EPTtry practice harder if you guys want to beat koreans, no more whining!
WCS 2014: Partial Region Lock, GSL returns, and more - Pag…
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ChoDing
United States740 Posts
try practice harder if you guys want to beat koreans, no more whining! | ||
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goswser
United States3546 Posts
On November 21 2013 10:55 Pokebunny wrote: Except then it still fucking sucks for Americans (won't speak for Europeans because idk) too, because it's a lot harder for an American to be a full-time professional gamer and simply move their life somewhere to play. In Korea everything is centered in Seoul and there are a lot of team houses. Yeah, you don't know what you're talking about. A full offline ro32 is the best situation for WCS NA if flights aren't paid for by blizzard because this would region lock America much more than blizzard's stupid new system ever will. | ||
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geokilla
Canada8240 Posts
I'm a bit worried about Blizzard wanting to control WCS Partner and Global Event. Like Dreamhack or Red Bull Battlegrounds. What does the community think? Also not sure if partial region lock is good or bad... I guess time can only tell. At least it's better than no region lock. | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
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Fischbacher
Canada666 Posts
On November 21 2013 11:40 Zenbrez wrote: Am I correct understanding that now, since code A and code S happen chronologically, you can now qualify and win code S in the same season? Ignore the likeliness, just asking about the format. Yes. Which, IMO, is an awesome change. Personally I just hope OSL comes back. Having an OSL and a GSL run at the same time again would be awesome - for me, Rain's dual run in GSL 4 and the Auction OSL was the best story of 2012 and I'd like to see something like that emerge in 2014. | ||
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ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
Total GSL Prize Money (apprx) : 2012: $769,850 USD 2013: $472,800 USD + money from season finals which was mostly snagged by KRs 2014: $454,756 USD - now without the added season finals Someone plz explain to me why everyone is happy lol | ||
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antigravity
29 Posts
On November 21 2013 11:46 ffadicted wrote: Ok so lol Total GSL Prize Money (apprx) : 2012: $769,850 USD 2013: $472,800 USD + money from season finals which was mostly snagged by KRs 2014: $454,756 USD - now without the added season finals Someone plz explain to me why everyone is happy lol Plus, there are only 3 GSL seasons now - how is that any good... | ||
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LOGMATHR
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ZombieGrub
United States703 Posts
"Starcraft and Starcraft 2". Is this just an attempt to apologize to the maybe-would-still-be-there BW league, or did OGN specifically request to have rights to both? Or should we just not look into it at all? D: | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Doesn't say GSL can only run main WCS events. Doesn't say how many GSLs there will be. Also we miiiiight still get OSL, you never know. | ||
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Clawfinger
Canada221 Posts
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ssxsilver
United States4409 Posts
On November 21 2013 11:46 ffadicted wrote: Ok so lol Total GSL Prize Money (apprx) : 2012: $769,850 USD 2013: $472,800 USD + money from season finals which was mostly snagged by KRs 2014: $454,756 USD - now without the added season finals Someone plz explain to me why everyone is happy lol It's a better spread of funds. Bear in mind (for AM/EU) Code A is largely "gone." There's just one match now and coupled with no season finals, you have approximately the same amount of money across fewer events. This frees up a lot of available time slots that many organizers struggled with in 2013 as it was basically WCS event or irrelevant. Of course there's no guarantee that new leagues/events crop up to fill in the time voids, but it's still a big change from 2013 as the opportunity now exists. | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
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lystier
China877 Posts
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bourne117
United States837 Posts
On November 21 2013 08:28 Noobity wrote: I think you'll have a lot of them leaving for GSL, but this is a great compromise. I'm sure some of the pros aren't going to be happy, but from a spectator point of view I think a lot of us who were pro-region lock will be pleased. Yeah no they won't be. The only Koreans there that can compete in Code S are JD Taeja and Maybe Hero. That is the misconception everyone has about the Koreans coming over. It was never the best of the best. It was Code B and B teamers. Taeja and JD MIGHT go back but doubtful since they are still more likely to make more money in WCS NA. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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bourne117
United States837 Posts
On November 21 2013 11:53 lichter wrote: I am pretty sure it isn't explicitly stated that we'll only get 3 GSLs in 2014. It just says that GSL gets to keep its name within the WCS structure, and that GOM is the sole partner for the main WCS tournament in Korea. Doesn't say GSL can only run main WCS events. Doesn't say how many GSLs there will be. Also we miiiiight still get OSL, you never know. Yeah that is what I was thinking. I doubt GSL only does 3 tournaments all year and I bet OSL has tournaments also tbh. | ||
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lost_artz
United States366 Posts
On November 21 2013 11:36 goswser wrote: Yeah, you don't know what you're talking about. A full offline ro32 is the best situation for WCS NA if flights aren't paid for by blizzard because this would region lock America much more than blizzard's stupid new system ever will. Had to re-read that a few times to get it. I feel stupid now  Also I agree with goswser* . Effectively forcing a 100% commitment to a region through in-person tournaments is a much better option. If you allow some players to compete in NA/EU without being at the actual tournament (even for the Ro32) it almost makes region locks pointless. Consider if you will - Player A lives in Korea and qualifies for NA WCS BUT the Ro32 is online. If Player A doesn't advance beyond the Ro32 Player A never leaves Korea for WCS. However, if the Ro32 is offline (aka in-person) Player A is now committed to fly to the location (somewhere in the USA) and play in said tournament. *+ Show Spoiler + I find your name very confusing as I know it's actually gosu-user but I also say it as "goswser" in my head and I'm like wtf who's this guy every time :D | ||
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ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
On November 21 2013 11:53 lichter wrote: I am pretty sure it isn't explicitly stated that we'll only get 3 GSLs in 2014. It just says that GSL gets to keep its name within the WCS structure, and that GOM is the sole partner for the main WCS tournament in Korea. Doesn't say GSL can only run main WCS events. Doesn't say how many GSLs there will be. Also we miiiiight still get OSL, you never know. If that or OGN steps in, then esports is saved. Otherwise, I'm worried for our korean overlords. I think that 70k top prize pool is pathetic hahaha wtf everyone else gets nothing in comparison. What were you thinking GOM? | ||
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VArsovskiSC
Macedonia563 Posts
Saying that because of the following: If the WCS year 1/season 1 wasn't what it was, there wouldn't have been such a high quality of play in the regions overall.. I mean - sucks for the local players that each region got it's "faithful" group of Korean players, but that's much better place to start with the changes than it would've been to start with them while not having any Koreans per non-Korean region at all.. Very happy Blizz.. Not that you made the right moves, but justified the previous "mistakes" by doing it as well Now I just hope that the META gets fixed cause of the higher stakes and higher pricepool and the higher pride in all this as well.. ========================================================= And as for KR difference in winner-place prize-pool - pretty much think I get it.. Think it's a culture-based decision.. Especially when there's so much history and pride in it, KR wants to represent SC as a national sport (or at least a kind), and therefore the winner be a part of "history in the making" rather than a group of (say 32) very good players battle it out in a few-days tourney and give all the fans the games and having the prize-money divided in a "justified" manner.. In fact I think I am very pleased to know that there's still so much "on the line" in KR with the game.. It's a pretty (if not a veeeery) good sign overall.. :D | ||
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