EPTOn December 10 2013 18:01 WolfintheSheep wrote:
The problem is that you're trying to link one minor chat "incident" (and it barely even qualifies for that) to Revival's attitude in general, and his leaving EG.
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On December 10 2013 17:38 mongmong wrote:
So EG didn't tell anything to Revival knowing that he would be attending IEM. Revival thought EG management was being lazy therefore called his team trash.
I don't know what has changed really? EG didn't do anything wrong. Revival made a stupid mistake of calling his team trash in a lobby with 10+ people or it could be interpreted as "EG being incompetent"
On December 10 2013 17:28 Seeker wrote:
She stated that Revival said what he said because he thought EG purposely didn't tell him about WCG qualifiers, when in fact, EG just didn't say anything because they knew he was going to be at IEM during that time.
So while it wasn't necessarily a mistake on your part, a mistake did occur because of the lack of information behind that screenshot conversation.
On December 10 2013 16:47 mongmong wrote:
I don't care what people think about Revival tbh... if you want to look nice to others, don't say shit like that when 10+ people are with you in the lobby, simple isnt it? Maybe we should trace the guy(or girl) who took the screenshot! he probably uploaded it on the internet with some malicious intent
By correcting mistake? what mistake? I haven't made any mistake. That girl was just furious about Revival getting bad image lol.
On December 10 2013 16:22 Seeker wrote:
It was just a mistake on Revival's part. No one's perfect. We've all said things we didn't mean really mean to. It's just natural to talk about that kind of stuff with your friends. I'm sure Revival was just a little upset.
In fact, dearyuna stated that Revival and EG parted on good terms. So that screenshot doesn't mean anything anymore.
dearyuna is a she. She is a well known translator in the world of eSports and highly respected. And honestly, I'd be maaaaaaaaaaaaaaad too.
She's not "bitching" about it. She's just trying to correct your mistake.
There was nothing wrong with what you did. Uploading a screenshot and translating what the players say is a common thing that occurs frequently. However, yuna pointed out that this conversation occurred a long time ago, and that it was also a misunderstanding between EG and Revival.
Because of what you posted, people formed negative opinions about Revival. yuna was just trying to clarify things by explaining things in better context so that people would understand that while Revival made a mistake, it was all just a big misunderstanding.
On December 10 2013 14:43 mongmong wrote:
And yeah ,let's call your team trash when other players/observers/casters are all in the lobby shall we? I have nothing against Revival, but comments like that show people how immature those players are. You did admit it was unprofessional didn't you? I'd also like to read the connenction between being professional and being a nice guy because funnily enough you mentioned him being suuuuuper nice to you lololol
On December 10 2013 03:16 dearyuna wrote:
Okay, seriously, lower your pitchforks please. I think you guys took the screenshot completely out of context. Can we at least have a full translation instead of picking and choosing which parts to translate and which parts to not? Shame on you mongmong.
Revival: Where do I register?
Symbol: This friday
Revival: They don't even tell us things like this
HyuN: But hey Revival (He called Revival Jjakddongah, which is a nickname that the TSL players use for him)
Symbol: If you go into the site
Revival: This is really a trash team
Symbol: It says it there
Hyun: There's an overlap with WCG qualifiers
Symbol: lolol
Hyun: and IEM finals
Yes, it's true, Revival used the term "trash team." Yes, it was unprofessional, and yes, it was quite rude. Yes, he was stupid for leaving his stream on by accident while he was having this conversation.
However, this conversation, from what I understand from talking to Revival, isn't even recent. This was his own personal conversation that he was having with HyuN and Symbol BEFORE WCG 2013 Qualifiers (Based on HyuN's comment in the conversation), which was back in July. This was a misunderstanding. Revival thought that EG didn't tell him about WCG qualifiers, but that was because Revival would be in Shanghai for IEM (which he ended up winning if memory serves me right.)
Revival was simply having a bad day and this was ONE moment where he was experiencing frustration. It wasn't right to take it out on his team, but **** happens, and everyone's a human who makes mistakes. When I talked to Revival about it, he felt bad/sorry that this came up online, but he didn't know how to address it or go about it, which is why I'm writing this for him.
I know Revival, HyuN, and Symbol personally from working with TSL before it disbanded, and Revival is a super humble person who PROBABLY, other than HyuN, shows the greatest amount of empathy for others. When my father had a heart attack a while back, Revival was one of the first people who checked up on me.
Please don't ruin someone's image for something that's taken largely out of context. No where in that screenshot does he complain about his salary or anything like that. He left EG on good terms and he has a lot of respect for that team.
Thanks.
On December 09 2013 20:59 boxerfred wrote:
Let's be honest, if we leave out the hipster fans, noone really likes Revival, aLive, or Oz. I was a Revival fan myself for a long time 'cause I kind of liked his early 2012 playstyle, and I was a a TSL fanboy for some time. But somehow I lost interest (found out about that Life kid royal roading back in 2012 and was thrilled). If that lobby talk is correct ("trash team"), I'm not having any respect for him left. It doesn't matter how good or bad your team treats you, as long as you're in it, you do not pull a totalbiscuit.
Let's be honest, if we leave out the hipster fans, noone really likes Revival, aLive, or Oz. I was a Revival fan myself for a long time 'cause I kind of liked his early 2012 playstyle, and I was a a TSL fanboy for some time. But somehow I lost interest (found out about that Life kid royal roading back in 2012 and was thrilled). If that lobby talk is correct ("trash team"), I'm not having any respect for him left. It doesn't matter how good or bad your team treats you, as long as you're in it, you do not pull a totalbiscuit.
Okay, seriously, lower your pitchforks please. I think you guys took the screenshot completely out of context. Can we at least have a full translation instead of picking and choosing which parts to translate and which parts to not? Shame on you mongmong.
Revival: Where do I register?
Symbol: This friday
Revival: They don't even tell us things like this
HyuN: But hey Revival (He called Revival Jjakddongah, which is a nickname that the TSL players use for him)
Symbol: If you go into the site
Revival: This is really a trash team
Symbol: It says it there
Hyun: There's an overlap with WCG qualifiers
Symbol: lolol
Hyun: and IEM finals
Yes, it's true, Revival used the term "trash team." Yes, it was unprofessional, and yes, it was quite rude. Yes, he was stupid for leaving his stream on by accident while he was having this conversation.
However, this conversation, from what I understand from talking to Revival, isn't even recent. This was his own personal conversation that he was having with HyuN and Symbol BEFORE WCG 2013 Qualifiers (Based on HyuN's comment in the conversation), which was back in July. This was a misunderstanding. Revival thought that EG didn't tell him about WCG qualifiers, but that was because Revival would be in Shanghai for IEM (which he ended up winning if memory serves me right.)
Revival was simply having a bad day and this was ONE moment where he was experiencing frustration. It wasn't right to take it out on his team, but **** happens, and everyone's a human who makes mistakes. When I talked to Revival about it, he felt bad/sorry that this came up online, but he didn't know how to address it or go about it, which is why I'm writing this for him.
I know Revival, HyuN, and Symbol personally from working with TSL before it disbanded, and Revival is a super humble person who PROBABLY, other than HyuN, shows the greatest amount of empathy for others. When my father had a heart attack a while back, Revival was one of the first people who checked up on me.
Please don't ruin someone's image for something that's taken largely out of context. No where in that screenshot does he complain about his salary or anything like that. He left EG on good terms and he has a lot of respect for that team.
Thanks.
And yeah ,let's call your team trash when other players/observers/casters are all in the lobby shall we? I have nothing against Revival, but comments like that show people how immature those players are. You did admit it was unprofessional didn't you? I'd also like to read the connenction between being professional and being a nice guy because funnily enough you mentioned him being suuuuuper nice to you lololol
It was just a mistake on Revival's part. No one's perfect. We've all said things we didn't mean really mean to. It's just natural to talk about that kind of stuff with your friends. I'm sure Revival was just a little upset.
In fact, dearyuna stated that Revival and EG parted on good terms. So that screenshot doesn't mean anything anymore.
On December 10 2013 14:55 mongmong wrote:
That kid was just overreacting. I had no intention of bashing Revival and apparently translating a chat log
made him maaaaaaaaaaaaaad lololol
On December 10 2013 14:51 lichter wrote:
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That kid was just overreacting. I had no intention of bashing Revival and apparently translating a chat log
made him maaaaaaaaaaaaaad lololol
dearyuna is a she. She is a well known translator in the world of eSports and highly respected. And honestly, I'd be maaaaaaaaaaaaaaad too.
On December 10 2013 15:22 mongmong wrote:
Yeah the thing is, She and I both admitted it was unprofessional behaviorand I don't understand why she keeps bitching about it.
On December 10 2013 15:12 Elite_ wrote:
That "kid" was actually the translator for TSL... She knows Revival personally and is a lot better than you at predicting Revival's personal feelings on the matter, mostly because she actually talks to him.
On December 10 2013 14:55 mongmong wrote:
That kid was just overreacting. I had no intention of bashing Revival and apparently translating a chat log
made him maaaaaaaaaaaaaad lololol
On December 10 2013 14:51 lichter wrote:
Translator grudgematch gogogo
Translator grudgematch gogogo
That kid was just overreacting. I had no intention of bashing Revival and apparently translating a chat log
made him maaaaaaaaaaaaaad lololol
That "kid" was actually the translator for TSL... She knows Revival personally and is a lot better than you at predicting Revival's personal feelings on the matter, mostly because she actually talks to him.
Yeah the thing is, She and I both admitted it was unprofessional behaviorand I don't understand why she keeps bitching about it.
She's not "bitching" about it. She's just trying to correct your mistake.
On December 10 2013 15:32 mongmong wrote:
Where? how? I uploaded a screenshot, translated chat log and called it unprofessional. That was all I did and I don't know how im trying to make him look like a bad person. Oh yeah im pretty sure he is a nice guy if his friend says so but being nice=/ being professional.
On December 10 2013 15:28 Elite_ wrote:
Because you're making Revival look like a bad person when he's not.
On December 10 2013 15:22 mongmong wrote:
Yeah the thing is, She and I both admitted it was unprofessional behaviorand I don't understand why she keeps bitching about it.
On December 10 2013 15:12 Elite_ wrote:
That "kid" was actually the translator for TSL... She knows Revival personally and is a lot better than you at predicting Revival's personal feelings on the matter, mostly because she actually talks to him.
On December 10 2013 14:55 mongmong wrote:
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That kid was just overreacting. I had no intention of bashing Revival and apparently translating a chat log
made him maaaaaaaaaaaaaad lololol
[quote]
That kid was just overreacting. I had no intention of bashing Revival and apparently translating a chat log
made him maaaaaaaaaaaaaad lololol
That "kid" was actually the translator for TSL... She knows Revival personally and is a lot better than you at predicting Revival's personal feelings on the matter, mostly because she actually talks to him.
Yeah the thing is, She and I both admitted it was unprofessional behaviorand I don't understand why she keeps bitching about it.
Because you're making Revival look like a bad person when he's not.
Where? how? I uploaded a screenshot, translated chat log and called it unprofessional. That was all I did and I don't know how im trying to make him look like a bad person. Oh yeah im pretty sure he is a nice guy if his friend says so but being nice=/ being professional.
There was nothing wrong with what you did. Uploading a screenshot and translating what the players say is a common thing that occurs frequently. However, yuna pointed out that this conversation occurred a long time ago, and that it was also a misunderstanding between EG and Revival.
Because of what you posted, people formed negative opinions about Revival. yuna was just trying to clarify things by explaining things in better context so that people would understand that while Revival made a mistake, it was all just a big misunderstanding.
I don't care what people think about Revival tbh... if you want to look nice to others, don't say shit like that when 10+ people are with you in the lobby, simple isnt it? Maybe we should trace the guy(or girl) who took the screenshot! he probably uploaded it on the internet with some malicious intent
By correcting mistake? what mistake? I haven't made any mistake. That girl was just furious about Revival getting bad image lol.
She stated that Revival said what he said because he thought EG purposely didn't tell him about WCG qualifiers, when in fact, EG just didn't say anything because they knew he was going to be at IEM during that time.
So while it wasn't necessarily a mistake on your part, a mistake did occur because of the lack of information behind that screenshot conversation.
So EG didn't tell anything to Revival knowing that he would be attending IEM. Revival thought EG management was being lazy therefore called his team trash.
I don't know what has changed really? EG didn't do anything wrong. Revival made a stupid mistake of calling his team trash in a lobby with 10+ people or it could be interpreted as "EG being incompetent"
The problem is that you're trying to link one minor chat "incident" (and it barely even qualifies for that) to Revival's attitude in general, and his leaving EG.
No I wasnt. My posts did not reflect my thoughts on Revival's general attitude. OK yep I did call him unprofessional because of that incident but it doesnt really mean he is unprofessional, arrogant jerk all the time does it? I think it's time to move on. I seriously do not understand dearyuna's intention of translating the rest of the chatlog other than implying "see! there was misunderstanding between eg and revival! " which doesn't change the fact that he called his team incompetent.
