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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
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Patate
Canada441 Posts
On October 11 2013 18:38 pretensile wrote: Regardless of your feeling about SC2's balance, design, and mechanics, there's no debating SC2 was and is infinitely more popular competitively and audience-wise in the foreign scene than SC1/BroodWar ever was. It's just that the tables were flipped in Korea with SC2 from the very start, for a variety of well-documented reasons, and the current climate has been especially pessimistic. Well, given that BW was released in 1998 in a world where streaming, nor even youtube existed.. given that it was released back when online gaming was still technologically and socially in an infant stage, then yes SC2 is more popular than foreign BW. However, that game was the biggest "competitive game".. Q3A was not as big, CS was the biggest competitor but wasn't as big, UT neither. Brood War dominated what was a small market, SC2 is getting irrelevant in what is a huge market. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On October 11 2013 18:42 Patate wrote: Well, given that BW was released in 1998 in a world where streaming, nor even youtube existed.. given that it was released back when online gaming was still technologically and socially in an infant stage, then yes SC2 is more popular than foreign BW. However, that game was the biggest "competitive game".. Q3A was not as big, CS was the biggest competitor but wasn't as big, UT neither. Brood War dominated what was a small market, SC2 is getting irrelevant in what is a huge market. SC2 will never be irrelevant so long as it's the premier RTS title. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On October 11 2013 18:42 Patate wrote: Well, given that BW was released in 1998 in a world where streaming, nor even youtube existed.. given that it was released back when online gaming was still technologically and socially in an infant stage, then yes SC2 is more popular than foreign BW. However, that game was the biggest "competitive game".. Q3A was not as big, CS was the biggest competitor but wasn't as big, UT neither. Brood War dominated what was a small market, SC2 is getting irrelevant in what is a huge market. Judging by your sig and your posts you need to leave the SC2 community to those who love it. Bye | ||
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mage36
415 Posts
On October 11 2013 14:15 TommyP wrote: Would be so sad if true. Biggest retirement in SC2 history (unless im forgetting something, yes im remembering idra lol) imo. He just meant so much to Terran since 2010 really. Even as a DRG fan i would be devastated. Biggest retirement? How about the Fruitdealer?  | ||
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
Yes its a shame for some to see MKP switch, but what do you expect? that people are going to play this game forever? if it wasnt LoL it'd be soccer, or military service, or trainspotting. Everyone just needs to relax - people move on from everything in life, even Starcraft 2. Theres still tournaments going on world wide and GSL is still the competitive pinnacle for the game. Enjoy it. On October 11 2013 18:42 Patate wrote: Well, given that BW was released in 1998 in a world where streaming, nor even youtube existed.. given that it was released back when online gaming was still technologically and socially in an infant stage, then yes SC2 is more popular than foreign BW. However, that game was the biggest "competitive game".. Q3A was not as big, CS was the biggest competitor but wasn't as big, UT neither. Brood War dominated what was a small market, SC2 is getting irrelevant in what is a huge market. Your attitude and signature is about as mature as North West. | ||
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herMan
Japan2057 Posts
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Creager
Germany1941 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On October 11 2013 18:47 mage36 wrote: Biggest retirement? How about the Fruitdealer?  PMKP is/was a far more relevant player than fruitdealer. On October 11 2013 18:48 Creager wrote: since I always liked watching his micro it's kinda sad to see him go, on the other hand, he never really showed any results during the last 2 years or so... last two years? more like last few months | ||
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TheSayo182
Italy243 Posts
On October 11 2013 18:24 Patate wrote: If there were still a decent amount of people watching SC2, there would be money. The only thing Blizzard can be blamed for is not listening when we were saying that SC2 had some serious flaws. I stayed around until HoTS's launch hoping that Blizzard would fix SC2 because I fucking love Starcraft. They did not, so now I play LoL and I lurk around TL's LoL section. Please read FXOBoss's latest text concerning his decision with FXO Korea. Simply put, teams go well when they get sponsor money. Sponsors sponsor the teams when there are viewers. Viewers come naturally when they enjoy the game, WCS/GSL/MLG/Dreamhack or not. If there is a demand for events and all, you can be sure that there will be money. Thing is, there is no demand anymore. Whenever I check the twitch viewers, Destiny playing SC2 grabs more than 50% of SC2 viewers, and Avilo has the highest number of viewers on the featured streamers. If I told you this in 2011, you would say there is no way at all (and so would I ), but there we are.... well, i agree with you, we were saying the same things more or less, but yes maybe its too late to save sc2 now, the game is boring and hard/frustrating to play and quite entertaining to watch if there is some big personalities (cough.. stephano...cough) or old bw stars (streaming numbers spoke for themselfs). both blizzard and organizations failed to bring the attention to the game the most depressing thing though is, for a MOBA HATER like me, there is no other competitive games with big community behind to switch at the moment... | ||
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1015Fan
United States86 Posts
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On October 11 2013 18:49 opterown wrote: MKP is/was a far more relevant player than fruitdealer. last two years? more like last few months early/mid 2012 afaik | ||
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mage36
415 Posts
On October 11 2013 18:49 opterown wrote: MKP is/was a far more relevant player than fruitdealer. last two years? more like last few months I know. Was just making a joke since he's a champion, the first at that, that left the game. haha! | ||
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roym899
Germany426 Posts
On October 11 2013 18:45 opterown wrote: SC2 will never be irrelevant so long as it's the premier RTS title. I'm also wondering why people think that SC2 gets irrelevant when the actual viewernumbers are declining very slowly. (which I feel like comes mostly with the design of WCS being watchable pretty much every day) | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
he was still relevant up until hots, placing in top4 ISQ2 and reaching RO16 for six seasons in a row with two RO8s in the last two seasons of 2012 | ||
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Tobblish
Sweden6404 Posts
5th player to retire in Oct alone, probably more with the WJS guys.. Need more fun events to push down this depressing shit! | ||
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Fuzzmosis
Canada752 Posts
Good news: I watch LoL. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5221 Posts
On October 11 2013 15:12 JBright wrote: First Fruitdealer, and now MKP. Who will be the iconic Protoss representative to switch over. There is only one iconic Korean Protoss... MC. On October 11 2013 18:47 liberate71 wrote: Holy shit people are so dramatic its ridiculous. Yes its a shame for some to see MKP switch, but what do you expect? that people are going to play this game forever? if it wasnt LoL it'd be soccer, or military service, or trainspotting. Everyone just needs to relax - people move on from everything in life, even Starcraft 2. The problem is that people aren't sure if SC2 is going to make it, and when icons leave the sport to play another sport, it puts people in more doubt. It isn't like MKP is too old to play, he is going to play a different sport. Imagine if basketball was this brand new fad that got really popular, then it dropped in popularity and popular iconic players left to play baseball instead. People would doubt whether basketball could survive. | ||
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pretensile
135 Posts
On October 11 2013 18:55 roym899 wrote: I'm also wondering why people think that SC2 gets irrelevant when the actual viewernumbers are declining very slowly. (which I feel like comes mostly with the design of WCS being watchable pretty much every day) Probably because of the spate of retirements and torrent of bad feeling/news surrounding Korea, which has traditionally been the pinnacle of any esport or game they really cared about. Also, there's no doubt a bitter taste in the mouth from Korea embracing League, which many foreigner StarCraft fans seem to revile. | ||
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