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Visage814
Profile Joined April 2012
United States109 Posts
November 21 2013 03:13 GMT
#321
Why are so many people saying that WCS NA is going to still be all koreans? Doesn't it explicitly outline what country's players are allowed to qualify?
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 03:17:01
November 21 2013 03:16 GMT
#322
On November 21 2013 12:13 Visage814 wrote:
Why are so many people saying that WCS NA is going to still be all koreans? Doesn't it explicitly outline what country's players are allowed to qualify?

but Koreans players that are already qualified are still there (if they chose to say in the region)
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 21 2013 03:16 GMT
#323
On November 21 2013 12:16 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 12:13 Visage814 wrote:
Why are so many people saying that WCS NA is going to still be all koreans? Doesn't it explicitly outline what country's players are allowed to qualify?

but Koreans players that are already qualified are still there


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XtreMe_au
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia412 Posts
November 21 2013 03:17 GMT
#324
Fantastic changes. Now we just need 1-3 OSL's per year and we are SET ! Proleague, GSL, OSL, WCS EU/AM, big weekend tournaments, tier 2 (HSC) and tier 3 events to promote grassroots. This is pretty sweet ~
Visage814
Profile Joined April 2012
United States109 Posts
November 21 2013 03:19 GMT
#325
On November 21 2013 12:16 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 12:13 Visage814 wrote:
Why are so many people saying that WCS NA is going to still be all koreans? Doesn't it explicitly outline what country's players are allowed to qualify?

but Koreans players that are already qualified are still there (if they chose to say in the region)


...right, but 16 non-koreans are going to be in qualifiers each season. So unless all 16 of the qualifier-seeded players fall in challenger league, it won't be all koreans. right?
KiF1rE
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States964 Posts
November 21 2013 03:23 GMT
#326
On November 21 2013 12:19 Visage814 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 12:16 Yhamm wrote:
On November 21 2013 12:13 Visage814 wrote:
Why are so many people saying that WCS NA is going to still be all koreans? Doesn't it explicitly outline what country's players are allowed to qualify?

but Koreans players that are already qualified are still there (if they chose to say in the region)


...right, but 16 non-koreans are going to be in qualifiers each season. So unless all 16 of the qualifier-seeded players fall in challenger league, it won't be all koreans. right?


well they can still get the ladder wild card or what not... so could still have 3 koreans but they would actually be participating in our scene, since they would have to have atleast 200 wins on our ladder.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
November 21 2013 03:27 GMT
#327
On November 21 2013 12:19 Visage814 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 12:16 Yhamm wrote:
On November 21 2013 12:13 Visage814 wrote:
Why are so many people saying that WCS NA is going to still be all koreans? Doesn't it explicitly outline what country's players are allowed to qualify?

but Koreans players that are already qualified are still there (if they chose to say in the region)


...right, but 16 non-koreans are going to be in qualifiers each season. So unless all 16 of the qualifier-seeded players fall in challenger league, it won't be all koreans. right?

yes, non-korean will qualify for the challenger, but will they win to go in premier league an kick out the Koreans?
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Hiro45
Profile Joined April 2013
Canada13 Posts
November 21 2013 03:27 GMT
#328
Why are people so happy about GSL what is it ?
theMagus
Profile Joined February 2013
578 Posts
November 21 2013 03:28 GMT
#329
On November 21 2013 11:53 lichter wrote:
I am pretty sure it isn't explicitly stated that we'll only get 3 GSLs in 2014. It just says that GSL gets to keep its name within the WCS structure, and that GOM is the sole partner for the main WCS tournament in Korea.

Doesn't say GSL can only run main WCS events. Doesn't say how many GSLs there will be.

Also we miiiiight still get OSL, you never know.


if gomtv plans to run tournaments outside of wcs, i think they should name it differently as having non-wcs-related gsls would be confusing. also, premier and challenger tournaments in other regions only get 3 seasons in a year and gsl shouldn't be any different.
"Give away the stone. Let the oceans take and transmutate this cold and fated anchor. Let the waters kiss and transmutate these leaden grudges into gold. Let go."
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 21 2013 03:28 GMT
#330
We all knew this was coming. I wish they would just blow up the whole format together and reinforce the other tournaments to create a world circuit. Old habits die hard.
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
November 21 2013 03:33 GMT
#331
I never thought I'd say this, but I actually approve of what Blizzard is doing to WCS 2014.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
November 21 2013 03:34 GMT
#332
REALLY great changes. I absolutely love virtually ALL of these changes. Plus, $65,000 for winning Code S, holy shit! Super psyched for 2014 WCS!
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
FoShao
Profile Joined November 2012
United States256 Posts
November 21 2013 03:35 GMT
#333
holy shit that's a lot more money for WCS Korea! lot more incentive to play in Korea now though happy about that change. seemed really unfair to have equal prizepool across all regions in 2013
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
November 21 2013 03:35 GMT
#334

Going to have another vlog coming very soon, just found out more bad news for WCS AM that was snuck in there!





Congratulations to Europeans though.

Moderatorlickypiddy
XtreMe_au
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia412 Posts
November 21 2013 03:39 GMT
#335
On November 21 2013 12:35 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +

Going to have another vlog coming very soon, just found out more bad news for WCS AM that was snuck in there!

https://twitter.com/LorangerChris/status/403362801894174720


Show nested quote +

Congratulations to Europeans though.

https://twitter.com/LorangerChris/status/403362848807477248


... if it's about allocated spots to SEA/China/NA isn't the only place on Earth.... then I'm disappointed in Huk.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 21 2013 03:39 GMT
#336
GSL is back, that's all I needed to hear. Don't care about the rest.

So the first place prize for GSL will be even higher than before huh, 50 mil won vs 70 mil now.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
November 21 2013 03:40 GMT
#337
If HuK is going to complain about NA having slots for SEA/TW/CN I am going to lose it
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 03:41:45
November 21 2013 03:41 GMT
#338
his next vlog is up
Moderatorlickypiddy
Firestorm
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada341 Posts
November 21 2013 03:45 GMT
#339
On November 21 2013 12:04 lost_artz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 11:36 goswser wrote:
On November 21 2013 10:55 Pokebunny wrote:
On November 21 2013 10:14 Boucot wrote:
I really hope they do RO32 offline. Players have to commit in the regions they chose.

Except then it still fucking sucks for Americans (won't speak for Europeans because idk) too, because it's a lot harder for an American to be a full-time professional gamer and simply move their life somewhere to play. In Korea everything is centered in Seoul and there are a lot of team houses.

Yeah, you don't know what you're talking about. A full offline ro32 is the best situation for WCS NA if flights aren't paid for by blizzard because this would region lock America much more than blizzard's stupid new system ever will.


Had to re-read that a few times to get it. I feel stupid now

Also I agree with goswser* . Effectively forcing a 100% commitment to a region through in-person tournaments is a much better option. If you allow some players to compete in NA/EU without being at the actual tournament (even for the Ro32) it almost makes region locks pointless.

Consider if you will - Player A lives in Korea and qualifies for NA WCS BUT the Ro32 is online. If Player A doesn't advance beyond the Ro32 Player A never leaves Korea for WCS. However, if the Ro32 is offline (aka in-person) Player A is now committed to fly to the location (somewhere in the USA) and play in said tournament.

*+ Show Spoiler +
I find your name very confusing as I know it's actually gosu-user but I also say it as "goswser" in my head and I'm like wtf who's this guy every time :D


That would be prohibitively expensive, the only Koreans left would be the one on big teams.
"Revenge is sweet... Revenge is a dish best served cold... Revenge is... Ice Cream!"
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 03:47:39
November 21 2013 03:46 GMT
#340
https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/gallery/YSJP9MFK4FP51384955810106.jpg
http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/about/faq#qualifier-requirements
Okay so this is what Huk is talking about, it only applies to the countries listed meaning players from countries that are NOT listed have to get a green card to qualify for WCS NA

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