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Alex Garfield and Jaedong make Forbes 30 under 30

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kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 00:23:04
January 07 2014 00:16 GMT
#1
http://www.forbes.com/special-report/2014/30-under-30/games.html


Alexander Garfield
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CEO, Evil Geniuses

Creator of Evil Geniuses, the world's leading professional video gaming team, which currently has 15 full-time paid employees and 45 full-time paid players. Garfield's roster includes some of the world's best from popular e-Sports titles like StarCraft and League of Legends.


Jaedong Lee
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Professional gamer

One of the world's most successful professional gamers, nicknamed "The Tyrant" and "The Legend Killer." Lee is a World Cyber Games champion, two-time StarCraft League champion, and one of the highest-earning e-Sports players ever, taking home more than $489,000 in prize money over the course of his career so far.


TheGunRun and Justin Wong from Twitch were also mentioned. Congrats!

EDIT: Also Day 9! Forgot about him, but he transcends just esports in my humble opinion.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
January 07 2014 00:18 GMT
#2
Wow congrats to them! Jaedong hwaiting!
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
January 07 2014 00:20 GMT
#3
Add day 9 to that list too.

Best known by the alias "Day[9]," this professional gamer turned broadcaster is one of the biggest names in the world of e-sports: Once a top-ranked StarCraft player, he turned a daily webshow into an entire site for gamers, and he works as a commentator at tournaments worldwide. In 2013 he joined Artillery, a startup developing strategy games for the web.
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Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
January 07 2014 00:21 GMT
#4
You forgot to mention Day9. (which has a really cool photo in the article). Garfield's spot on the list is definitely earned though. He knows how to lead a team.
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thirtyapm
Profile Joined January 2012
521 Posts
January 07 2014 00:23 GMT
#5
congrats guys nice work
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 00:26:37
January 07 2014 00:25 GMT
#6
On January 07 2014 09:16 kakaman wrote:
http://www.forbes.com/special-report/2014/30-under-30/games.html

Jaedong Lee
23
Professional gamer

One of the world's most successful professional gamers, nicknamed "The Tyrant" and "The Legend Killer." Lee is a World Cyber Games champion, two-time StarCraft League champion, and one of the highest-earning e-Sports players ever, taking home more than $489,000 in prize money over the course of his career so far.


I hate to be that guy but isn't Jaedong by monetary definition the most successful player (which I'd assume is the metric one would use when dealing with different games and different eras), and hasn't he earned over $500,000?
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kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
January 07 2014 00:27 GMT
#7
On January 07 2014 09:25 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 09:16 kakaman wrote:
http://www.forbes.com/special-report/2014/30-under-30/games.html

Jaedong Lee
23
Professional gamer

One of the world's most successful professional gamers, nicknamed "The Tyrant" and "The Legend Killer." Lee is a World Cyber Games champion, two-time StarCraft League champion, and one of the highest-earning e-Sports players ever, taking home more than $489,000 in prize money over the course of his career so far.


I hate to be that guy but isn't Jaedong by monetary definition the most successful player (which I'd assume is the metric one would use when dealing with different games and different eras), and hasn't he earned over $500,000?


http://www.esportsearnings.com/players/1507/jaedong

Looks like the blurb was written before the two small tournaments he won (ends with WCS)
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 07 2014 00:28 GMT
#8
On January 07 2014 09:25 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 09:16 kakaman wrote:
http://www.forbes.com/special-report/2014/30-under-30/games.html

Jaedong Lee
23
Professional gamer

One of the world's most successful professional gamers, nicknamed "The Tyrant" and "The Legend Killer." Lee is a World Cyber Games champion, two-time StarCraft League champion, and one of the highest-earning e-Sports players ever, taking home more than $489,000 in prize money over the course of his career so far.


I hate to be that guy but isn't Jaedong by monetary definition the most successful player (which I'd assume is the metric one would use when dealing with different games and different eras), and hasn't he earned over $500,000?


since when exactitude has been brought back in journalism ?
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
January 07 2014 00:28 GMT
#9
I think you should change the title. Ofc they'll be found under the Games section. Not necessarily overall.
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2142 Posts
January 07 2014 00:29 GMT
#10
Keep in mind that this list is only for people affiliated with games/gaming
vibeo gane,
sotaporo
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland195 Posts
January 07 2014 00:31 GMT
#11
heh started reading with mentality "oh thats cool". after reading started feeling like a piece of shit when i realized that these actually are ether same age or younger than me. fuck
-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
January 07 2014 00:38 GMT
#12
They should've counted Jaedong's salaries
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 07 2014 00:41 GMT
#13
On January 07 2014 09:38 -niL wrote:
They should've counted Jaedong's salaries


I didn't realise they were publicly disclosed. Do you have a link?
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 00:44:28
January 07 2014 00:43 GMT
#14
Fuck all that, GUNRUN was on there. He is the master of the stream and "Best Sand King because he wanted to impress a girl" out there. We must celebrate his glory.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 00:45:37
January 07 2014 00:44 GMT
#15
Once you start counting salaries things would get messy. Not all salaries are public information, so looking for the competitive gamer who has had the most lucrative career isn't really possible without insider info.

On January 07 2014 09:43 Plansix wrote:
Fuck all that, GUNRUN was on there. He is the master of the stream and "Best Sand King because he wanted to impress a girl" out there. We must celebrate his glory.


Haha awesome, and well deserved. I didn't even see him when I skimmed it.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 00:46:52
January 07 2014 00:46 GMT
#16
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shikata ga nai
-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
January 07 2014 01:08 GMT
#17
On January 07 2014 09:41 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 09:38 -niL wrote:
They should've counted Jaedong's salaries


I didn't realise they were publicly disclosed. Do you have a link?

No, but I am pretty sure he received more in salaries than in prize money. They could've stated that.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 07 2014 01:12 GMT
#18
On January 07 2014 10:08 -niL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 09:41 Zealously wrote:
On January 07 2014 09:38 -niL wrote:
They should've counted Jaedong's salaries


I didn't realise they were publicly disclosed. Do you have a link?

No, but I am pretty sure he received more in salaries than in prize money. They could've stated that.


There are a lot of rumors circulating about Flash's and JD's salaries and hardly any have substance to them. The fact that he's the winningest player in esport through tournaments alone is enough, no need to complicate things with guesswork and hearsay.
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
January 07 2014 01:14 GMT
#19
Rain should have got it IMO, Hot6ix Cup was stacked.

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J/K, congrats JD! :D
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
January 07 2014 01:14 GMT
#20
Grats to TheGunRun !
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
January 07 2014 01:15 GMT
#21
how did garfield get into this game, was he a quake pro, or i just imagining it?
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
January 07 2014 01:16 GMT
#22
On January 07 2014 09:43 Plansix wrote:
Fuck all that, GUNRUN was on there. He is the master of the stream and "Best Sand King because he wanted to impress a girl" out there. We must celebrate his glory.


have had korean food with him can confirm.

is beast.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 01:19:54
January 07 2014 01:19 GMT
#23
two-time StarCraft League champion

LOL

Congratulations to our 4 (at least) boys Garfield, JD, Day[9], and TheGunRun!! They more than deserve the honor for all their hard work.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 07 2014 01:23 GMT
#24
On January 07 2014 10:15 Sub40APM wrote:
how did garfield get into this game, was he a quake pro, or i just imagining it?

I think he played on a Quake or CS team and thats how EQ got its start. Then he kept going after college and BANG, we are where we are today.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
January 07 2014 01:39 GMT
#25
On January 07 2014 10:23 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 10:15 Sub40APM wrote:
how did garfield get into this game, was he a quake pro, or i just imagining it?

I think he played on a Quake or CS team and thats how EQ got its start. Then he kept going after college and BANG, we are where we are today.
ya, that makes sense, i guess i meant more in terms of where he got his initial capital from. its one thing to Day9 or Destiny yourself into a successful solo career, its another thing to get other people to sign onboard...
Verator
Profile Joined June 2010
United States283 Posts
January 07 2014 01:49 GMT
#26
On January 07 2014 09:16 kakaman wrote:
EDIT: Also Day 9! Forgot about him, but he transcends just esports in my humble opinion.


I don't think you can really say he transcends esports, when he only really has a presence in starcraft 2. Outside of starcraft, he's a really small figure relative to the rest of gaming.
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Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
January 07 2014 01:54 GMT
#27
This list feels like a joke to me.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
January 07 2014 02:00 GMT
#28
Took me a minute to realize "Justin Wong" wasn't the fighting game Justin Wong.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
January 07 2014 02:00 GMT
#29
On January 07 2014 10:15 Sub40APM wrote:
how did garfield get into this game, was he a quake pro, or i just imagining it?


Don't think he was ever a progamer, he was a writer for the old team EG, everyone else quit, he found the team new sponsors and became CEO.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
January 07 2014 02:08 GMT
#30
On January 07 2014 11:00 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Took me a minute to realize "Justin Wong" wasn't the fighting game Justin Wong.

It's not?? That explains the complete lack of resemblance...(feeling stupid lol)
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 07 2014 02:23 GMT
#31
Well that makes sense. But isn't gaming a bit of a narrow category? It's a victory, but I'd be surprised if no one from SC2 made this list.
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
January 07 2014 02:34 GMT
#32
On January 07 2014 11:23 Bagration wrote:
Well that makes sense. But isn't gaming a bit of a narrow category? It's a victory, but I'd be surprised if no one from SC2 made this list.

It's more narrow then, say, Science or Tech, but a lot less narrow than something like Music or Hollywood.

Frankly, I'd think the category would be filled with young successful indie devs, or guys making new hardware or sites/platforms.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
January 07 2014 03:26 GMT
#33
Congrats to the 5 people who made it in there related to our scene!
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
January 07 2014 03:43 GMT
#34
Jaedong is a 2 time Starcraft League champion? More like 10 times...
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 04:39:59
January 07 2014 04:34 GMT
#35
On January 07 2014 10:08 -niL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 09:41 Zealously wrote:
On January 07 2014 09:38 -niL wrote:
They should've counted Jaedong's salaries


I didn't realise they were publicly disclosed. Do you have a link?

No, but I am pretty sure he received more in salaries than in prize money. They could've stated that.

I don't think we can know how much they made from their salary but its probably around as much as the prize money. I wouldn't be surprised if Flash made more than 200 k per year in salary alone in the end (thats about how much Nada made in his prime in BW http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=16156).

Its safe to say that Jaedong made less money than Flash since he was on a poor team (OZ). He got offers to play for a higher salary on other teams (it was rumored that SKT wanted to buy him when he was a free agent - I don't remember if that rumour ever was confirmed though), but he wanted to stay with OZ and coach Cho.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
January 07 2014 04:36 GMT
#36
On January 07 2014 12:43 wptlzkwjd wrote:
Jaedong is a 2 time Starcraft League champion? More like 10 times...

Well, that part is true. He did win MSL twice which is MBCGame Starcraft League.

However, he also won the Ongamenet Starleague 3 times.
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tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 05:35:18
January 07 2014 04:49 GMT
#37
Wow congrats, EG is truly the best thing in eSports!!

Edit: Not calling Forbes or OP racist, but that chinese guy they have on there is not the Justin Wong from Fighting Games! hopethatsclear of /s
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BirdKiller
Profile Joined January 2011
United States428 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 07:31:48
January 07 2014 07:14 GMT
#38
When I read the thread title, I was impressed that they made into a Forbes list, but then was a bit disappointed it was under games focus only. Hell, disappointed they divided up into categories such that it's more a list of "450 under 30" with the games category not being really competitive to get in on compared to say finance and tech. Congrats to those four however. They absolutely deserve the publicity and being able to put something like this on their resume.
DaftFunk
Profile Joined June 2013
194 Posts
January 07 2014 07:29 GMT
#39
them being on the list essentially lowered forbe's top x lists credibility even more.
Ruin
Profile Joined July 2011
United States271 Posts
January 07 2014 07:34 GMT
#40
Congrats!
mki
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Poland882 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 07:39:11
January 07 2014 07:37 GMT
#41
Get_Right from CS:GO is on the main graphic with all that people. Too bad it's not SC2 but still esports!

edit: Wait nevermind just a look alike...
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Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-11 19:03:05
January 11 2014 17:54 GMT
#42
Well, technically JD won WCG Korea, not WCG... but whatever. Congratulations to all!

Edit: Oops forgot 2009.
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ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
January 11 2014 18:05 GMT
#43
On January 07 2014 16:29 DaftFunk wrote:
them being on the list essentially lowered forbe's top x lists credibility even more.


lol it's 30 under 30 for gaming. You can come up with 30 guys that focus on gaming that deserve this more?
Please lol
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Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
January 11 2014 18:11 GMT
#44
On January 12 2014 02:54 Hier wrote:
Well, technically JD won WCG Korea, not WCG... but whatever. Congratulations to all!

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/WCG_2009
...
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
January 11 2014 18:14 GMT
#45
On January 12 2014 02:54 Hier wrote:
Well, technically JD won WCG Korea, not WCG... but whatever. Congratulations to all!

No, he won WCG in 2009 too. He beat Stork in the finals.

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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
January 11 2014 18:25 GMT
#46
Exposure for eSports stars is always a good thing. Congrats to all of the people mentioned in this thread.
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Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
January 11 2014 19:02 GMT
#47
Ugh my bad, forgot about 2009.
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