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A Guide to Following the Chinese StarCraft Scene

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larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 04:42:28
September 02 2013 21:54 GMT
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A Guide to Following the Chinese StarCraft Scene [Keep Updated]


Recent Tournaments
WCS China Qualifiers: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=427825&currentpage=5#82

TL;DR

The most regular tournaments in China are NSL, SWL, and WCG. There are some other big 2-day events happen across the year.

Easiest way to “follow” the Chinese scene is to watch this 24-hours Chinese stream (both live and restream). Most of the premier content is on this stream alone. http://www.fengyunzhibo.com/tv/NEOtvSC2.htm

For English casting of the major Chinese events, watch this stream and VODs. http://www.twitch.tv/cheeseheadlogic/profile/pastBroadcasts

Intro


As inspired by Reddit’s recent attention to the Chinese StarCraft scene, I decided to write a short guide on how to follow the Chinese scene to the non-Chinese audience. Following the Chinese scene can be difficult since there is little information in the English-speaking websites. Even though TL actually has a decent amount of threads, event calendar, and wiki entries about the Chinese tournaments, it is still spread-out and may be difficult to know they are even there. So this guide may act like an introduction to “what is happening, what to watch, and where to watch” in the Chinese StarCraft scene. I will try to keep this thread updated in my spare time. Also, I know there are many Chinese and people who know Chinese language on TL, if you know some Chinese SC2 events that are not listed here, you can post them in this thread, and I will add them to this top post.

If you want to know more about the history of Chinese SC2 scene, here is a detailed liquipedia entry: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Chinese_SC2_scene

Tournaments


The Premier Chinese Tournaments


NEO Star League (NSL)
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NSL is like the Chinese GSL (started from Ro32). It is held a few times a year.

NSL 2013 [Ongoing]
  • Liquipedia: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/NEO_Star_League_2013

  • English Live Stream & VODs: http://www.twitch.tv/cheeseheadlogic/profile/pastBroadcasts

  • Chinese Live Stream: http://www.fengyunzhibo.com/tv/NEOtvSC2.htm

  • Chinese VODs (very organized): http://matchday.cc/match.php?id=289&rt=2
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  • Official website (in Chinese): http://sc2.neotv.cn/nsl2013/ or http://sc2.neotv.cn/content-31-2280-1.html


StarsWar League (SWL)
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SWL is a shorter tournament than NSL, but it has more prize money and it invites many top Korean players. And it is sponsored by GIGABYTE and Intel.

StarsWar League Season 3 [Ongoing]
  • Liquipedia: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/StarsWar_League/Season_3

  • EnglishLive Stream & VODs: http://www.twitch.tv/cheeseheadlogic/profile/pastBroadcasts

  • Chinese Live Stream: http://www.fengyunzhibo.com/tv/NEOtvSC2.htm

  • Chinese VODs (very organized): http://matchday.cc/match.php?id=291&rt=2

  • Official website (in Chinese): http://swl.starswar.org/


WCG China
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WCG has been quite a China-centric event, even though its origin is Korea. And it is still the biggest esports event in China.

WCG China 2013 [not ongoing]

  • Liquipedia: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2013/Qualifiers/China

  • Chinese stream: http://www.fengyunzhibo.com/tv/NEOtvSC2.htm

  • Chinese VODs: http://matchday.cc/match.php?id=259&rt=2

  • Official website (in Chinese): http://wcg.neotv.cn/


Other Tournaments


The National Online Tournament (SOT)
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An online tournament open for fans to play with pros.

The National Online Tournament “Passion 2v2” [Ongoing]
  • Chinese stream: http://www.fengyunzhibo.com/tv/NEOtvSC2.htm

  • Chinese VODs (Click SOT in the left sidebar): http://v.neotv.cn/sc2

  • Official website (in Chinese): http://sot.neotv.cn/

    Matchday.cc Gaming Series Clan’s League (MCL)


    Season 8 [Ongoing]

  • Chinese VODs:

    http://matchday.cc/match.php?id=286&rt=2

  • Official Website (in Chinese):

    http://sc2.marstv.com/


Ifeng Electronic Sports Cup (a weekly online tournament)


  • Liquipedia: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Ifeng_Electronic_Sports_Cup


Some other Chinese tournaments that are not going:

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Kung Fu Cup
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Kung_Fu_Cup

CPL
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/CPL_Championship_2013

NVIDIA Gaming Festival
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/NVIDIA_Gaming_Festival_2013

Hong Kong Esports Tournament
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Hong_Kong_Esports_Tournament

National Electronic Sports Tournament (NEST)
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/National_Electronic_Sports_Tournament

National College Cup

Official website (in Chinese):
http://sc2.163.com/scc/

Chinese VODs:
http://sc2.163.com/scc/videos/46006



StarCraft Shows:

    Friday Learn to Play Starcraft (in Chinese)

  • Official website: http://sc2.163.com/minisite/friday/

  • VODs: http://sc2.163.com/minisite/friday/


    Tuesday Let’s Play Starcraft (in Chinese)

  • Official website: http://sc2.163.com/minisite/tuesday/

  • VODs: http://sc2.163.com/minisite/tuesday/#newsVideo


Event Calendar (in Chinese)


Unfortunately the even calendars are all in Chinese. But you can use browser to search for keywords such as NSL or SWL. The time zone is call CST – China Standard Time.

http://live.neotv.cn/LiveV2Channel.aspx/Programs

http://sc2.163.com/calendar/

VOD Archives of Chinese Tournament (in Chinese)


NeoTV:
http://i.youku.com/u/UMzY0MDQ3Mjky/videos

MarsTV:
http://i.youku.com/u/UMzk3MjYyMjQ0/videos

星际少帮主 with Learn to Play Starcraft Friday:
http://i.youku.com/u/UMzE5NzMzNzM2/videos

Notable Players and Teams

Players:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Jim
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/MacSed
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/XiGua
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/XluoS
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/XY
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/LoveCD
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/LoveTt
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Top_(Chinese_player)
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Comm
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Infi
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/TooDming

Teams:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Invictus_Gaming
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Long_Chen
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Zenith_of_Origin
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/AgFox
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Vici_Gaming
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Elite

Well, Boring, right?


Why should I care about some random Asians? So let's introduce some Chinese female players and casters (service, service). The girls are quite a feature of the Chinese scene, as many organizers will have female casters to cast with the male casters and female players to play with fans to boost popularity. And you know it will work. The following are some of the notable Chinese female players and casters

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/MisS (韩懿莹):
Han "MisS" Yi Ying is a Chinese former WarCraft III player and shoutcaster, who became a professional StarCraft II player for team StarTale on February 13, 2012.

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Xueyan (雪研):
As you may remember, she casted 2012 WCS China and Asia with Artosis and Rob Simpson.
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Xiaoyu (小雨):
She works for NeoTV, which is the organizer of the above three premier events. So if you are going to watch some of the NSL and SWL, you may probably see her casting.
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News


September 2013

Red Bull ECL2013 announced with a prize pool of ~$16000.:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=427825#11

National Electronic Sports Tournament 2013 offline finals in November with a prize pool of ~$10000.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=427825#14

WCG China regionals: Shanghai 9/7 - 9/8, Chengdu 9/14 - 9/15, Guangzhou 9/21 - 9/22. WCG China finals starts on October 11th.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=427825#14

WCG China 2013 Prize Pool for SC2 announced. It's about $7350 or ¥45,000.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=427825&currentpage=3#41

NetEase reveals the 5-million-dollar esports plan
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=427990#1

Vivi Gaming's player Comm announces plan to retire in the end of this year
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=427825&currentpage=4#71

Blizzard/NetEase Sponsors WCG China
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=428495#1
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10301 Posts
September 02 2013 22:35 GMT
#2
Holy crap this guide is amazing! excellent thread larse!
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
KnadRa
Profile Joined July 2012
United States56 Posts
September 02 2013 22:51 GMT
#3
they should make WCS china
The diamond league destroyer
prabhbhambra13
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom424 Posts
September 02 2013 23:05 GMT
#4
This guide is great. 2014 should definitely add China as a WCS region
SECO SECO SECO
tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
September 02 2013 23:29 GMT
#5
That's pretty awesome. Thanks man! Great resources for those of us who are interested.
No church in the wild --- @tzhang0126
Like a Boss
Profile Joined January 2011
502 Posts
September 02 2013 23:41 GMT
#6
Are we able to connect to the chinese server now?
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-02 23:45:54
September 02 2013 23:44 GMT
#7
Yeah WCS China next season! Also go Jim!

also. isn't MisS from StarTale too?
AKMU / IU
frSlick
Profile Joined June 2013
4 Posts
September 02 2013 23:45 GMT
#8
LAGUZ -.-
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
September 03 2013 01:05 GMT
#9
nice!
yo
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
September 03 2013 01:20 GMT
#10
The Chinese scene has always seemed so under appreciated in SC2, it's pretty sad to be honest.

Anyways, thanks for the thread. I'll make sure to watch at least a few of these events whenever I can.
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 01:41:24
September 03 2013 01:40 GMT
#11
News

Red Bull ECL2013 announced

Red Bull ECL2013 is announced to be held in Beijing, between Sep 19 to Sep 21.

Red Bull ECL2013 is a Dota 2 + SC2 tournament.

Prize pool for SC2 alone is $16,000 or near 100,000 yuan.

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Official website: http://www.cespc.com/

Source: http://sc2.uuu9.com/2013/201309/452319.shtml
freeamount
Profile Joined April 2010
China202 Posts
September 03 2013 02:56 GMT
#12
The following tournaments could be added to OP.

(Wiki)National Electronic Sports Tournament (NEST mentioned in OP)
(Wiki)Ifeng Electronic Sports Cup (a weekly online tournament)
Kommatiazo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States579 Posts
September 03 2013 03:08 GMT
#13
This is flippin' awesome. Bookmarked immediately.
"You must enemy don't know, and very good micro" - Bosstoss #Wet4Ret
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2716 Posts
September 03 2013 03:08 GMT
#14
ifeng Electronic Sports Cup (rough translation) has been running for 4 weeks now with a prize pool of ~$375, sponsored by the Hong Kong tv channel Phoenix, broadcasted every Friday, Saturday at this site I believe: http://games.ifeng.com/special/djbs/live.shtml

The online portion of National Electronic Sports Tournament 2013 just ended, with a prize pool of ~$4000 and 16 players qualifying for the offline finals in November with a prize pool of ~$10000.

Technically the WCG China regionals are going on right now, with 3 regions left: Shanghai 9/7 - 9/8, Chengdu 9/14 - 9/15, Guangzhou 9/21 - 9/22. WCG China finals starts on October 11th.
very illegal and very uncool
cchily13
Profile Joined May 2012
70 Posts
September 03 2013 03:10 GMT
#15
This is amazing holy shit
ROOT is reborn!!
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 03:17:46
September 03 2013 03:15 GMT
#16
Hi, freeamount and argonautdice, thank you so much for your contribution. I already add your information to the top post (in the news section). When after maybe one week, when the thread sinks, I will put the news section to the top of the post.
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
September 03 2013 03:15 GMT
#17
whoa thx!


btw that Gigabyte StarsWar League Season 3 [Ongoing] tournament looks ridiculous...

Maru, Jim, Parting, and Hero?!

i wanna see all those games...
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 03 2013 03:20 GMT
#18
Thanks for this thread! I wish I could help out somehow but my SC2 sched is already packed
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
thirtyapm
Profile Joined January 2012
521 Posts
September 03 2013 03:36 GMT
#19
this is great, will follow, thnx!!
SystemXN
Profile Joined December 2011
China105 Posts
September 03 2013 03:49 GMT
#20
Great job! This is the most detailed guide of Chinese scene I have ever seen, thanks for your work!
MarineKing | Bomber | MVP | Gumiho
freeamount
Profile Joined April 2010
China202 Posts
September 03 2013 03:51 GMT
#21
On September 03 2013 12:20 lichter wrote:
Thanks for this thread! I wish I could help out somehow but my SC2 sched is already packed

Dude, I think you are also Chinese, right? Just be a little curious : )
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 05:03:18
September 03 2013 05:02 GMT
#22
NSL 2013 Ro 16 starts at 11:00 GMT (+00:00) in about 6 hours.

Jim vs AK
Doudou vs ERC

English Live Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/cheeseheadlogic/

Chinese Live Stream: http://www.fengyunzhibo.com/tv/NEOtvSC2.htm
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 05:27:50
September 03 2013 05:25 GMT
#23
On September 03 2013 12:51 freeamount wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 12:20 lichter wrote:
Thanks for this thread! I wish I could help out somehow but my SC2 sched is already packed

Dude, I think you are also Chinese, right? Just be a little curious : )


I'm Chinese but don't live in China. I am there about twice a year (more if you count TW/HK) for business though. My Chinese is decent enough to look at info but not good enough for translations. Plus I learned traditional and don't know simplified x_x

On September 03 2013 14:02 larse wrote:
NSL 2013 Ro 16 starts at 11:00 GMT (+00:00) in about 6 hours.

Jim vs AK
Doudou vs ERC

English Live Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/cheeseheadlogic/

Chinese Live Stream: http://www.fengyunzhibo.com/tv/NEOtvSC2.htm


It would help a lot if these could be added to the calendar!

Also: I am already too busy with LR threads and stuff so I can't manage LR threads for this tournament, but I am willing to premake LR OPs for them. If there is enough interest and someone is willing to consistently make the LR threads, I can make per group LR OPs. Otherwise I will make per Round LR OPs with undetailed results and handle them myself.
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
September 03 2013 05:34 GMT
#24
On September 03 2013 14:25 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 12:51 freeamount wrote:
On September 03 2013 12:20 lichter wrote:
Thanks for this thread! I wish I could help out somehow but my SC2 sched is already packed

Dude, I think you are also Chinese, right? Just be a little curious : )


I'm Chinese but don't live in China. I am there about twice a year (more if you count TW/HK) for business though. My Chinese is decent enough to look at info but not good enough for translations. Plus I learned traditional and don't know simplified x_x

Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 14:02 larse wrote:
NSL 2013 Ro 16 starts at 11:00 GMT (+00:00) in about 6 hours.

Jim vs AK
Doudou vs ERC

English Live Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/cheeseheadlogic/

Chinese Live Stream: http://www.fengyunzhibo.com/tv/NEOtvSC2.htm


It would help a lot if these could be added to the calendar!

Also: I am already too busy with LR threads and stuff so I can't manage LR threads for this tournament, but I am willing to premake LR OPs for them. If there is enough interest and someone is willing to consistently make the LR threads, I can make per group LR OPs. Otherwise I will make per Round LR OPs with undetailed results and handle them myself.


I don't know how to make them and I doubt my consistence on making them every time.

Some one has actually made a page, it looks like it's for the whole tournament. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=425395

Also, digmouse has done NSL last year, but the interest is too low, like 1-2 replies. So he didn't do it this year.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329240
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 03 2013 05:39 GMT
#25
For NSL: I can make the LR thread for each group or round, and then just update late. It's better than not having a thread. Even if it only gets a few replies at least more people will be aware of it. I guess I'm doing this.

For SWL: Does it appear in the calendar? That's a big issue. It also conflicts with GSL sometimes. digmouse recently made a thread for one of the days, but I think 2 threads per group is too much. Maybe 1 thread with both days is better. I will ask him about it.
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
BlackPanther
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States872 Posts
September 03 2013 05:42 GMT
#26
China, the last bastion of hope for SC2.
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 05:44:41
September 03 2013 05:44 GMT
#27
On September 03 2013 14:39 lichter wrote:
For NSL: I can make the LR thread for each group or round, and then just update late. It's better than not having a thread. Even if it only gets a few replies at least more people will be aware of it. I guess I'm doing this.

For SWL: Does it appear in the calendar? That's a big issue. It also conflicts with GSL sometimes. digmouse recently made a thread for one of the days, but I think 2 threads per group is too much. Maybe 1 thread with both days is better. I will ask him about it.


Why not a mega thread of the whole tournament? I mean one for NSL only and one for SWL.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 05:46:25
September 03 2013 05:45 GMT
#28
Great job, amazing guide.

Hopefully the Chinese can get a WCS (in some way) next year.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 03 2013 05:53 GMT
#29
On September 03 2013 14:44 larse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 14:39 lichter wrote:
For NSL: I can make the LR thread for each group or round, and then just update late. It's better than not having a thread. Even if it only gets a few replies at least more people will be aware of it. I guess I'm doing this.

For SWL: Does it appear in the calendar? That's a big issue. It also conflicts with GSL sometimes. digmouse recently made a thread for one of the days, but I think 2 threads per group is too much. Maybe 1 thread with both days is better. I will ask him about it.


Why not a mega thread of the whole tournament? I mean one for NSL only and one for SWL.


One megathread (like RSL) makes looking at results very complicated. Need to spoiler a lot of stuff. It will also be hard to explain who's playing today, though I guess that can be edited whenever there is a set of new players. It's also a burden for one person to do everything. It is a solution though, since it will gather more posts and hopefully make people more likely to check it out. Since there isn't big interest in it yet, maybe I can do that. What do you think?
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
September 03 2013 06:02 GMT
#30
On September 03 2013 14:53 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 14:44 larse wrote:
On September 03 2013 14:39 lichter wrote:
For NSL: I can make the LR thread for each group or round, and then just update late. It's better than not having a thread. Even if it only gets a few replies at least more people will be aware of it. I guess I'm doing this.

For SWL: Does it appear in the calendar? That's a big issue. It also conflicts with GSL sometimes. digmouse recently made a thread for one of the days, but I think 2 threads per group is too much. Maybe 1 thread with both days is better. I will ask him about it.


Why not a mega thread of the whole tournament? I mean one for NSL only and one for SWL.


One megathread (like RSL) makes looking at results very complicated. Need to spoiler a lot of stuff. It will also be hard to explain who's playing today, though I guess that can be edited whenever there is a set of new players. It's also a burden for one person to do everything. It is a solution though, since it will gather more posts and hopefully make people more likely to check it out. Since there isn't big interest in it yet, maybe I can do that. What do you think?


I think it's perfect. Thank you so much. Will link to your post the moment I see it. Maybe if you have time, you can PM me about how to do it, so maybe I will do some others in the future.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 03 2013 06:06 GMT
#31
On September 03 2013 15:02 larse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 14:53 lichter wrote:
On September 03 2013 14:44 larse wrote:
On September 03 2013 14:39 lichter wrote:
For NSL: I can make the LR thread for each group or round, and then just update late. It's better than not having a thread. Even if it only gets a few replies at least more people will be aware of it. I guess I'm doing this.

For SWL: Does it appear in the calendar? That's a big issue. It also conflicts with GSL sometimes. digmouse recently made a thread for one of the days, but I think 2 threads per group is too much. Maybe 1 thread with both days is better. I will ask him about it.


Why not a mega thread of the whole tournament? I mean one for NSL only and one for SWL.


One megathread (like RSL) makes looking at results very complicated. Need to spoiler a lot of stuff. It will also be hard to explain who's playing today, though I guess that can be edited whenever there is a set of new players. It's also a burden for one person to do everything. It is a solution though, since it will gather more posts and hopefully make people more likely to check it out. Since there isn't big interest in it yet, maybe I can do that. What do you think?


I think it's perfect. Thank you so much. Will link to your post the moment I see it. Maybe if you have time, you can PM me about how to do it, so maybe I will do some others in the future.


There is a link in my quote for the LR Thread Tutorial.

(still doing it, should be done in a while)
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larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
September 03 2013 06:08 GMT
#32
On September 03 2013 15:06 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 15:02 larse wrote:
On September 03 2013 14:53 lichter wrote:
On September 03 2013 14:44 larse wrote:
On September 03 2013 14:39 lichter wrote:
For NSL: I can make the LR thread for each group or round, and then just update late. It's better than not having a thread. Even if it only gets a few replies at least more people will be aware of it. I guess I'm doing this.

For SWL: Does it appear in the calendar? That's a big issue. It also conflicts with GSL sometimes. digmouse recently made a thread for one of the days, but I think 2 threads per group is too much. Maybe 1 thread with both days is better. I will ask him about it.


Why not a mega thread of the whole tournament? I mean one for NSL only and one for SWL.


One megathread (like RSL) makes looking at results very complicated. Need to spoiler a lot of stuff. It will also be hard to explain who's playing today, though I guess that can be edited whenever there is a set of new players. It's also a burden for one person to do everything. It is a solution though, since it will gather more posts and hopefully make people more likely to check it out. Since there isn't big interest in it yet, maybe I can do that. What do you think?


I think it's perfect. Thank you so much. Will link to your post the moment I see it. Maybe if you have time, you can PM me about how to do it, so maybe I will do some others in the future.


There is a link in my quote for the LR Thread Tutorial.

(still doing it, should be done in a while)


Wow, that's so helpful. Will read.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 03 2013 06:38 GMT
#33
NSL thread is up!

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=427875

Is there any easy place to check the schedule for the games?
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larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
September 03 2013 06:42 GMT
#34
On September 03 2013 15:38 lichter wrote:
NSL thread is up!

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=427875

Is there any easy place to check the schedule for the games?



Event Calendar (in Chinese)


Unfortunately the even calendars are all in Chinese. But you can use browser to search for keywords such as NSL or SWL. The time zone is call CST – China Standard Time.

http://live.neotv.cn/LiveV2Channel.aspx/Programs

http://sc2.163.com/calendar/
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 03 2013 06:51 GMT
#35
I am fine with a Chinese calendar since I can read Chinese. I'm not very good at it but it's doable.

Those schedules don't say who is playing though?
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larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 07:05:28
September 03 2013 07:01 GMT
#36
On September 03 2013 15:51 lichter wrote:
I am fine with a Chinese calendar since I can read Chinese. I'm not very good at it but it's doable.

Those schedules don't say who is playing though?


No, they don't say it. But here is what you can do.

They will normally update the dedicated post several hours before the match (they will update the same posts, you need to go to the newest page):

NSL: http://s.163.com/13/0819/15/96LB5G0800314Q91_8.html

NSL (ver2): http://sc2.neotv.cn/content-31-2280-9.html

SWL: http://s.163.com/13/0823/14/96VH575D00314Q8M_3.html

SWL (ver2): http://sc2.neotv.cn/content-33-2459-4.html

Also, here is a weekly schedule with players and matches (the link will change after one week):

http://s.163.com/13/0902/10/97OSA7VB00314Q8U.html
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 07:16:46
September 03 2013 07:16 GMT
#37
Their LR OPs are fancy

I am envious :x

This is good enough!
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Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
September 03 2013 07:26 GMT
#38
Thanks for the good guide.
Didn't know that the time was that good for Europe (if you don't have work/school) so I know what I'm going to watch at lunch
The curse is real
barny94
Profile Joined April 2010
France39 Posts
September 03 2013 10:28 GMT
#39
Hi ! Thx for the thread !

Do u have more information about that Redbull chinese tournament (players/format/stream) ? 16.000$ sounds awesome !!!

ThX !
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
September 03 2013 15:40 GMT
#40
BreAker approves. Good job OP...
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 18:18:42
September 03 2013 18:18 GMT
#41
News

WCG China 2013 Prize Pool for SC2 announced. It's about $7350 or ¥45,000.

Source: http://sc2.tgbus.com/zxzx/201309/20130903124758.shtml
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 03 2013 18:54 GMT
#42
Thanks for this info!
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Giorgiowu
Profile Joined September 2013
China3 Posts
September 03 2013 19:24 GMT
#43
Chinese SC2 needs your attention!Tanks, guys!
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
September 04 2013 02:51 GMT
#44
News

NetEase Reveals eSports Strategic Plan or say the 5 million dollar plan

[image loading]

This strategic plan is mostly about Heroes of Kingdoms but it did mentioned that that there will be top SC2 tournament in the end of the year.

Source: http://s.163.com/13/0904/09/97TUTPHD00314Q8K.html
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 04 2013 02:54 GMT
#45
I really want to play Heroes of Kingdoms. I love RoTK
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larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 07:15:34
September 04 2013 03:49 GMT
#46
SWL starts at 11:00 GMT (+00:00)

Parting
Macsed
Loner
HAS

http://www.teamliquid.net/calendar/2013/09/#event_18294
FancyII
Profile Joined September 2013
1 Post
September 04 2013 10:47 GMT
#47
This is great!
Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
September 04 2013 14:16 GMT
#48
TL should start covering the chinese scene more!
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mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 17:31:28
September 04 2013 16:40 GMT
#49
Will all these games be recorded for Aligulac, and TLPD points rankings?

TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
September 04 2013 18:13 GMT
#50
On September 05 2013 01:40 mikumegurine wrote:
Will all these games be recorded for Aligulac

If we miss any, feel free to submit them for us.
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
September 04 2013 19:22 GMT
#51
sup, I will post if I see anything blatantly missed, thanks for making this and giving chinese starcraft attention!
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mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 19:26:44
September 04 2013 19:26 GMT
#52
btw i just noticed

[image loading]

that the artwork has nice ass ets

wink wink
Survivor61316
Profile Joined July 2012
United States470 Posts
September 04 2013 23:50 GMT
#53
Honestly, I don't see the point of all the excitement for the Chinese scene..its not like the scene there is overflowing with talent. Wow, so they have two players that are in any way recognizable; how does that constitute an an entire WCS region getting devoted to them?? HerO wiped the floor with his group in the StarsWar league, which contained two of their supposedly "notable players," not even dropping a map; even some no name Australian player in iaguz was able to split both of his series with the Chinese players..and who the f*** is iaguz??

Sure its cool that a country with such a large population is getting into the game, but lets be realistic about it people. There is absolutely no reason for them to get a WCS region, and no reason to be overly excited just for the sake of following, lets admit it, some pretty mediocre pro players matches.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28469 Posts
September 05 2013 00:15 GMT
#54
On September 05 2013 08:50 Survivor61316 wrote:
Honestly, I don't see the point of all the excitement for the Chinese scene..its not like the scene there is overflowing with talent. Wow, so they have two players that are in any way recognizable; how does that constitute an an entire WCS region getting devoted to them?? HerO wiped the floor with his group in the StarsWar league, which contained two of their supposedly "notable players," not even dropping a map; even some no name Australian player in iaguz was able to split both of his series with the Chinese players..and who the f*** is iaguz??

Sure its cool that a country with such a large population is getting into the game, but lets be realistic about it people. There is absolutely no reason for them to get a WCS region, and no reason to be overly excited just for the sake of following, lets admit it, some pretty mediocre pro players matches.

What a strange post. First; The OP isn't about a Chinese WCS and second: The American scene isn't exactly overflowing with talent either. Besides, a fourth WCS region would be Asia and Oceania. So basically everyone left out of the other three.
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
September 05 2013 00:16 GMT
#55
On September 05 2013 08:50 Survivor61316 wrote:
Honestly, I don't see the point of all the excitement for the Chinese scene..its not like the scene there is overflowing with talent. Wow, so they have two players that are in any way recognizable; how does that constitute an an entire WCS region getting devoted to them?? HerO wiped the floor with his group in the StarsWar league, which contained two of their supposedly "notable players," not even dropping a map; even some no name Australian player in iaguz was able to split both of his series with the Chinese players..and who the f*** is iaguz??

Sure its cool that a country with such a large population is getting into the game, but lets be realistic about it people. There is absolutely no reason for them to get a WCS region, and no reason to be overly excited just for the sake of following, lets admit it, some pretty mediocre pro players matches.


So all the mediocre American players are entitled to coverage, benefits, corporate sponsorship, etc, where as the rest of the world who arguably play better don't matter?
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Survivor61316
Profile Joined July 2012
United States470 Posts
September 05 2013 00:32 GMT
#56
On September 05 2013 09:15 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 08:50 Survivor61316 wrote:
Honestly, I don't see the point of all the excitement for the Chinese scene..its not like the scene there is overflowing with talent. Wow, so they have two players that are in any way recognizable; how does that constitute an an entire WCS region getting devoted to them?? HerO wiped the floor with his group in the StarsWar league, which contained two of their supposedly "notable players," not even dropping a map; even some no name Australian player in iaguz was able to split both of his series with the Chinese players..and who the f*** is iaguz??

Sure its cool that a country with such a large population is getting into the game, but lets be realistic about it people. There is absolutely no reason for them to get a WCS region, and no reason to be overly excited just for the sake of following, lets admit it, some pretty mediocre pro players matches.

What a strange post. First; The OP isn't about a Chinese WCS and second: The American scene isn't exactly overflowing with talent either. Besides, a fourth WCS region would be Asia and Oceania. So basically everyone left out of the other three.

I was responding to the many posts saying China should get their own WCS region. I don't disagree with the American scenes lack of talent, obviously outside Scarlett (best foreigner IMO), and don't really see what your point was in saying that. Maybe you meant they don't deserve their own WCS region either due to lack of talent, but the obvious rebuttal to that is that they have been hosting premier tournaments which have included the best players in the world for some time now, and thus they have an established scene, even if their players aren't domestic.
Liquid Fighting
Survivor61316
Profile Joined July 2012
United States470 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 00:38:21
September 05 2013 00:36 GMT
#57
On September 05 2013 09:16 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 08:50 Survivor61316 wrote:
Honestly, I don't see the point of all the excitement for the Chinese scene..its not like the scene there is overflowing with talent. Wow, so they have two players that are in any way recognizable; how does that constitute an an entire WCS region getting devoted to them?? HerO wiped the floor with his group in the StarsWar league, which contained two of their supposedly "notable players," not even dropping a map; even some no name Australian player in iaguz was able to split both of his series with the Chinese players..and who the f*** is iaguz??

Sure its cool that a country with such a large population is getting into the game, but lets be realistic about it people. There is absolutely no reason for them to get a WCS region, and no reason to be overly excited just for the sake of following, lets admit it, some pretty mediocre pro players matches.


So all the mediocre American players are entitled to coverage, benefits, corporate sponsorship, etc, where as the rest of the world who arguably play better don't matter?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_2_America/Premier#Playoffs

Only 6 American players in the top 32 of season 2 WCS...dont see your point.

But yes I do think all the players were able to make it into the premier league deserve "coverage, benefits, corporate sponsorship, ect"

edit: that includes the FOUR Chinese players who were able to make it in with those "mediocre players"
Liquid Fighting
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
September 05 2013 00:50 GMT
#58
damn is F91 back? right when greg is gone, too, haha
can i get my estro logo back pls
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28469 Posts
September 05 2013 01:22 GMT
#59
On September 05 2013 09:32 Survivor61316 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 09:15 Penev wrote:
On September 05 2013 08:50 Survivor61316 wrote:
Honestly, I don't see the point of all the excitement for the Chinese scene..its not like the scene there is overflowing with talent. Wow, so they have two players that are in any way recognizable; how does that constitute an an entire WCS region getting devoted to them?? HerO wiped the floor with his group in the StarsWar league, which contained two of their supposedly "notable players," not even dropping a map; even some no name Australian player in iaguz was able to split both of his series with the Chinese players..and who the f*** is iaguz??

Sure its cool that a country with such a large population is getting into the game, but lets be realistic about it people. There is absolutely no reason for them to get a WCS region, and no reason to be overly excited just for the sake of following, lets admit it, some pretty mediocre pro players matches.

What a strange post. First; The OP isn't about a Chinese WCS and second: The American scene isn't exactly overflowing with talent either. Besides, a fourth WCS region would be Asia and Oceania. So basically everyone left out of the other three.

I was responding to the many posts saying China should get their own WCS region. I don't disagree with the American scenes lack of talent, obviously outside Scarlett (best foreigner IMO), and don't really see what your point was in saying that. Maybe you meant they don't deserve their own WCS region either due to lack of talent, but the obvious rebuttal to that is that they have been hosting premier tournaments which have included the best players in the world for some time now, and thus they have an established scene, even if their players aren't domestic.

I was responding to the many posts saying China should get their own WCS region.
There's about 4 posts about a Chinese WCS.. :-S
Your whole post is about the Chinese scene not having enough talent to warrant their own scene but in your reply you're suddenly talking about hosting tournaments. Never heard about Warcraft 3? The Chinese can host tournaments no problem.
Maybe you meant they don't deserve their own WCS region either due to lack of talent
Of course not. You are the one talking about people not "worthy" of their own region and I'm obviously calling you out for that. What don't you understand about that?
Asia + Oceania (not just China) have enough good players to warrant their own region and, considering geography, it would probably become the third Code A. But I'm not advocating a 4th WCS region here; I'm just responding to your unnecessarily negative and out of the blue (hence strange) post.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
September 05 2013 01:23 GMT
#60
*Starcraft 2 scene
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 02:08:18
September 05 2013 02:05 GMT
#61
On September 05 2013 08:50 Survivor61316 wrote:
Honestly, I don't see the point of all the excitement for the Chinese scene..its not like the scene there is overflowing with talent. Wow, so they have two players that are in any way recognizable; how does that constitute an an entire WCS region getting devoted to them?? HerO wiped the floor with his group in the StarsWar league, which contained two of their supposedly "notable players," not even dropping a map; even some no name Australian player in iaguz was able to split both of his series with the Chinese players..and who the f*** is iaguz??

Sure its cool that a country with such a large population is getting into the game, but lets be realistic about it people. There is absolutely no reason for them to get a WCS region, and no reason to be overly excited just for the sake of following, lets admit it, some pretty mediocre pro players matches.


I am the OP and I agree and disagree with you on different points.

I know that you are responding to the posts that says China should get its own WCS. I know that most Chinese players don't have that Korean level skills. I also know that the Chinese scene may not be as good as it sounds. And I am ok to admit that there may be a little over-hyped about the Chinese scene, (which I kinda jumped in and magnified).

China screwed up last year's WCS Asia and WCS Global Finals to some extent. It's not terrible but realistically it will be better if it was held in EU. The cancellation of the WCS China and Asia, I think, may have something to do with that.

But does the cancellation of the WCS China and Asia actually helped improving and channeling resources into the other regions? I guess not. Even though WCS China and Asia were not that fascinating, they were still pretty decent events in 2012 and brought a lot of attention and curiosity in the West. SC2 scene, I guess, kinda lacks new stuff a the moment. And WCS China and Asia definitely bring something new, rare, and funny to the West.

There may seem to be an over-hype of the Chinese scene in the last few weeks. This was due to the bad things of Korean scene and some of the negativity about the NA scene. So people were trying to find a positive thing to be confident about SC2. Then China came in with some great news.

However, I doubt it is a real hype. The attention to the Chinese scene outside China is still as small as it can be. I am cautiously rational about how many people that this thread can bring to follow the Chinese scene. Though I am happy about yesterday's NSL TL LR thread. It got 60 replies. In 2012, NSL LR threads got like 3-4 replies in average.

Nevertheless, these are the exact reasons that I want to help the Chinese scene for what I can. It should and can be better. And I was trying to do what I can to help it, maybe, a tiny little bit.
reekjohn
Profile Joined September 2013
China1 Post
September 05 2013 03:34 GMT
#62
MISS is LOL player now.
i'm on fire
Survivor61316
Profile Joined July 2012
United States470 Posts
September 05 2013 03:42 GMT
#63
On September 05 2013 11:05 larse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 08:50 Survivor61316 wrote:
Honestly, I don't see the point of all the excitement for the Chinese scene..its not like the scene there is overflowing with talent. Wow, so they have two players that are in any way recognizable; how does that constitute an an entire WCS region getting devoted to them?? HerO wiped the floor with his group in the StarsWar league, which contained two of their supposedly "notable players," not even dropping a map; even some no name Australian player in iaguz was able to split both of his series with the Chinese players..and who the f*** is iaguz??

Sure its cool that a country with such a large population is getting into the game, but lets be realistic about it people. There is absolutely no reason for them to get a WCS region, and no reason to be overly excited just for the sake of following, lets admit it, some pretty mediocre pro players matches.


I am the OP and I agree and disagree with you on different points.

I know that you are responding to the posts that says China should get its own WCS. I know that most Chinese players don't have that Korean level skills. I also know that the Chinese scene may not be as good as it sounds. And I am ok to admit that there may be a little over-hyped about the Chinese scene, (which I kinda jumped in and magnified).

China screwed up last year's WCS Asia and WCS Global Finals to some extent. It's not terrible but realistically it will be better if it was held in EU. The cancellation of the WCS China and Asia, I think, may have something to do with that.

But does the cancellation of the WCS China and Asia actually helped improving and channeling resources into the other regions? I guess not. Even though WCS China and Asia were not that fascinating, they were still pretty decent events in 2012 and brought a lot of attention and curiosity in the West. SC2 scene, I guess, kinda lacks new stuff a the moment. And WCS China and Asia definitely bring something new, rare, and funny to the West.

There may seem to be an over-hype of the Chinese scene in the last few weeks. This was due to the bad things of Korean scene and some of the negativity about the NA scene. So people were trying to find a positive thing to be confident about SC2. Then China came in with some great news.

However, I doubt it is a real hype. The attention to the Chinese scene outside China is still as small as it can be. I am cautiously rational about how many people that this thread can bring to follow the Chinese scene. Though I am happy about yesterday's NSL TL LR thread. It got 60 replies. In 2012, NSL LR threads got like 3-4 replies in average.

Nevertheless, these are the exact reasons that I want to help the Chinese scene for what I can. It should and can be better. And I was trying to do what I can to help it, maybe, a tiny little bit.

I understand where youre coming from, and like I said before, I think it would be cool for a country with such a large population to start getting into SC2. And I wasnt saying China is unable to host large well put together tournaments, just that they do not yet have the infrastructure to do so, nor do they have the level of players required to legitimize those tournaments as being of the premier level.
Liquid Fighting
jalen
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia222 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 06:54:11
September 05 2013 06:48 GMT
#64
On September 05 2013 12:42 Survivor61316 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 11:05 larse wrote:
On September 05 2013 08:50 Survivor61316 wrote:
Honestly, I don't see the point of all the excitement for the Chinese scene..its not like the scene there is overflowing with talent. Wow, so they have two players that are in any way recognizable; how does that constitute an an entire WCS region getting devoted to them?? HerO wiped the floor with his group in the StarsWar league, which contained two of their supposedly "notable players," not even dropping a map; even some no name Australian player in iaguz was able to split both of his series with the Chinese players..and who the f*** is iaguz??

Sure its cool that a country with such a large population is getting into the game, but lets be realistic about it people. There is absolutely no reason for them to get a WCS region, and no reason to be overly excited just for the sake of following, lets admit it, some pretty mediocre pro players matches.


I am the OP and I agree and disagree with you on different points.

I know that you are responding to the posts that says China should get its own WCS. I know that most Chinese players don't have that Korean level skills. I also know that the Chinese scene may not be as good as it sounds. And I am ok to admit that there may be a little over-hyped about the Chinese scene, (which I kinda jumped in and magnified).

China screwed up last year's WCS Asia and WCS Global Finals to some extent. It's not terrible but realistically it will be better if it was held in EU. The cancellation of the WCS China and Asia, I think, may have something to do with that.

But does the cancellation of the WCS China and Asia actually helped improving and channeling resources into the other regions? I guess not. Even though WCS China and Asia were not that fascinating, they were still pretty decent events in 2012 and brought a lot of attention and curiosity in the West. SC2 scene, I guess, kinda lacks new stuff a the moment. And WCS China and Asia definitely bring something new, rare, and funny to the West.

There may seem to be an over-hype of the Chinese scene in the last few weeks. This was due to the bad things of Korean scene and some of the negativity about the NA scene. So people were trying to find a positive thing to be confident about SC2. Then China came in with some great news.

However, I doubt it is a real hype. The attention to the Chinese scene outside China is still as small as it can be. I am cautiously rational about how many people that this thread can bring to follow the Chinese scene. Though I am happy about yesterday's NSL TL LR thread. It got 60 replies. In 2012, NSL LR threads got like 3-4 replies in average.

Nevertheless, these are the exact reasons that I want to help the Chinese scene for what I can. It should and can be better. And I was trying to do what I can to help it, maybe, a tiny little bit.

I understand where youre coming from, and like I said before, I think it would be cool for a country with such a large population to start getting into SC2. And I wasnt saying China is unable to host large well put together tournaments, just that they do not yet have the infrastructure to do so, nor do they have the level of players required to legitimize those tournaments as being of the premier level.


These Chinese got tech skill and hardware to support them to hold any event but not for SC2. Why? because there are not so many people playing sc2 in china compare to LOL and Dota.
BTW, last years WCS and this years IEM shanghai was unsucessufl because all the tech staff they are using come along with Bilzzard and ESL, not the local guy. If you ever watch G-League or NSL offline events, it's great and never have any tech issue.

Why don't you play other Dota kind games? Because there is no Denies!!!!
AyaaLa
Profile Joined February 2012
Spain629 Posts
September 05 2013 06:52 GMT
#65
Xié xié! Thanks. I am trying to learn mandarin hopefully i'll learn more after seing some sc2 in chinese.
i balance whine all the time.
PetitCrabe
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada410 Posts
September 06 2013 00:42 GMT
#66
What are the headphones Miss is wearing in the first picture?
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-06 14:39:31
September 06 2013 14:37 GMT
#67
On September 05 2013 08:50 Survivor61316 wrote:
Honestly, I don't see the point of all the excitement for the Chinese scene..its not like the scene there is overflowing with talent. Wow, so they have two players that are in any way recognizable; how does that constitute an an entire WCS region getting devoted to them?? HerO wiped the floor with his group in the StarsWar league, which contained two of their supposedly "notable players," not even dropping a map; even some no name Australian player in iaguz was able to split both of his series with the Chinese players..and who the f*** is iaguz??

Sure its cool that a country with such a large population is getting into the game, but lets be realistic about it people. There is absolutely no reason for them to get a WCS region, and no reason to be overly excited just for the sake of following, lets admit it, some pretty mediocre pro players matches.

Iaguz is pretty good. Was on Meta a couple of times as well, he is kind of unknown unless you follow the Australian scene.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Iaguz

There's definitely talent in china, Macsed and Jim are just 2 examples of that.
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plgElwood
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany518 Posts
September 06 2013 15:59 GMT
#68
I thought about chinese Sc2 yesterday, and here is the thread :D great.
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
Comet702
Profile Joined April 2010
China236 Posts
September 06 2013 17:02 GMT
#69
On September 05 2013 12:34 reekjohn wrote:
MISS is LOL player now.


I agree with it, sad about that.
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larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
September 06 2013 21:47 GMT
#70
On September 07 2013 02:02 Comet702 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 12:34 reekjohn wrote:
MISS is LOL player now.


I agree with it, sad about that.


We can't blame her. Realistically many female players' skill level isn't going to get a major champion or anything. So stick with the most popular esport and make income based on other attributes other than being fully competitive is a good way. It sounds sexist but it's the situation.
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
September 06 2013 22:15 GMT
#71
News

Vivi Gaming's player Comm announces plan to retire in the end of this year and discloses some unfair treatment that he received in the past two years.

Source: http://s.163.com/13/0906/10/9834JQNH00314Q8N.html
John Madden
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
American Samoa894 Posts
September 07 2013 04:36 GMT
#72
if anyone knows how to beat jimcredible please pm me
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mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
September 07 2013 04:37 GMT
#73
On September 07 2013 13:36 John Madden wrote:
if anyone knows how to beat jimcredible please pm me


6pool, pull all drones
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 07 2013 04:47 GMT
#74
On September 07 2013 13:36 John Madden wrote:
if anyone knows how to beat jimcredible please pm me


AK almost beat him after going hatch-pool-hatch-hatch-hatch. He followed it up with 2 more hatcheries. Yes, 6 base without speed.
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xenoZhang
Profile Joined July 2012
China142 Posts
September 13 2013 04:12 GMT
#75
On September 05 2013 12:34 reekjohn wrote:
MISS is LOL player now.


more of a caster, sad for Joy
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warcralft
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore609 Posts
September 13 2013 06:43 GMT
#76
I'll be in china for intern for 2 months. I can read and understand chinese(Singaporean chinese). OP have any links to their community websites so i can follow their scene or even join any of their tournaments? Thanks!
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-13 06:48:40
September 13 2013 06:47 GMT
#77
On September 13 2013 15:43 warcralft wrote:
I'll be in china for intern for 2 months. I can read and understand chinese(Singaporean chinese). OP have any links to their community websites so i can follow their scene or even join any of their tournaments? Thanks!


You can find out most of the domestic tournament information here: http://sc2.neotv.cn/

That 2v2 tournament accepts players to join.

Here is the forum for the same website: http://bbs.neotv.cn/forum-161-1.html
Utopi
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark176 Posts
September 13 2013 07:28 GMT
#78
Didn't know about this thread It gives a pretty awesome overview !
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BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
September 13 2013 11:51 GMT
#79
On September 07 2013 07:15 larse wrote:
News

Vivi Gaming's player Comm announces plan to retire in the end of this year and discloses some unfair treatment that he received in the past two years.

Source: http://s.163.com/13/0906/10/9834JQNH00314Q8N.html

Thanks for the info. I will translate this.

Other queries: Why didn't I think of making this thread to begin with?
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
September 13 2013 19:26 GMT
#80
On September 13 2013 20:51 Enders116 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2013 07:15 larse wrote:
News

Vivi Gaming's player Comm announces plan to retire in the end of this year and discloses some unfair treatment that he received in the past two years.

Source: http://s.163.com/13/0906/10/9834JQNH00314Q8N.html

Thanks for the info. I will translate this.

Other queries: Why didn't I think of making this thread to begin with?


That was just an sudden motive for me.

I welcome you update this thread. If you have anything new, post here and I will put it on the top post.
Salient
Profile Joined August 2011
United States876 Posts
September 15 2013 14:07 GMT
#81
Is there any estimate of the number of Chinese players? It could easily become the largest region just based on China's population.
freeamount
Profile Joined April 2010
China202 Posts
October 11 2013 02:15 GMT
#82
WCG 2013 Chinese Qualifier National Finals will start in 5:30 CEST (UTC+2), only 1 hour away.

(Wiki)World Cyber Games 2013/Qualifiers/China

I am wondering if there is anyone would provide English casting of this event

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freeamount
Profile Joined April 2010
China202 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 05:09:37
October 11 2013 05:08 GMT
#83
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