer..."

This will be so sick.

The players competing at the event have their travel and accommodation paid for.

I wonder whether this will be a tier 1 wcs event.


Then I see absolutely no problem with the format - it'll be super exciting, there will be one super happy victor, and a few pissed off players... but IEM don't *have* to make tournaments, and they have the right to do it how they wish, and the players have the right to enter it or not.

I'd see a problem if every tournament of the year was like this... but having one really intense competition a year? No worries. It'll be super interesting and probably flood some life back into the interests of sc2.

When you think about Dota 2's "The International", it is an extremely top-heavy payout tournament - but it makes it that much more exciting. It's not to the extreme level of winner takes all, but 2nd place misses out on about $750k - granted, that's split between 5, but still more than the loser of this misses out on.
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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2720 Posts
January 27 2014 23:37 GMT
#588
On January 28 2014 08:34 ooDi wrote:
so the first place can continue going full time, and second place has to quit full time cuz he gets 0$

as well as the 14 other players who will quit full time because they get 0$.
very illegal and very uncool
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
January 27 2014 23:38 GMT
#589
On January 28 2014 08:24 ElBlanco wrote:
I think a lot of the people complaining need to take a step back and look at all the positive things IEM have done for SC2. They have done a shitload for the scene and for SC2 players in general. They have stuck by the game despite it now being pretty minor compared to other games.

Reading people say how they don't care about players is complete bullshit. They still have plenty of prize money to go around outside of this event and ultimately this money still goes to the players. If this helps them build their reputation and that of SC2 who the fuck are we or anyone in the scene to complain? This is a damn good thing for the scene as is the discussion it has generated.

The hate here is totally misplaced.

Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 08:02 Shinta) wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:58 Drmooose wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:51 Nesto wrote:
man, Jaedong is gonna be pissed.


Well if MKP comes back he won't have to worry about Konging it up anymore

On a serious note, I'm pretty excited. It's something new and no one is forcing anyone to play. Good luck to all!!

It's about the money that people won't be making. Not vice versa.

The money is supposed to bring up the hype, but like many people are saying, it might backfire and make the tournament a lot more boring than a normal IEM.


That's not even a remote possibility, that's just the usual people trying to be as negative as possible about anything that happens in the SC2 scene. Have a look how much interest this has generated already even if a fair bit is negative. It has people talking about IEM at a time when really they have been slightly forgotten.

IEM has basically taken a backseat to dreamhack. They are also competing with other esports events and decided to try something different. So far it's working and i have no problem with it.

It is remotely possible. More so than that to be quite frank.

IEM hasn't taken a backseat to DreamHack, they operate very differently.

IEM could have run an extra tournament just like this, with a $40k prize pool or something much less than a ridiculous 100k of non-circulated money, and gotten better players through invites, and had extra exposure and viewership without fucking 15 players over.

Also, getting a lot of the players that bring viewers in and make you money, angry, could lead to them picking other tournaments going on at the same time or around the same time, or when they need a break, to participate in and, and picking IEM to skip becomes a lot better of an idea.


Also, everyone knows that IEM hosting 1 huge winner takes all tournament isn't the end of the world. They are just angry at how IEM is exclaiming to the world that they don't care of right or wrong, and who gets fucked over. They made clear that this tournament isn't for the benefit of eSports or SC2 players.
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Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-27 23:40:24
January 27 2014 23:39 GMT
#590
I hope we get a P/TvZ final with a map 7 deciding game on daedalus -________-

I can understand that the players dont like it but I guess its a one time thing and it will create some extreme situations for the players coming close the top. But it also kind of says that IEM dont believe there is enough prestige in being the winner of their tournament. Its going to hurt so much for the number two, but honestly thats life and what sports are about in a way. Number 1 is what its about. As long as its a one time thing and players are obviously getting trip and expenses paid, lets see how it works out.
mindjames
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Israel433 Posts
January 27 2014 23:40 GMT
#591
All we will get from this is a grand final between two people who are choking so hard they will vomit in their booths.
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-27 23:41:05
January 27 2014 23:40 GMT
#592
Jaedong can't settle for 2nd in this one hope he plays.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2956 Posts
January 27 2014 23:41 GMT
#593
On January 28 2014 08:32 mikkmagro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 08:28 SpunXtain20 wrote:
This is AMAZING I wish there were more of these. It'd be better if they maybe paid for players to travel to the venue and their accomodation, so that the players aren't losing anything by entering... but DAMN this will make every single match so epic, because you'd be spewing if you made the semis. Second place? Holy crap, the finals will be a real test of nerves of steel.

I can just imagine the final game breaking down into a base race and absolute chaos, and one player is going to look back and think "Man, if I just did this one or two things in the final match I'd be $100,000 richer..."

This will be so sick.

The players competing at the event have their travel and accommodation paid for.

I wonder whether this will be a tier 1 wcs event.


And with this being done, I think it's okay to change the format for one event. It's not like the other players will be screwed over, they have everything paid. They have nothing to lose, but quite a lot to win
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
January 27 2014 23:42 GMT
#594
I don't care what anyone says, no one is going to miss this.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 27 2014 23:43 GMT
#595
I'm actually kind of coming around to this idea.
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
January 27 2014 23:43 GMT
#596
On January 28 2014 08:34 ooDi wrote:
so the first place can continue going full time, and second place has to quit full time cuz he gets 0$


You know, $100,000 is suspiciously right at Fruitdealer tier.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-27 23:44:42
January 27 2014 23:44 GMT
#597
On January 28 2014 08:42 Nirel wrote:
I don't care what anyone says, no one is going to miss this.


Sure people will watch it, I don't like it and I'll watch it. I'm just annoyed at how this is clearly only for the benefit of ESL and not the SC2 ecosystem or SC2 pro players as a whole. I suppose we can't blame them too much when they've already hosted so many tournaments for sc2 with a decent prize split.

They're doing this because It's the only way they can hit the target viewer numbers that they want for SC2.
McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
January 27 2014 23:44 GMT
#598
On January 28 2014 08:34 ooDi wrote:
so the first place can continue going full time, and second place has to quit full time cuz he gets 0$


If you have to retire because of one weekend tournament (world championship or not) then the problem lies a lot deeper than this and agonizing over the format is not even scraching the surface.
Detri
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom683 Posts
January 27 2014 23:44 GMT
#599
yeah, love it
The poor are thieves, beggars and whores, the rich are politicians, solicitors and courtesans...
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 27 2014 23:49 GMT
#600
I just hope this is a one time novelty thing.
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