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DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
January 27 2014 20:51 GMT
#321
Whoever wins this is going to love their life
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 27 2014 20:51 GMT
#322
On January 28 2014 05:50 Epamynondas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:48 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
I like Socke's opinion.


Except playing tournaments is actually a competition and casting is not.


Actually, on a grander scale it is. The better the caster, the more jobs he/she will get.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19367 Posts
January 27 2014 20:51 GMT
#323
Why don't people who find this "disgusting" crowd fund a prize pool for the 2nd place finisher? Then he/she wouldn't have to go home with nothing and you can feel good about your contributions!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
BirdKiller
Profile Joined January 2011
United States428 Posts
January 27 2014 20:52 GMT
#324
Well, this has probably generated a lot more excitement, controversy, and intrigue than the previous IEMs so it's already working for them. As a viewer, I'm looking a lot more forward to this tournament, not only because of the reward system change, but to see how the players react and play understanding it's all or nothing.
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-27 20:53:05
January 27 2014 20:52 GMT
#325
On January 28 2014 05:49 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:48 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
I like Socke's opinion.



Socke needs to calm down, it's a crazy once in a lifetime experiment with players who are already earning a lot (that's how they qualified for this event in the first place). :-/


Here is the thing though, if the experiment wents well, then they will do it more often - which would suck for the players.
And if it fails it also wasn't good for the players.
So no matter how it ends, the players are always the losers.
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-27 20:57:47
January 27 2014 20:52 GMT
#326
On January 28 2014 05:50 Epamynondas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:48 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
I like Socke's opinion.

https://twitter.com/SockeSC2/status/427899616801980416

Except playing tournaments is actually a competition and casting is not.

FFA of the casters before the finals.
First to die - no pay.
2nd to last - 50% reduction
First - 50% more + intel i7
Rest - split of the 2nd to last money ^^.

Its doable.

PS. I can live with such a distribution for IEM WC.
Technically you need to already be top 3(??) of each IEM to qualify for it. So its not like you didnt get any money. You were ALREADY paid for the last place of IEM WC - now you fight for a cherry on top - big 100k$ bonus.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
January 27 2014 20:52 GMT
#327
On January 28 2014 05:50 Epamynondas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:48 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
I like Socke's opinion.

https://twitter.com/SockeSC2/status/427899616801980416

Except playing tournaments is actually a competition and casting is not.

This.

I hope Naniwa posts a nice twitter thingy to counter MC. I dont like whiny tweets like above.
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
January 27 2014 20:53 GMT
#328
On January 28 2014 05:50 Epamynondas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:48 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
I like Socke's opinion.

https://twitter.com/SockeSC2/status/427899616801980416

Except playing tournaments is actually a competition and casting is not.

Exacly. Ridiculous comarison is ridiculous
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
January 27 2014 20:53 GMT
#329
On January 28 2014 05:49 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:48 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
I like Socke's opinion.

https://twitter.com/SockeSC2/status/427904600616628224


Socke needs to calm down, it's a crazy once in a lifetime experiment with players who are already earning a lot (that's how they qualified for this event in the first place). :-/

And crazy ones in a lifetime experiments can not be made with casters, who are earning a lot? Socke is probably just ridiculing the system, but he has a point.
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-27 20:54:28
January 27 2014 20:53 GMT
#330
On January 28 2014 05:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:48 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
I like Socke's opinion.

https://twitter.com/SockeSC2/status/427904600616628224


Except who is the "better" caster is largely subjective.

The tournament can only have one winner, and whoever that is will most likely be the better player of the pool, at least in terms of mental composure and fortitude.

How do you determine "best" caster without resorting to a ridiculously stupid popularity contest poll?


Is that your description of democracy? "ridiculously stupid popularity contest poll?"
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
January 27 2014 20:54 GMT
#331
MC always goes into the money, this is a free win for him. Thats all i thought about when I read the OP. Sounds interesting. But I would have gotten players uncomfortable with awesome maps first.
ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
January 27 2014 20:54 GMT
#332
sorry but this is horrible news, so mad at this bullshit
"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
January 27 2014 20:54 GMT
#333
On January 28 2014 05:52 TBO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:49 JustPassingBy wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:48 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
I like Socke's opinion.

https://twitter.com/SockeSC2/status/427904600616628224


Socke needs to calm down, it's a crazy once in a lifetime experiment with players who are already earning a lot (that's how they qualified for this event in the first place). :-/


Here is the thing though, if the experiment wents well, then they will do it more often - which would suck for the players.
And if it fails it also wasn't good for the players.
So no matter how it ends, the players are always the losers.


We don't know this and there is as of yet no reason to assume this is the case.

GSL's World Championship was a massively successful event, yet we've had nothing of the sort since, for instance.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
January 27 2014 20:55 GMT
#334
On January 28 2014 05:53 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:48 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
I like Socke's opinion.

https://twitter.com/SockeSC2/status/427904600616628224


Except who is the "better" caster is largely subjective.

The tournament can only have one winner, and whoever that is will most likely be the better player of the pool, at least in terms of mental composure and fortitude.

How do you determine "best" caster without resorting to a ridiculously stupid popularity contest poll?


Is that your description of democracy? "ridiculously stupid popularity contest poll?"


Sure... democracy. If you seriously think the caster with the largest fanbase wouldn't win that, you're highly delusional and naive.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 27 2014 20:55 GMT
#335
On January 28 2014 05:52 TBO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:49 JustPassingBy wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:48 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
I like Socke's opinion.

https://twitter.com/SockeSC2/status/427904600616628224


Socke needs to calm down, it's a crazy once in a lifetime experiment with players who are already earning a lot (that's how they qualified for this event in the first place). :-/


Here is the thing though, if the experiment wents well, then they will do it more often - which would suck for the players.
And if it fails it also wasn't good for the players.
So no matter how it ends, the players are always the losers.


I'm sure that they are reliable enough to not do that, IEM and ESL rarely disappoint (compared to other organizers). Carmac himself wrote a post how bad this format is for the "middle class", so I doubt they will ever run this format in events in which the "middle class" participates.

I can imagine them runnings this format once a year amongst all the IEM winners though.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
January 27 2014 20:55 GMT
#336


I am that guy, who wants an autograph?

But seriously, they need the money and I think they'd split if it's 100k or nothing or they'd be stupid. Missing out on that much money just because they don't like each other? I think they are smarter than that.

If anything. financially well off and competitive people like JD or MC wouldn't split.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19367 Posts
January 27 2014 20:55 GMT
#337
On January 28 2014 05:52 TBO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:49 JustPassingBy wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:48 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
I like Socke's opinion.

https://twitter.com/SockeSC2/status/427904600616628224


Socke needs to calm down, it's a crazy once in a lifetime experiment with players who are already earning a lot (that's how they qualified for this event in the first place). :-/


Here is the thing though, if the experiment wents well, then they will do it more often - which would suck for the players.
And if it fails it also wasn't good for the players.
So no matter how it ends, the players are always the losers.

Using the word experiment is a mistake here. It's not an experiment at all. It's literally just this one event. It's not a let's try this and form future models after it.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Epamynondas
Profile Joined September 2012
387 Posts
January 27 2014 20:56 GMT
#338
On January 28 2014 05:51 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:50 Epamynondas wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:48 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
I like Socke's opinion.

https://twitter.com/SockeSC2/status/427899616801980416

Except playing tournaments is actually a competition and casting is not.


Actually, on a grander scale it is. The better the caster, the more jobs he/she will get.

Life is nothing but a game.


A game in which casters are employed by tournament organizers and progamers are employed by their teams.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 27 2014 20:57 GMT
#339
On January 28 2014 05:55 Musicus wrote:
https://twitter.com/Kennigit/status/427906000792719360

I am that guy, who wants an autograph?

But seriously, they need the money and I think they'd split if it's 100k or nothing or they'd be stupid. Missing out on that much money just because they don't like each other? I think they are smarter than that.

If anything. financially well off and competitive people like JD or MC wouldn't split.


I also think that they would split. Splitting and not splitting is not about how much you hate the other player, but at how insane (in a strangely awesome way) you are.
Epamynondas
Profile Joined September 2012
387 Posts
January 27 2014 20:57 GMT
#340
On January 28 2014 05:52 Frankon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:50 Epamynondas wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:48 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
I like Socke's opinion.

https://twitter.com/SockeSC2/status/427899616801980416

Except playing tournaments is actually a competition and casting is not.

FFA of the casters before the finals.
First to die - no pay.
2nd to last - 50% reduction
First - 50% more + intel i7
Rest - split of the 2nd to last money ^^.

Its doable.

now THIS is something i could get behind!
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