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Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
November 21 2013 01:52 GMT
#281
On November 21 2013 10:36 ShowTheLights wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 08:19 asdfOu wrote:
and still the wcs america & eu are the same prize pool as wcs korea...


no its not?


http://i.imgur.com/xVE8xoS.png

Outside of 1st place, WCS KR actually has a smaller prize pool.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
November 21 2013 01:52 GMT
#282
I'm very very happy about this... wonder if I'll come back and give it a shot.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
November 21 2013 01:55 GMT
#283
On November 21 2013 10:14 Boucot wrote:
I really hope they do RO32 offline. Players have to commit in the regions they chose.

Except then it still fucking sucks for Americans (won't speak for Europeans because idk) too, because it's a lot harder for an American to be a full-time professional gamer and simply move their life somewhere to play. In Korea everything is centered in Seoul and there are a lot of team houses.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
superpanda27
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
111 Posts
November 21 2013 01:57 GMT
#284
On November 21 2013 10:27 Bowzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 10:14 Sub40APM wrote:
On November 21 2013 10:00 Bowzar wrote:
So lets say a Korean wants to collect some easy money, how hard is it to get a greencard? I feel like Blizzard should help more with VISA issues. I want to see Violet again.

its pretty hard...

Thats what I thought. Didnt Riot fix the visas issues with their players. I remember reading about it.

They lobbied the US government to get LoL recognized as an official sports league or something like that. Probably had to spend a lot of time and money to get the US to okay League.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
November 21 2013 02:00 GMT
#285
Man Blizzard really put some serious thought and reflection into this and acknowledged community opinion. I think the changes are solid and I'm excited for next year!
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
November 21 2013 02:00 GMT
#286
On November 21 2013 10:52 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 10:36 ShowTheLights wrote:
On November 21 2013 08:19 asdfOu wrote:
and still the wcs america & eu are the same prize pool as wcs korea...


no its not?


http://i.imgur.com/xVE8xoS.png

Outside of 1st place, WCS KR actually has a smaller prize pool.

bro always find something to nitpick right? its GOMs decision to have a top heavy Prize distribution, mayb koreans like that


and by your logic outside of 2-32 place korea has almost triple the pricepool of WCS AM / Eu
yo
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 02:05:06
November 21 2013 02:04 GMT
#287
On November 21 2013 10:57 superpanda27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 10:27 Bowzar wrote:
On November 21 2013 10:14 Sub40APM wrote:
On November 21 2013 10:00 Bowzar wrote:
So lets say a Korean wants to collect some easy money, how hard is it to get a greencard? I feel like Blizzard should help more with VISA issues. I want to see Violet again.

its pretty hard...

Thats what I thought. Didnt Riot fix the visas issues with their players. I remember reading about it.

They lobbied the US government to get LoL recognized as an official sports league or something like that. Probably had to spend a lot of time and money to get the US to okay League.

The visa Riot got has a bunch of requirements, including that the players have a contract with the hosting league. WCS would not work under that visa, since the players not not employees of Blizzard.

Also, getting a work/residence visa is super hard.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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GulpyBlinkeyes
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1449 Posts
November 21 2013 02:05 GMT
#288
Wow, really impressed with the changes. I may have quibbles with certain details, but overall I think this is a huuuuuge leap forward from 2013.

I really hope more big 3rd party tournaments start moving back into the space in the schedule that they've created. Would be especially excited if OGN they restarted the OSL (and would cream my jeans if they also revived BW OSL).
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
November 21 2013 02:05 GMT
#289
On November 21 2013 11:00 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 10:52 Cheren wrote:
On November 21 2013 10:36 ShowTheLights wrote:
On November 21 2013 08:19 asdfOu wrote:
and still the wcs america & eu are the same prize pool as wcs korea...


no its not?


http://i.imgur.com/xVE8xoS.png

Outside of 1st place, WCS KR actually has a smaller prize pool.

bro always find something to nitpick right? its GOMs decision to have a top heavy Prize distribution, mayb koreans like that


and by your logic outside of 2-32 place korea has almost triple the pricepool of WCS AM / Eu


that doesn't contradict anything i said. and i doubt players like having less money when most of them don't make salaries.

Only at most 3 players will win GSL next year, the rest of the Koreans will not be making much...
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 21 2013 02:06 GMT
#290
On November 21 2013 11:05 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 11:00 Killmouse wrote:
On November 21 2013 10:52 Cheren wrote:
On November 21 2013 10:36 ShowTheLights wrote:
On November 21 2013 08:19 asdfOu wrote:
and still the wcs america & eu are the same prize pool as wcs korea...


no its not?


http://i.imgur.com/xVE8xoS.png

Outside of 1st place, WCS KR actually has a smaller prize pool.

bro always find something to nitpick right? its GOMs decision to have a top heavy Prize distribution, mayb koreans like that


and by your logic outside of 2-32 place korea has almost triple the pricepool of WCS AM / Eu


that doesn't contradict anything i said. and i doubt players like having less money when most of them don't make salaries.

Only at most 3 players will win GSL next year, the rest of the Koreans will not be making much...

They should talk to GOM about that, since they are the ones that likely set the prize money.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
theMagus
Profile Joined February 2013
578 Posts
November 21 2013 02:09 GMT
#291
On November 21 2013 10:46 pretensile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 10:36 ShowTheLights wrote:
Holy shit,

THANK YOU BLIZZARD FOR GIVING KOREA MORE CHANCES
The higher prize pool is GREAT


The total prize pool is only 4.2 million won ($4,000 USD) more than previous non-WCS GSLs. However, the champion makes 20 million won more ($19k) than previous Code S winners, and everyone outside of the top 16 makes less, especially if they are in Code A.

Also bear in mind that there are only 3 GSLs a year now, which means plenty of vacation time for Tastosis.


that's true, but this also gives ogn an equal opportunity to hold wcs-accredited osl tournaments. all the talk about whether or not osl will continue to be held are pretty much speculative at this point. the point is, blizzard has done their part in this, and it's up to ogn to make those tournaments happen. if ogn decides to let go of the osl altogether this year, blizzard can always increase the frequency of gsl next year. we will see
"Give away the stone. Let the oceans take and transmutate this cold and fated anchor. Let the waters kiss and transmutate these leaden grudges into gold. Let go."
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
November 21 2013 02:09 GMT
#292
On November 21 2013 11:06 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 11:05 Cheren wrote:
On November 21 2013 11:00 Killmouse wrote:
On November 21 2013 10:52 Cheren wrote:
On November 21 2013 10:36 ShowTheLights wrote:
On November 21 2013 08:19 asdfOu wrote:
and still the wcs america & eu are the same prize pool as wcs korea...


no its not?


http://i.imgur.com/xVE8xoS.png

Outside of 1st place, WCS KR actually has a smaller prize pool.

bro always find something to nitpick right? its GOMs decision to have a top heavy Prize distribution, mayb koreans like that


and by your logic outside of 2-32 place korea has almost triple the pricepool of WCS AM / Eu


that doesn't contradict anything i said. and i doubt players like having less money when most of them don't make salaries.

Only at most 3 players will win GSL next year, the rest of the Koreans will not be making much...

They should talk to GOM about that, since they are the ones that likely set the prize money.


Yeah pretty much all to take away from this is that it's bad for Koreans (especially if there end up being 0 OSLs) and pretty good for foreigners.
VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
November 21 2013 02:11 GMT
#293
Looks absolutely fantastic. I think Blizzard finally gets it more than Sundance.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 21 2013 02:13 GMT
#294
On November 21 2013 11:09 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 11:06 Plansix wrote:
On November 21 2013 11:05 Cheren wrote:
On November 21 2013 11:00 Killmouse wrote:
On November 21 2013 10:52 Cheren wrote:
On November 21 2013 10:36 ShowTheLights wrote:
On November 21 2013 08:19 asdfOu wrote:
and still the wcs america & eu are the same prize pool as wcs korea...


no its not?


http://i.imgur.com/xVE8xoS.png

Outside of 1st place, WCS KR actually has a smaller prize pool.

bro always find something to nitpick right? its GOMs decision to have a top heavy Prize distribution, mayb koreans like that


and by your logic outside of 2-32 place korea has almost triple the pricepool of WCS AM / Eu


that doesn't contradict anything i said. and i doubt players like having less money when most of them don't make salaries.

Only at most 3 players will win GSL next year, the rest of the Koreans will not be making much...

They should talk to GOM about that, since they are the ones that likely set the prize money.


Yeah pretty much all to take away from this is that it's bad for Koreans (especially if there end up being 0 OSLs) and pretty good for foreigners.

Well Blizzard can't make OSL cover SC2(or anyone else for that matter). There are more slots in code A, so there are more room for players to move up and stay in the league. I am not worried about the Korea scene, since they have been doing this for a while and can take care of themselves.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 02:20:17
November 21 2013 02:15 GMT
#295
On November 21 2013 11:06 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 11:05 Cheren wrote:
On November 21 2013 11:00 Killmouse wrote:
On November 21 2013 10:52 Cheren wrote:
On November 21 2013 10:36 ShowTheLights wrote:
On November 21 2013 08:19 asdfOu wrote:
and still the wcs america & eu are the same prize pool as wcs korea...


no its not?


http://i.imgur.com/xVE8xoS.png

Outside of 1st place, WCS KR actually has a smaller prize pool.

bro always find something to nitpick right? its GOMs decision to have a top heavy Prize distribution, mayb koreans like that


and by your logic outside of 2-32 place korea has almost triple the pricepool of WCS AM / Eu


that doesn't contradict anything i said. and i doubt players like having less money when most of them don't make salaries.

Only at most 3 players will win GSL next year, the rest of the Koreans will not be making much...

They should talk to GOM about that, since they are the ones that likely set the prize money.


I don't think there is much to talk about. The players/teams probably prefer a more balanced distribution. However, GOM wants a higher first prize to draw hype. It is what it is. And since KR players generally did better in the season finals, taking those away probably hurt the KR players more. But AM/EU players are earning less overall as well unless the other events increase in prize pool or frequency.

If you add up all the WCS prize pools for 2013 vs 2014. The 2014 pool is actually smaller due to removal of season finals ($150,000 per season finals vs about $122,000 more in KR/EU/AM)
lost_artz
Profile Joined January 2012
United States366 Posts
November 21 2013 02:19 GMT
#296
On November 21 2013 10:52 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 10:36 ShowTheLights wrote:
On November 21 2013 08:19 asdfOu wrote:
and still the wcs america & eu are the same prize pool as wcs korea...


no its not?


http://i.imgur.com/xVE8xoS.png

Outside of 1st place, WCS KR actually has a smaller prize pool.


And overall has a larger prize pool.

As stated by Blizz
GSL features a more top-heavy distribution to reflect Korea's regional preference, while America and Europe have a more even distribution of prize money between top and bottom.


KR vs. NA/EU Prize pools
- 1st place makes an extra 41K vs NA/EU - Win 2 seasons of NA/EU and you'd come up 16k short compared to 1 KR win
- 2nd earns $807 less in KR
- 3rd-4th earn $70 more in KR
- 5th-8th earn $1226 less than NA/EU
- 9th-16th earn $730 less than NA/EU
-17th-32nd earn $581 less than NA/EU
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 02:25:14
November 21 2013 02:22 GMT
#297
I love the AM/EU changes. KR still feels way too top heavy (strange request), but I don't know how much of a role Blizzard can have in that if OGN doesn't jump in.

Thumbs up on the changes, hope everything works for the best.
HelpMeGetBetter
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States764 Posts
November 21 2013 02:23 GMT
#298
Why isn't everything being reset, meaning players have to start from 0 and qualify for each region...??
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
November 21 2013 02:27 GMT
#299
this bo3 format, makes me bored.

I'm foreseeing more korean retirements, mostly from soul, azubu, prime, fou. there will be less tournaments in 2014 for those who can't afford be traveling around the world.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 21 2013 02:32 GMT
#300
OGN has rights to run both StarCraft and StarCraft II tournaments


COME ON.
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