EPTthey havent engaged in any of the unscrupulous shenanigans that riot have.
riot == activision:blizzard != valve
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MrTortoise
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they havent engaged in any of the unscrupulous shenanigans that riot have. riot == activision:blizzard != valve | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 10 2013 02:39 WoodenSky wrote: Could you please quote the last very competitive (or still relatively young) sportsman you can think of who retired? Could you please give me list of sportsmen that have military service to do? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 10 2013 02:39 WoodenSky wrote: Could you please quote the last very competitive (or still relatively young) sportsman you can think of who retired? Justine Henin http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/news/story?id=3396415 Retired at age 25, considered number 1 tennis player in the world. Came back in 2010 and retired again in 2011. We could find tons more like that this, where people drop out at the top of their game. | ||
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WoodenSky
France66 Posts
On September 10 2013 02:42 lolfail9001 wrote: Could you please give me list of sportsmen that have military service to do? You very well know that they could have waited a few more years to do their MS, it's a pointless argument and more of an 'excuse' to leave than anything else. | ||
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HerrHorst
Germany140 Posts
On September 10 2013 02:39 WoodenSky wrote: Could you please quote the last very competitive (or still relatively young) sportsman you can think of who retired? This names will hardly mean anything to you but they are from my favorite club: Benjamin Lauth, Martin Max, Michael Hofmann Also I am sure you know some people who quit their job because they wanted to do something different. But if you want to believe SC2 is dying I am not the one who will waste his time to change your mind. | ||
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WoodenSky
France66 Posts
On September 10 2013 02:44 Plansix wrote: Justine Henin http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/news/story?id=3396415 Retired at age 25, considered number 1 tennis player in the world. Came back in 2010 and retired again in 2011. We could find tons more like that this, where people drop out at the top of their game. That's a very tennistic niche and is called leaving while being on top. Look at Bartoli even more recently. Or at what Federer should have done after last year's Wimbledon for that matter :'( | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 10 2013 02:45 WoodenSky wrote: You very well know that they could have waited a few more years to do their MS, it's a pointless argument and more of an 'excuse' to leave than anything else. Like BoxeR going to military back in the days of SC:BW, if Wiki info is correct and i understood it right, he could still fullfill his conscription only year after. | ||
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Thrill
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 10 2013 02:45 WoodenSky wrote: You very well know that they could have waited a few more years to do their MS, it's a pointless argument and more of an 'excuse' to leave than anything else. It is sort of tough to move on with your life or get a full time career with 2-3 years of service hanging over your head. I don't know what is required during that time, but I am sure it puts a damper on their lives. Also he is at the age where all of this "non" progamer friends are likely settling down or starting up lives. I am sure that progaming house starts to look a little small when your friends start getting married. | ||
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ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
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HerrHorst
Germany140 Posts
On September 10 2013 02:49 ffadicted wrote: Michael Jordan retired at the prime of his career, and a second time while he was still in tip top shape. Sure he made a comeback (two actually, but I personally choose to forget his wizard days lol), and he was giving up millions and millions. Michael Schuhmacher is another one,he also made a comeback afterwards without much succes I might add. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 10 2013 02:49 ffadicted wrote: Michael Jordan retired at the prime of his career, and a second time while he was still in tip top shape. Sure he made a comeback (two actually, but I personally choose to forget his wizard days lol), but so could Bisu... and he was giving up millions and millions, a lot more than Bisu lol That mostly had to do with the death of his father, but it is a good point that people retire for all sorts of reasons. | ||
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WoodenSky
France66 Posts
They still came back because they loved their respective sport so much they couldn't live without it (I'm willing to bet noone is coming back on SC2), their afterward performances proved they were right to retire in the first place. "Also he is at the age where all of this "non" progamer friends are likely settling down or starting up lives. I am sure that progaming house starts to look a little small when your friends start getting married." Now that's a very good point :p | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 10 2013 02:52 Plansix wrote: That mostly had to do with the death of his father, but it is a good point that people retire for all sorts of reasons. So, i guess common sense prevails, we all feel bad for him retiring, and wish him luck in whatever he will choose to pursue in life + Show Spoiler + and Bisu, stream BW sometimes, goddamn | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 10 2013 02:52 WoodenSky wrote: Both Jordan and Schumacher left when they felt they could only decline from that point on. They still came back because they loved their respective sport so much they couldn't live without it (I'm willing to bet noone is coming back on SC2), their afterward performances proved they were right to retire in the first place. "Also he is at the age where all of this "non" progamer friends are likely settling down or starting up lives. I am sure that progaming house starts to look a little small when your friends start getting married." Now that's a very good point :p Michael Jordan retires specifically because of the murder of his father and loss of desire to play the game due to that. It has nothing to do with leaving while on the top. The man was crushed because he lost his father and couldn't play basket ball because of it. And when he came back, he did very well. | ||
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HerrHorst
Germany140 Posts
On September 10 2013 02:52 WoodenSky wrote: Both Jordan and Schumacher left when they felt they could only decline from that point on. They still came back because they loved their respective sport so much they couldn't live without it (I'm willing to bet noone is coming back on SC2), their afterward performances proved they were right to retire in the first place. Actually Schuhmacher stated on german television he just was getting tired of Formula One and wanted to spent time with his family. And his comeback mostly failed because of his flawed car. | ||
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WoodenSky
France66 Posts
On September 10 2013 02:56 Plansix wrote: Michael Jordan retires specifically because of the murder of his father and loss of desire to play the game due to that. It has nothing to do with leaving while on the top. The man was crushed because he lost his father and couldn't play basket ball because of it. And when he came back, he did very well. I meant the second comeback for Jordan which, while not that bad and chiefly destroyed by injuries, wasn't up his prime's level. Yet again Jordan's first retirement is indeed very peculiar and he was a bad example. Henin and Schumacher make my case better. "Actually Schuhmacher stated on german television he just was getting tired of Formula One and wanted to spent time with his family. And his comeback mostly failed because of his flawed car." He spent two years with his family before... coming back to his beloved career. And the car wasn't that flawed, Rosberg was doing much better than him. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
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juvenal
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 10 2013 03:04 juvenal wrote: Guys, your overly positive or just a bit fanboy's look at SC2 playing it's role in recent retirements is swept away by Jangbi's direct words: not interested in sc2. You can read it between the lines in Bisu's case too. Sheer frustration at the game. Ok, he didn't say it directly, but you've got to be blind just to not see it. Or you can just turn the logic off and happily believe sc2 is flourishing. I for one, can't read his brain, but i see him enjoying BW, so if he liked it, it's his choice. But trust me, you can get frustrated with any game. Yes, BW too. And no, SC2 is not doing as fine as LoL, it does fine enough for a game like SC2. | ||
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