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On October 11 2013 18:18 TheSayo182 wrote:
its not (only) about MKP, is about the whole situation, people lefting, wcs system, big teams with money problems,etc..
imho blizzard has to focus in investing in some huge team league instead/with of single tournaments, this should/could give new earnings to the teams directly, instead of giving them to a few bunch of players
If there were still a decent amount of people watching SC2, there would be money.
The only thing Blizzard can be blamed for is not listening when we were saying that SC2 had some serious flaws. I stayed around until HoTS's launch hoping that Blizzard would fix SC2 because I fucking love Starcraft. They did not, so now I play LoL and I lurk around TL's LoL section.
Please read FXOBoss's latest text concerning his decision with FXO Korea. Simply put, teams go well when they get sponsor money. Sponsors sponsor the teams when there are viewers. Viewers come naturally when they enjoy the game, WCS/GSL/MLG/Dreamhack or not.
If there is a demand for events and all, you can be sure that there will be money. Thing is, there is no demand anymore. Whenever I check the twitch viewers, Destiny playing SC2 grabs more than 50% of SC2 viewers, and Avilo has the highest number of viewers on the featured streamers. If I told you this in 2011, you would say there is no way at all (and so would I ), but there we are....
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Players can switch games and be successful! Just look at all the previous BW progamers (who switched as SC2 was released) and how well they performed in SC2
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dam =/ no wonder MKP dropped off he never got knocked out of code s until season 2 wcs. man my favorite player is gone sad day for sc2 for sure
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Quite a big gamble, I would be surprised if he makes it.
So far no sc2 player switching to LoL has been really succesful as far as I know. Contrary to popular belief here competition in LoL is very high.The only former sc2 players I know of that had at least moderate success in LoL where Rikytan and Nbs (the Lithuanian).
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On October 11 2013 18:27 JonIrenicus wrote:
I feel like what disgusted him the most was the Broodlord infestor composition. Knowing that you probably wasted 1 years of your life knowing that there is a imbalance that Blizzard could have (at least) attempted to fix, and that Blizzard could do it again (and I'm 100% sure they will mess up purposely the balance before the upcoming of the expansion) would have made even me sick and willing to leave, for good.
I have a hard time believing the theory that Blizzard purposely fucks the game up until the 3rd expansion. Even if WoL was perfect, people would have still switched to HoTS.
Same thing with B.net 2.0, especially the 2010 version... The amount of people who left on the early stage of the game was unbelievable.
Now LoTV will be released and I, like many others, will not even bother with it. It's over..
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One of the few Koreans I really liked to watch 
Saddest news of the week i.m.o. even with the large amount of sad news presented to the SCII scene.
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Did someone realised that all those players who didn't get any achievements in last couple of months (and even more) are retiering, and those one who got some success are still in business? Bisu, Dragon, MKP, sC, Shuttle, which of them did rly succeded in HotS?
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On October 11 2013 18:29 Redox wrote:
Quite a big gamble, I would be surprised if he makes it.
So far no sc2 player switching to LoL has been really succesful as far as I know. Contrary to popular belief here competition in LoL is very high.The only former sc2 players I know of that had at least moderate success in LoL where Rikytan and Nbs (the Lithuanian).
There are two players who are doing quite well.
Grape and Watch are both former SC players and doing quite well in LoL.
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Why doesn't some dota2 Team pick up MKP? I mean, there are already several Korean SC2 Pro-Teams with Dota2 Teams (ST, MVP, FXO) and it could be a great popularity-booster for dota2. That's the kind of advertising that will really bring new Players and Viewers to your game and that's exactly where RIOT does everything right - I bet they got MKP an offer or sth. or maybe even the allure of the tons of Prize-money for a moderately hard to play game was enough.
Probably because he's under contract with PRIME and they have two LoL teams and zero Dota 2 teams.
I doubt Riot would worry about making 'offers' to SC2 players who wanted to come over and test the waters.
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apparently hes already high diamond and hes only played for 3 months or something although the difference between diamond and professional in league i still noticeable. I still haven't seen a notable starcraft player successfully transition to league yet though so I won't expect him to accomplish much.
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NOOOOOOOO whyyyyy! ATLEAST go to dota 2 instead of LoL!
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Another piece of the SC2 scene dies. :-\
On October 11 2013 18:27 NeThZOR wrote:
Players can switch games and be successful! Just look at all the previous BW progamers (who switched as SC2 was released) and how well they performed in SC2
Going from BW to SC2 is arguably almost playing the same game with better graphics and easier UI.
Going from SC2 to LoL is a totally different ball game.
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On October 11 2013 17:29 fant0m wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2013 16:56 sqrt wrote:On October 11 2013 16:09 xtyxtbx wrote:
At least switch to Dota 2. This is embarrasing to the starcraft 2 community. At least I'd still hold lots of respect for going into a competitive game like dota 2. Don't get me wrong i respect marineking for his amazing games and effort he put into starcraft but this is just.... no. But LoL is more competitive - more fans, more money, higher quality of tournaments. And let's not pretend DotA is not casual - it was that map everyone played because they sucked at Warcraft. As for the news - expected. There are not a lot more money than the SC2 scene and there is little incentive for new sponsors to chime in, moving to the biggest eSport game is the smart move. Doesn't mean I won't miss him. LoL worlds barely got more viewers than the TI3 finals. (LoL was at 1.4m, I don't remember exactly what the final number for TI3 was including all sources such as Highwind, but it was over 1m). Considering the huge difference in player base, I think that pretty clearly shows that a lot of people think Dota is the better game to *watch* competitively. And if I'm a professional gamer, that's what I care about. Otherwise you'd be playing Candy Crush on Facebook if you decided based on the number of casual players.
bro.... at least do some fact checking. 1.4m was the concurrent viewer from last year. Riot estimated conservatively 6 million concurrent viewer during this year's final.
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On October 11 2013 18:35 Nekovivie wrote:Another piece of the SC2 scene dies. :-\ Show nested quote +On October 11 2013 18:27 NeThZOR wrote:
Players can switch games and be successful! Just look at all the previous BW progamers (who switched as SC2 was released) and how well they performed in SC2 Going from BW to SC2 is arguably almost playing the same game with better graphics and easier UI.Going from SC2 to LoL is a totally different ball game.
I don't even know what to say.
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On October 11 2013 18:29 Patate wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2013 18:27 JonIrenicus wrote:
I feel like what disgusted him the most was the Broodlord infestor composition. Knowing that you probably wasted 1 years of your life knowing that there is a imbalance that Blizzard could have (at least) attempted to fix, and that Blizzard could do it again (and I'm 100% sure they will mess up purposely the balance before the upcoming of the expansion) would have made even me sick and willing to leave, for good. I have a hard time believing the theory that Blizzard purposely fucks the game up until the 3rd expansion. Even if WoL was perfect, people would have still switched to HoTS. Same thing with B.net 2.0, especially the 2010 version... The amount of people who left on the early stage of the game was unbelievable. Now LoTV will be released and I, like many others, will not even bother with it. It's over..
Regardless of your feeling about SC2's balance, design, and mechanics, there's no debating SC2 was and is infinitely more popular competitively and audience-wise in the foreign scene than SC1/BroodWar ever was.
It's just that the tables were flipped in Korea with SC2 from the very start, for a variety of well-documented reasons, and the current climate has been especially pessimistic.
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Fucks given: Zero.
Happy dooming and glooming everyone.
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On October 11 2013 18:38 Patate wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2013 18:35 Nekovivie wrote:Another piece of the SC2 scene dies. :-\ On October 11 2013 18:27 NeThZOR wrote:
Players can switch games and be successful! Just look at all the previous BW progamers (who switched as SC2 was released) and how well they performed in SC2 Going from BW to SC2 is arguably almost playing the same game with better graphics and easier UI.Going from SC2 to LoL is a totally different ball game. I don't even know what to say.
1v1 RTS to 1v1 RTS with the same mechanics. No need to pedantic.
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Sad to see such a personality go but his style of Sc2 always had a rather low ceiling and as players got better and better he didn't. A game where he can just micro all day without worrying about macro or multitasking seems like a better fit for him to be honest.
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