Starbow - Page 98

On January 20 2014 17:07 Darksoldierr wrote:


Probably because of the AI and the engine. Zerglings are smarter to get surface area than in BW, where they literally linked behind eachanother a bit before trying to cover an enemy unit from each sides

But also in return, you are able to control your marines (and every other unit) lot easier, than in BW

On January 20 2014 17:53 ANLProbe wrote:
This is just an idea that I came up with that could be pretty cool for bio. What if you could merge a medic and dropship and it would turn into a medivac (like what you would do to merge DTs/HTs into Archons). This way, you can still go for early marine medic pressure, drops would be a bit better as if you want to heal then medics wouldn't take up dropship space and bio players don't really have much incentive to build dropships. It would also make bio more viable in TvP. Also, why were marauders range reduced?

On January 20 2014 18:25 KenZy wrote:
Hey, i'm the one (glio) who won vs Losira in Razer Tournament, i come from bw and also played sc2 and i have to say ZvT seems really hard for terran. I played my first game on Starbow during this tournament, just used my bw builds and it seems really strong. I also think that baneling should maybe remove cuz zerg is already really strong and it makes ZvZ not really interesting to play/watch but that's just my point of view. I'm maybe saying that cuz i'm mad to have lost in a zvz cuz i didn't know how to play that with baneling and didn't know queens could attack :D.

It was really fun to play, hope to see some others tournaments and next time i will be ready for some zvz =)

On January 20 2014 18:29 Hider wrote:


TvZ is probably also the matchup where you get hurt the most for not using terrans macromechanics properly (as Losira doesn't do yet).

So we think over time terran players will adapt better to the matchup in the early game, but we still believe that terran could use an early game buff vs zerg.

On January 20 2014 18:31 Orek wrote:
Update on my gas research (Reference:[G] ~8% faster gas mining )



Center grid of vespene geyser (3X3 building)


It is not my mistake that [A,45-90] is not 100% unlike other "A" locations. Gas at that angle is always mined a bit more slowly. (checked multiple times) Therefore, in starbow, using "B" locations instead of "A" is preferable when making symmetrical maps. (all maps should be symmetrical anyways) Although it limits map design, "B" and "G" locations need to become standard. Note that with 1 or 2 workers, there is difference in mining speed even among these 12 "B" and "G" locations, but it might be too extreme to make a single angle the only standard one. Considering that mining with 3 workers is by far the most common, it makes sense to ensure that, at least, mining efficiency remains the same for all players no matter where they spawn as long as they use 3 workers are for gas.

Here are the vespene geysers whose placements need to be fixed ([A,45-90] is collored with orange. Other inefficient ones are yellow.)

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On January 20 2014 19:45 Fencar wrote:
Massive props to the devs of Starbow! I've been loving the game over my miniscule estimate of 4-6 games played, and your responses to community feedback (from my viewpoint, at least) are outstanding.

It feels like Marauders might be a bit weak though. Probably just me; I should probably macro better to get 'more' Bio units out, but they feel like they don't do too much damage and die about as fast as before. Marines feel a bit similar, at least in TvP. Reavers are pretty strong!

Also, I really want to try to go Bio-Tank or some form of Bio-Mech- anyone got any ideas for this kind of playstyle in TvP and TvT in terms of what kinds of units would be useful in what roles?

For TvT, I'm a little lost because Tanks are so strong. I'm not really sure how I would go about doing anything other than straight Mech in TvT without having really strong mechanics, at which point I could probably go Mech more effectively at this point in the game.

This would probably play similar to normal SC2 TvT, but maybe Ghosts to stop Tanks from attacking? I'm not sure if I'd be able to hit the Tanks with the Ghost ability that stops them from attacking though, since Tanks still have an awful lot of range and the projectile for the Ghost's ability is pretty slow.

For TvP I was thinking some Firebats in front, mostly Marine/Marauder core being very aggressive on multiple fronts with dropships, and then dumping gas into Tanks and Science Vessels. I was thinking maybe Ghosts to disable the Reavers long enough to focus them down with Marauders, and I'm probably going to try it, but the costs are pretty high.