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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
January 27 2014 22:50 GMT
#541
On January 28 2014 07:49 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 07:25 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:10 Kergy wrote:
better one


Kind of weird to see this from someone who has little to no chance of coming close to that money except maybe by hanging out with Jaedong.


JYP beat both Jaedong and Naniwa at Asus. Never forget.

Patience had a great run too.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 27 2014 22:50 GMT
#542
On January 28 2014 07:50 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 07:49 stuchiu wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:25 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:10 Kergy wrote:
better one

https://twitter.com/EGJYP/status/427917322590769153

Kind of weird to see this from someone who has little to no chance of coming close to that money except maybe by hanging out with Jaedong.


JYP beat both Jaedong and Naniwa at Asus. Never forget.

Wasnt that DH Winter?


Oh right DH winter. Never forget.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 27 2014 22:51 GMT
#543
On January 28 2014 07:47 Danish3 wrote:
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On January 28 2014 07:45 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:42 Danish3 wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:38 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:35 Danish3 wrote:
Who ever drops out of this tournament, will just show how cowardly you are, and have no faith in your own game. I know there a plenty of players out there that believe they can win this, and who ever has that mind set, has the best chance of winning this tourny

No one is going to "drop out" of this tournament, you qualify by making the finals of another IEM event. You're calling out people who don't exist absurdly early for no particular reason.


I didn't call out anybody, im not saying it will happen, but if it does happen, thats what you're telling the community and yourself. People already are talking about drop outs, the sponsers of this tournament already has the idea of a few dropouts as well.

Im not sure why you feel so sure about this, because it is a reasonable expectation.

How can people already be talking about drop outs? No one is even qualified for the tournament yet!


from the qualifiers? You are sooooooooooo against this, and so one-sided looking at only the negatives from this event.

Since you can't comprehend that I have looked at pros and cons of this and come up with my opinion based on seeing both sides, here are a list of pros that I have come up with
- unbelievable hype and tension for the final.
- more press and publicity for the tournament and potentially more viewership due to increase in interest among the community
- higher payout to one player makes that player more of a star (ie an sOs after Blizzcon rather than quiet unheralded Yoda post last years IEM world championships)

anyway those are a few, but I maintain my previous position.
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NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
January 27 2014 22:51 GMT
#544
On January 28 2014 07:50 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 07:50 NovaMB wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:49 stuchiu wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:25 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:10 Kergy wrote:
better one

https://twitter.com/EGJYP/status/427917322590769153

Kind of weird to see this from someone who has little to no chance of coming close to that money except maybe by hanging out with Jaedong.


JYP beat both Jaedong and Naniwa at Asus. Never forget.

Wasnt that DH Winter?


Oh right DH winter. Never forget.

Too late I guess
Nesto
Profile Joined November 2009
Switzerland1318 Posts
January 27 2014 22:51 GMT
#545
man, Jaedong is gonna be pissed.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 27 2014 22:51 GMT
#546
On January 28 2014 07:50 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 07:50 NovaMB wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:49 stuchiu wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:25 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:10 Kergy wrote:
better one

https://twitter.com/EGJYP/status/427917322590769153

Kind of weird to see this from someone who has little to no chance of coming close to that money except maybe by hanging out with Jaedong.


JYP beat both Jaedong and Naniwa at Asus. Never forget.

Wasnt that DH Winter?


Oh right DH winter. Never forget.

I won't ever forget, but I also don't believe the guy has a shot at getting into the finals of an IEM event or qualifying in some way, then winning the championships. I'm sorry TT
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IncubusSC
Profile Joined December 2013
Canada57 Posts
January 27 2014 22:52 GMT
#547
On January 28 2014 07:43 WolfintheSheep wrote:
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On January 28 2014 07:41 IncubusSC wrote:
This uproar just goes to show how phobic to change a large portion of this community is. Something unique gets presented and all these people get scared and nestle up inside their little imaginary safety bubbles.

How about Winner takes nothing, and 2-16 take all.

That's actually a unique idea. If you hate that, clearly you're scared and huddled in your safety bubble.


You sound a little mad. You a little mad?

User was temp banned for this post.
"Growing old is natural, growing up is optional."
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
January 27 2014 22:52 GMT
#548
From an entertainment perspective, this will be much more intense than we're used to.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-27 22:53:15
January 27 2014 22:53 GMT
#549
As for the 100k winner take all thing, everything has been mentioned in the thread except this.

People assume the finals will be hyped no matter what, but guess what? If they get a one-sided beat down ala Nestea vs Inca or sOs/Bomber/Hyun/Polt, this will be remembered as possibly the dumbest finals of all time.
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Epamynondas
Profile Joined September 2012
387 Posts
January 27 2014 22:53 GMT
#550
On an unrelated note, who's excited about IEM Sao Paulo
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 27 2014 22:53 GMT
#551
On January 28 2014 07:51 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 07:50 stuchiu wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:50 NovaMB wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:49 stuchiu wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:25 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:10 Kergy wrote:
better one

https://twitter.com/EGJYP/status/427917322590769153

Kind of weird to see this from someone who has little to no chance of coming close to that money except maybe by hanging out with Jaedong.


JYP beat both Jaedong and Naniwa at Asus. Never forget.

Wasnt that DH Winter?


Oh right DH winter. Never forget.

Too late I guess


JYP is slowly becoming Sniper.
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zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
January 27 2014 22:54 GMT
#552
this stand against the whole philosophy, of supporting the scene as a whole, which ESL followed in the past. dont like it at all.
keep it deep! @zulison
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
January 27 2014 22:55 GMT
#553
On January 28 2014 07:50 Mifoi123 wrote:
1. The secure source of income for sc2 players is: WCS AM, WCS EU and GSL. Check!
2. IEM creates a new tournament with the best 16 players for the fans to watch. Check!
3. IEM injects $100K in the sc2 scene. Check!
4. IEM tries something new. Check!
5. Everyone is talking about it and that is creating HYPE. Check!
6. Carmac is a genius imo! Check!
7. SC2 fans are unhappy? Wait what? I am HYPED! :D

Note: Look at it differently... If this tournament does not happen then nobody would mention the fact that those 16 players get nothing. Now 1 of those 16 players will get $100K, how cool is that! :D


Pretty sure IEM World Championship was already on the schedule before the season started. And last year had a $100k prize pool as well, so the real story is "15 players not getting money they thought they were qualifying for".

If this tournament does not happen, ESL would be reneging on a lot of guarantees they made several months ago.

Of course they didn't guarantee a prize distribution pre-season, but doing something this big this late is bad form.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
January 27 2014 22:55 GMT
#554
On January 28 2014 07:53 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 07:51 NovaMB wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:50 stuchiu wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:50 NovaMB wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:49 stuchiu wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:25 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:10 Kergy wrote:
better one

https://twitter.com/EGJYP/status/427917322590769153

Kind of weird to see this from someone who has little to no chance of coming close to that money except maybe by hanging out with Jaedong.


JYP beat both Jaedong and Naniwa at Asus. Never forget.

Wasnt that DH Winter?


Oh right DH winter. Never forget.

Too late I guess


JYP is slowly becoming Sniper.

who is becoming who?
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 27 2014 22:55 GMT
#555
On January 28 2014 07:50 Mifoi123 wrote:
1. The secure source of income for sc2 players is: WCS AM, WCS EU and GSL. Check!
2. IEM creates a new tournament with the best 16 players for the fans to watch. Check!
3. IEM injects $100K in the sc2 scene. Check!
4. IEM tries something new. Check!
5. Everyone is talking about it and that is creating HYPE. Check!
6. Carmac is a genius imo! Check!
7. SC2 fans are unhappy? Wait what? I am HYPED! :D

Note: Look at it differently... If this tournament does not happen then nobody would mention the fact that those 16 players get nothing. Now 1 of those 16 players will get $100K, how cool is that! :D

1. this source of income is really just okay, not all that secure.
2. This tournament has existed for a few years. Also, they might not end up with "the best 16 players for the fans to watch"
3. once again, this 100k prize pool tournament has already existed
4. No argument here, it's new!
5. Any press is good press, but this is only partially hype and partially serious issues with how the tournament will be run
6. This is a weird thing to have on this list.
7. Yeah some people are because they want to maintain a fairly large base of players who can support themselves.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
January 27 2014 22:55 GMT
#556
On January 28 2014 07:53 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 07:51 NovaMB wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:50 stuchiu wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:50 NovaMB wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:49 stuchiu wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:25 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:10 Kergy wrote:
better one

https://twitter.com/EGJYP/status/427917322590769153

Kind of weird to see this from someone who has little to no chance of coming close to that money except maybe by hanging out with Jaedong.


JYP beat both Jaedong and Naniwa at Asus. Never forget.

Wasnt that DH Winter?


Oh right DH winter. Never forget.

Too late I guess


JYP is slowly becoming Sniper.

As long as he doesnt become RorO everything will be fine
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 27 2014 22:56 GMT
#557
On January 28 2014 07:52 IncubusSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 07:43 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:41 IncubusSC wrote:
This uproar just goes to show how phobic to change a large portion of this community is. Something unique gets presented and all these people get scared and nestle up inside their little imaginary safety bubbles.

How about Winner takes nothing, and 2-16 take all.

That's actually a unique idea. If you hate that, clearly you're scared and huddled in your safety bubble.


You sound a little mad. You a little mad?

What an excellent addition to intelligent debate.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
January 27 2014 22:56 GMT
#558
On January 28 2014 07:50 Mifoi123 wrote:
1. The secure source of income for sc2 players is: WCS AM, WCS EU and GSL. Check!
2. IEM creates a new tournament with the best 16 players for the fans to watch. Check!
3. IEM injects $100K in the sc2 scene. Check!
4. IEM tries something new. Check!
5. Everyone is talking about it and that is creating HYPE. Check!
6. Carmac is a genius imo! Check!
7. SC2 fans are unhappy? Wait what? I am HYPED! :D

Note: Look at it differently... If this tournament does not happen then nobody would mention the fact that those 16 players get nothing. Now 1 of those 16 players will get $100K, how cool is that! :D

1. the secure source of income for sc2 players is WCS AM, WCS EU, and GSL, unchecked.
You screwed up the very first point dawg. Might want to look at the actual numbers. If you don't pay bills yet (real bills), just ask your parents if that's a decent enough source of I come. And don't forget, it's a totally unreliable source of income.

Note: the tournament has been scheduled for a long time. It was just recently discovered, however, that 15/16 participants would receive no prize money from it.
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
January 27 2014 22:56 GMT
#559
On January 28 2014 07:53 stuchiu wrote:
As for the 100k winner take all thing, everything has been mentioned in the thread except this.

People assume the finals will be hyped no matter what, but guess what? If they get a one-sided beat down ala Nestea vs Inca or sOs/Bomber/Hyun/Polt, this will be remembered as possibly the dumbest finals of all time.

If the final had been Inca vs Nestea, and it turned out they decided to split the money it would arguably have been the most hilarious moment in the history of Esports.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 27 2014 22:57 GMT
#560
On January 28 2014 07:56 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 07:53 stuchiu wrote:
As for the 100k winner take all thing, everything has been mentioned in the thread except this.

People assume the finals will be hyped no matter what, but guess what? If they get a one-sided beat down ala Nestea vs Inca or sOs/Bomber/Hyun/Polt, this will be remembered as possibly the dumbest finals of all time.

If the final had been Inca vs Nestea, and it turned out they decided to split the money it would arguably have been the most hilarious moment in the history of Esports.

Nestea would have been pretty pissed at himself for making that deal.
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