Top 50 streamers in November 2013 - Page 3

On December 10 2013 12:14 Destiny wrote:


None of this can be substantiated without input from Twitch.TV, so take everything I say with a grain of salt.

When you're trying to determine how much money someone makes by running commercials on Twitch, the "viewer hour" (V*H) is the most important figure. Every time you run a commercial, you show 1 advertisement to every person watching your stream. That means that it's technically more valuable to stream to 100 people for 10 hours than it is to stream to 500 people for 1 hours. 500 people x 6 commercials x 1 hour (assuming no one runs adblock, you run 6 commericals per hour, and the ad-fill is 100%) = 3,000 commercials shown. Multiply that by your CPM and divide by 1k and you get your theoretical ad revenue. Say you have 3CPM, 3 x 3,000 commercials shown/1000 = $3. Say you show 100 people 6 ads/hour over 10 hours, that means you've shown 6,000 commercials, or twice as many, so your revenue would be doubled, to $6.

This is all theoretical because you could run more or less ads an hour, there will be people using adblock, and the ad-fill is never 100%.

So using that information, we can use my last month's revenue to make some guesses for other people's revenues.



Looking at the list of viewer hours, you can see that Dragon has less than a third of the V/H that I do. If you divide our viewer hours, you get a fraction, and you multiply that by my ad revenue and you can probably -estimate- that Dragon received about $767.11 last month. Grubby would have received a bit less than that, Catz about 3/4 of that, MaximusBlack a bit less than that, etc...etc...

Hopefully in seeing these numbers you can see why a lot of people are pushing the donation model a lot harder. The streaming revenue has severely declined over the past couple of years, so I can't imagine anyone making a living streaming these days without finding other ways to significantly supplement their income.

Let me know if you need any more insight!

On December 10 2013 12:23 BlackVelvet wrote:


I assume that's not even including your subscriber income? Pretty impressive what you've done in that regard, and the Destiny.gg website.

On December 10 2013 22:33 DinosaurPoop wrote:
PainUser 405 hours........

On December 10 2013 13:20 Drinksarlot wrote:
When you say CPM - that's clicks per minute? Does that mean you only paid if people click the ad, or is that additional income over someone just viewing the ad?

Overall I am surprised at how little money there is to be made - if the top streamer is only making $2500 a month - that means that a lot of people aren't making much money out of it. It really seems like now that Twitch has established itself as the market leader (probably running at a loss or little profits for the last few years), they are now reducing the quality of their service and how much they pay streamers - in order to maximize profits.

On December 10 2013 21:15 HappyZerGling wrote:
I am not teamless, I represent ESFXTV|FXO, fix plz thx
again in top50! :D