EPTIEM World Championship to be Winner Takes All for $100,000…
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DavoS
United States4605 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On January 28 2014 05:50 Epamynondas wrote: Except playing tournaments is actually a competition and casting is not. Actually, on a grander scale it is. The better the caster, the more jobs he/she will get. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19391 Posts
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BirdKiller
United States428 Posts
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TBO
Germany1350 Posts
On January 28 2014 05:49 JustPassingBy wrote: Socke needs to calm down, it's a crazy once in a lifetime experiment with players who are already earning a lot (that's how they qualified for this event in the first place). :-/ Here is the thing though, if the experiment wents well, then they will do it more often - which would suck for the players. And if it fails it also wasn't good for the players. So no matter how it ends, the players are always the losers. | ||
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Frankon
3054 Posts
On January 28 2014 05:50 Epamynondas wrote: Except playing tournaments is actually a competition and casting is not. FFA of the casters before the finals. First to die - no pay. 2nd to last - 50% reduction First - 50% more + intel i7 Rest - split of the 2nd to last money ^^. Its doable. PS. I can live with such a distribution for IEM WC. Technically you need to already be top 3(??) of each IEM to qualify for it. So its not like you didnt get any money. You were ALREADY paid for the last place of IEM WC - now you fight for a cherry on top - big 100k$ bonus. | ||
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gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
On January 28 2014 05:50 Epamynondas wrote: Except playing tournaments is actually a competition and casting is not. This. I hope Naniwa posts a nice twitter thingy to counter MC. I dont like whiny tweets like above. | ||
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McRatyn
Poland901 Posts
On January 28 2014 05:50 Epamynondas wrote: Except playing tournaments is actually a competition and casting is not. Exacly. Ridiculous comarison is ridiculous | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On January 28 2014 05:49 JustPassingBy wrote: Socke needs to calm down, it's a crazy once in a lifetime experiment with players who are already earning a lot (that's how they qualified for this event in the first place). :-/ And crazy ones in a lifetime experiments can not be made with casters, who are earning a lot? Socke is probably just ridiculing the system, but he has a point. | ||
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SpikeStarcraft
Germany2095 Posts
On January 28 2014 05:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Except who is the "better" caster is largely subjective. The tournament can only have one winner, and whoever that is will most likely be the better player of the pool, at least in terms of mental composure and fortitude. How do you determine "best" caster without resorting to a ridiculously stupid popularity contest poll? Is that your description of democracy? "ridiculously stupid popularity contest poll?" | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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ImperialFist
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On January 28 2014 05:52 TBO wrote: Here is the thing though, if the experiment wents well, then they will do it more often - which would suck for the players. And if it fails it also wasn't good for the players. So no matter how it ends, the players are always the losers. We don't know this and there is as of yet no reason to assume this is the case. GSL's World Championship was a massively successful event, yet we've had nothing of the sort since, for instance. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On January 28 2014 05:53 SpikeStarcraft wrote: Is that your description of democracy? "ridiculously stupid popularity contest poll?" Sure... democracy. If you seriously think the caster with the largest fanbase wouldn't win that, you're highly delusional and naive. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On January 28 2014 05:52 TBO wrote: Here is the thing though, if the experiment wents well, then they will do it more often - which would suck for the players. And if it fails it also wasn't good for the players. So no matter how it ends, the players are always the losers. I'm sure that they are reliable enough to not do that, IEM and ESL rarely disappoint (compared to other organizers). Carmac himself wrote a post how bad this format is for the "middle class", so I doubt they will ever run this format in events in which the "middle class" participates. I can imagine them runnings this format once a year amongst all the IEM winners though. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
I am that guy, who wants an autograph? But seriously, they need the money and I think they'd split if it's 100k or nothing or they'd be stupid. Missing out on that much money just because they don't like each other? I think they are smarter than that. If anything. financially well off and competitive people like JD or MC wouldn't split. | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19391 Posts
On January 28 2014 05:52 TBO wrote: Here is the thing though, if the experiment wents well, then they will do it more often - which would suck for the players. And if it fails it also wasn't good for the players. So no matter how it ends, the players are always the losers. Using the word experiment is a mistake here. It's not an experiment at all. It's literally just this one event. It's not a let's try this and form future models after it. | ||
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Epamynondas
387 Posts
On January 28 2014 05:51 JustPassingBy wrote: Actually, on a grander scale it is. The better the caster, the more jobs he/she will get. Life is nothing but a game. A game in which casters are employed by tournament organizers and progamers are employed by their teams. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On January 28 2014 05:55 Musicus wrote: https://twitter.com/Kennigit/status/427906000792719360 I am that guy, who wants an autograph? But seriously, they need the money and I think they'd split if it's 100k or nothing or they'd be stupid. Missing out on that much money just because they don't like each other? I think they are smarter than that. If anything. financially well off and competitive people like JD or MC wouldn't split. I also think that they would split. Splitting and not splitting is not about how much you hate the other player, but at how insane (in a strangely awesome way) you are. | ||
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Epamynondas
387 Posts
On January 28 2014 05:52 Frankon wrote: FFA of the casters before the finals. First to die - no pay. 2nd to last - 50% reduction First - 50% more + intel i7 Rest - split of the 2nd to last money ^^. Its doable. now THIS is something i could get behind! | ||
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