All you die-hard BW guys advocating unit select caps and removing autocast don't get it- If you do that, you will kill what little chance Starbow has of becoming more than a little niche game.

You've got your limelight this week- Don't spoil it by becoming rabid fanboys and alienating your potential player base.

If you just want the same small and ever dwindling fanbase BW has had outside of Korea, then yes, please continue adding UI impediments to discourage players and artificially raise the skill ceiling.

DeadzergSC2

Canada21 Posts

January 16 2014 03:54 GMT

#982

Playing this has been incredibly fun and refreshing. I am very glad this mod has come along.

purakushi

United States3302 Posts

January 16 2014 03:54 GMT

#983

+1 to having a version where smartcast is off
also, increasing supply cap to 250 would be interesting.

dgwow

Canada1024 Posts

January 16 2014 03:55 GMT

#984

It's pretty cool that Protoss has a new unit added. Any chance that terran and zerg will get one as well?

Bagi

Germany6799 Posts

January 16 2014 04:02 GMT

#985

Honestly as great as BW is I think the mod plays a bit too much like it already. Going down the BW route of crippling the UI will just further pigeonhole the mod down that road.

Just because BW did things one way doesn't mean its the only way to do things. Its amazing how many people can't seem to grasp this idea.

knyttym

United States5797 Posts

January 16 2014 04:09 GMT

#986

Just going to chime in. It's quite fun so far and pretty entertaining to watch. I really enjoyed sc2bw and 6mineral 1 high yield gas maps as well. Only thing annoying me right now is inability to find games quickly. I basically settle for anyone who answers me in chat and don't get the best games there. Perhaps a loading screen that links to a website where people can find matches? Even if the game is extremely fun, if I can't find games I'll turn away quickly. It happened just recently for me when I started laddering on iccup again. Finding games even at the lowest level took several minutes of spamming. I stopped looking after a week.
edit: ya just now waiting 15minutes kind of sucks. T.T.

Roswell

United States250 Posts

January 16 2014 04:20 GMT

#987

On January 16 2014 12:36 superpanda27 wrote:

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Wat?
Why? What does that have to do with what that other guy said? He said the problem (one of the problems) is no rush 3 base deathball vs deathball. How would removing tier 1 units remedy that?

If you remove the tier 1 bread and butter units, (with some balancing,) you would probably have a more open ended outcome. Right now they only place Starbow is heading is to a slower more boring sc2. Im just throwing out suggestions, people have tried low bases, why not try no tier 1? There would be 1/5th the game ending cheese and players could expand earlier.

thepuppyassassin

900 Posts

January 16 2014 04:35 GMT

#988

Huh.. One guy did this? What an embarrassment to the SC2 development team..

Oh nvm read the credits. Embarassment? I'd still say so.

SCST

Mexico1609 Posts

January 16 2014 04:39 GMT

#989

Really enjoying watching Starbow when it's available.

I feel like the Stalker is a bit redundant. Any thoughts on eliminating the Stalker and giving Dragoons a late game blink? Or is that too crazy . . .

Also agree that autocast should remain as it is. The game is already going to reflect better skill compared to SC2 by an enormous margin. No reason to take things too far and alienate people.

Grumbels

Netherlands7032 Posts

January 16 2014 04:40 GMT

#990

Limited unit selection is pointless to bring up, considering it's not possible in the sc2 editor. We can discuss the merits of smartcast without having to deal with scare tactics about completely reverting to bw ui, please.

LambChopp3r

United States1 Post

January 16 2014 04:45 GMT

#991

How can you play this game?

Plansix

United States60190 Posts

January 16 2014 04:48 GMT

#992

On January 16 2014 13:35 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Huh.. One guy did this? What an embarrassment to the SC2 development team..

Oh nvm read the credits. Embarassment? I'd still say so.

I am pretty sure they Blizzard is just fine with this mod being out there. But people will think what they will.

fLyiNgDroNe

Belgium4105 Posts

January 16 2014 04:50 GMT

#993

no way smartcast needs to be off. Its one of the few improvements in sc2 that needs to stay!

Cheren

United States2911 Posts

January 16 2014 04:50 GMT

#994

On January 16 2014 13:48 Plansix wrote:

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I am pretty sure they Blizzard is just fine with this mod being out there. But people will think what they will.

I think when the editor was announced they said they hoped people would recreate Brood War in the editor, I think if anything they're pleased they were right about the power of the editor.

Plansix

United States60190 Posts

January 16 2014 04:55 GMT

#995

On January 16 2014 13:50 Cheren wrote:

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I think when the editor was announced they said they hoped people would recreate Brood War in the editor, I think if anything they're pleased they were right about the power of the editor.

Yeah, I don't really get people who think Blizzard would feel threatened by any user made mod.

neoghaleon55

United States7435 Posts

January 16 2014 04:58 GMT

#996

man
I just realized
with patch 2.1 coming
Starbow will be FREE TO PLAY FOR EVERYONE!!!!!!!!

Bagi

Germany6799 Posts

January 16 2014 05:01 GMT

#997

On January 16 2014 13:58 neoghaleon55 wrote:
man
I just realized
with patch 2.1 coming
Starbow will be FREE TO PLAY FOR EVERYONE!!!!!!!!

Yep, that could be one of its biggest selling points too.

ZenithM

France15952 Posts

January 16 2014 05:04 GMT

#998

On January 16 2014 14:01 Bagi wrote:

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Yep, that could be one of its biggest selling points too.

And they make it into an extension mod, it could be played on every melee map ever released for SC2. Could be good too :D

neoghaleon55

United States7435 Posts

January 16 2014 05:05 GMT

#999

On January 16 2014 14:01 Bagi wrote:

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Yep, that could be one of its biggest selling points too.

Watch blizzard will back out of patch 2.1 because they realize starbow would destroy them.

thepuppyassassin

900 Posts

January 16 2014 05:07 GMT

#1000

On January 16 2014 13:55 Plansix wrote:

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Yeah, I don't really get people who think Blizzard would feel threatened by any user made mod.

Well conceptually, If you create something and constantly tell people that it is as good as it will get or at the very least must remain the way it is, meanwhile someone with limited time and resources is able to take the thing you created and make it so that people actually like it. It might very well inspire feelings of inadequacy. Does that help you understand?