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Translated from Chinese by wooyeon: http://www.playsc.com/forum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=378527
Korean original: http://sports.news.naver.com/sports/index.nhn?category=e_sports&ctg=news&mod=read&office_id=347&article_id=0000044872&date=20130901&page=2 (personal reflection)
http://sports.news.naver.com/sports/index.nhn?category=e_sports&ctg=news&mod=read&office_id=347&article_id=0000044875&date=20130901&page=2 (story update)
UPDATE: DES' story about the entire transfer thing:
On 20th August, INnoVation submit his application into the KeSPA posting and required a salary of 100 million Won/year. In foreign teams players can keep their prize money winnings, but in KeSPA teams they can't, the teams will have a share, so he thinks that amount of salary is geniune.
Then news came that KeSPA teams are not in good shape, he realized that no team will be able to match his offer. Back in June when STX was rumored to be disbanding, a lot of teams were already approaching him, including some KeSPA teams. And Acer is among the most active teams, has been actively in touch with STX since July.
On 21st August, before departing to WCS S2 Finals, INnoVation already signed on the KeSPA posting application. Then Coach Kim had a talk with him, told him that judging from various scenarios, Acer might be able to take him during his time in Germany, but he can't sign with them, not until the posting is complete.
Just as Coach Kim predicted, Acer's manager was with INnoVation the entire time in Germany.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/YcTo3tn.jpg)
The Acer manager explained that they need to finalized their roster in preparation of GSTL, so it's better this gets settled down asap. After a lot of talks and negotiations INnoVation gave the nod.
But Acer was too eager with the announcement, it would be perfectly fine if they announce it after the posting, but the early news caught the Korean side off guard and everything breaks loose. Not only INnoVation's "dual contract" violates the Korean contract law, Acer contacting the player individually without the team's consent is also a violation to the general rule in the scene. STX contacted Acer immediately but no calls were answered. It was a journalist who was in Germany that contacted Acer and informed them about this, then Acer delayed their annoucement till 1st September.
After INnoVation returned to Korea he immediately apologized, in the end KeSPA gave the greenlight considering the player's will.
INnoVation's personal reflections:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1SlHcj5.jpg)
INnoVation has joined Acer. Even both parties has settled down agreements very early in the day, since his contract didn't end until 31st August, Acer postponed the announcement till 1st Septemeber. INnoVation is the first KeSPA player who won an premier individual tournament to join a foreign team.
But the process isn't without any obstacle. Acer initially thought INnoVation's contract ends on 25th August, so they spread the word way too early. But INnoVation didn't enter the KeSPA posting/drafting process then, and his contract with SouL is still valid, which results in a awkward situation.
"First of all, I want to say sorry. I told the manager of Acer, I think it's better for me to join a foreign team, but the entire thing isn't sorted out very well. I told KeSPA that I will attend the posting, and my contract with STX didn't end, but I act too carelessly, I feel very sorry about this."
He didn't realize that Acer will misread his contract ending time. At least everything went well, but these twists gave him a lesson, to think more before acting in the future.
But why INnoVation decides to join Acer just before the posting? During his times at STX, he realized under what kind of environment he could get better results. STX used to run on strict training schedules, INnoVation had good skills back then but had no good results. Then the team switched to a more free training environment, INnoVation's skill and results sky rocketed.
"It's quite a coincidence but I feel it's better for me to achieve good results under a free training environment. KeSPA teams are sponsor teams, they can't keep that kind of freedom. It's more that having a better environment rather than money that makes me this decision."
Though KeSPA teams offer better salary, INnoVation still hopes he can fulfull fans' expectations as soon as possible, he thinks a much more familiar training environment is more important. This is the biggest reason he chose a foreign team.
And being able to attend foreign tournaments freely is also attracting him.
But his transfer gains so much heat makes him feel sorry, "I will work harder for my success after joining a foreign team."
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awesome stuff thanks for the translation!
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Interesting that he feels like that strict Korean training regime held him back.
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Thanks for the translation. The training environment makes sense for why he wanted a foreign team.
Excited to see him play under the Acer team name.
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On September 01 2013 04:08 Zealos wrote:
Interesting that he feels like that strict Korean training regime held him back.
A lot of players feel like this. I remember when SC2 first started up, ST had a really lax and free practice schedule, because the coach (ex-WMF coach) felt that too strenuous a schedule would actually interfere with the players' results, and he didn't want to run a sweatshop. The players who want to practice more strictly can practice more strictly, the ones who didn't could take it at a slower pace. Different strokes and all.
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It's impossible to compare training regimes during a transitional period.
Yes, the strict training regime in BW made a lot of people unhappy (to say the least), and almost any player will say they prefer a more relaxed training. But in the end, actual results made a very brutal point - there was no gain without pain. There was simply no other way, no alternative method that worked better for different type of a player.
Some players being rejuvenated at the start of their SC2 careers (whether in 2010 or after the Kespa switch) likely has more to do with the actual transition than the relaxed training. Some players feel invigorated and motivated by the fresh start, and perhaps adapt to the game better initially. Others just didn't enjoy the game as much, got lazier, and declined very quickly no matter the training schedule.
Point being, it's much more likely that switching to a new game is the key factor for a drastic improvement (or decline in other players), rather than switching to a more relaxed training schedule.
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Hopefully that will show people, both those wanting to become a pro and those complaining about non-Korean pros, that a very strict training regime is not necesarily a good thing.
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Well, we already know some players, even korean one, can strive more in a more relaxed practice regime.
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On September 01 2013 04:08 Zealos wrote:
Interesting that he feels like that strict Korean training regime held him back.
An example of a player working better when free lancing his own laid back practice is violet, in the strict training of team MVP he was an awful zerg that lucked into code S by ending up in an up and downs group with kyrix and thewind. When he went solo and chilled in Texas he became one of the best and consistent zergs in the world. Some people just benefit from other training set ups.
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I think he is correct, sc2 is not a game you can grind, it must balanced well with other lifestyles.
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Perhaps strict training environments are good for any player needing to improve their skills to a top-tier pro level, and after that, once you are good enough to be competitive internationally with other top pros, then more or less freedom of training should be adopted depending on the individual's personality/affinities so they can be able to continue to improve (instead of stagnate and not reach their full potential).
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I wonder which Kespa team (if anybody) would have picked up Innovation, had he not decide to go with Acer
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On September 01 2013 04:39 Jinky wrote:
Perhaps strict training environments are good for any player needing to improve their skills to a top-tier pro level, and after that, once you are good enough to be competitive internationally with other top pros, then more or less freedom of training should be adopted depending on the individual's personality/affinities so they can be able to continue to improve (instead of stagnate and not reach their full potential).
I dunno if I agree with this. I think it's highly dependent on the game that you are playing. SCII doesn't require as much practice as BW did due to the mechanical requirements difference so image training after getting some good mechanics done can be as useful as actual training.
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On September 01 2013 04:36 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 04:08 Zealos wrote:
Interesting that he feels like that strict Korean training regime held him back. An example of a player working better when free lancing his own laid back practice is violet, in the strict training of team MVP he was an awful zerg that lucked into code S by ending up in an up and downs group with kyrix and thewind. When he went solo and chilled in Texas he became one of the best and consistent zergs in the world. Some people just benefit from other training set ups.
Polt is another big example. He got really good since coming to America.
Taeja and HerO as well to some extent, or at least the same in form.
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@Zenbrez KTRolster? imagine Flash and Innovation on a team together :D or LGIM bolster an already impressive lineup :D
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Oh god he thinks free training schedule is the source of his results, well hf sucking from now on.
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So now I am waiting for people to tell me that playing all day long is good
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On September 01 2013 04:52 Lorch wrote:
Oh god he thinks free training schedule is the source of his results, well hf sucking from now on.
Yes, you obviously know him better than he knows himself. :D
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I understand that his salary with Acer is lower than it was with STX, then? Or just lower than the offers from other KeSPA teams? Well, that's kind of surprising to me.
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On September 01 2013 04:52 Nerchio wrote:
So now I am waiting for people to tell me that playing all day long is good
Too late, they arrived like hungry locusts to this thread
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Adds more stuff, presumably quite explosive.
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On September 01 2013 04:56 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 04:52 Lorch wrote:
Oh god he thinks free training schedule is the source of his results, well hf sucking from now on. Yes, you obviously know him better than he knows himself. :D
If he actually thinks he performed better in hots than he did in bw because of the training schedule, yes apparently I do. But I tend to not read much into 2x translated interviews.
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On September 01 2013 04:58 Lorch wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 04:56 babylon wrote:On September 01 2013 04:52 Lorch wrote:
Oh god he thinks free training schedule is the source of his results, well hf sucking from now on. Yes, you obviously know him better than he knows himself. :D If he actually thinks he performed better in hots than he did in bw because of the training schedule, yes apparently I do. But I tend to not read much into 2x translated interviews.
Oh god... your complete and utter lack of understanding of how humans work and don't work is quite astounding.
You do realise that different people prosper under different circumstances right? A training schedule that makes one person a star can totally ruin another person and vice versa.
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On September 01 2013 05:01 Fluffboll wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 04:58 Lorch wrote:On September 01 2013 04:56 babylon wrote:On September 01 2013 04:52 Lorch wrote:
Oh god he thinks free training schedule is the source of his results, well hf sucking from now on. Yes, you obviously know him better than he knows himself. :D If he actually thinks he performed better in hots than he did in bw because of the training schedule, yes apparently I do. But I tend to not read much into 2x translated interviews. Oh god... your complete and utter lack of understanding of how humans work and don't work is quite astounding. You do realise that different people prosper under different circumstances right? A training schedule that makes one person a star can totally ruin another person and vice versa.
So the fact that the only relevant people in brood war spent 8+ hours means nothing (savior was the lowest with exactly 8)? Where you see difference in humans (I love how arrogantly you assume so much while telling me how little I know) I see difference in quality of games, and If I have to choose between the only decent game released in recent times being crap as you don't have to spent 8+ hours to be good or bogus getting it all wrong, I know which one I pick.
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On September 01 2013 04:56 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 04:52 Lorch wrote:
Oh god he thinks free training schedule is the source of his results, well hf sucking from now on. Yes, you obviously know him better than he knows himself. :D
Perhaps not, but then again an interview where he needs to plug his new team and justify his career choice might not be the best indicator of what he's thinking. Just saying.
Also, do note that nobody's saying he isn't happier and doesn't feel better in the new environment, but it'll take more than words to convince people that a lower work intensity will deliver better results.
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if Innovation thinks acer is whats best for him then I think acer is whats best for him... GOGO innovation! <3
Sickest nerdballer ever.
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thank you for the 2 translations digmouse!
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On September 01 2013 04:52 Nerchio wrote:
So now I am waiting for people to tell me that playing all day long is good
What are you doing here, reading forums and posting stuff? Go practice!
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some posters in this thread........ -_-
lol nerchio XD
Make sense for him to go to a foreign team despite a lower salary but get to keep all the prize money to himself.
thanks for the translation and good luck bogus!
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Nicely done, digmouse. You are the man. See, digmouse, very few people do this in TL.
BTW, digmouse, don't do the after-match interview translation. It's boring and few people care too much, unless there are some controversies of what that player says.
Now PlaySC is quite a frequent source of TL. 
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On September 01 2013 05:18 larse wrote:Nicely done, digmouse. You are the man. See, digmouse, very few people do this in TL. BTW, digmouse, don't do the after-match interview translation. It's boring and few people care too much, unless there are some controversies of what that player says. Now PlaySC is quite a frequent source of TL.
Per your request it's on r/starcraft 
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1lh9sd/how_innovation_joined_acer_and_his_personal/
I'm not planning to do match interview anyways, yes it's boring for most times, and I don't understand Korean.
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Meh, there goes our terran warrior. At least he'll attend some more foreign events.
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Kespa gave in and considered the players will O.o dafuq that's new from kespa
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I will keep on Supporting Innovation no matter what. In sc2 he really won me over especially in Hots and I hope Acer will propell him forward. Even though I loved him at STX and its sad to see them go ;( I just think and hope him joining a foreign team wont decrease his skill.
That said I wish him GL and lots of fun and best wishes and also hope Acer benifets from having such an amazing player on their team
Go and dominate again INnoVation! And I hope to meet you once again when you come to an event in Germany :D (hopefully soon!)
Innovation Fighting!!!!
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On September 01 2013 05:45 ntssauce wrote:Kespa gave in and considered the players will O.o dafuq that's new from kespa
they just try to save face. there was nothing they could do to change the outcome of this transfer. the korean sc2 scene is by far not as strong as the korean bw scene was. kespa already tries to change up their game, but i dont think anyone cares at this point.
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On September 01 2013 05:25 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 05:18 larse wrote:Nicely done, digmouse. You are the man. See, digmouse, very few people do this in TL. BTW, digmouse, don't do the after-match interview translation. It's boring and few people care too much, unless there are some controversies of what that player says. Now PlaySC is quite a frequent source of TL. Per your request it's on r/starcraft http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1lh9sd/how_innovation_joined_acer_and_his_personal/I'm not planning to do match interview anyways, yes it's boring for most times, and I don't understand Korean.
Nice nice. I am still posting stuff around on TL and reddit. Yan MM is really a great source in the scene but unfortunately only us know about.
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On September 01 2013 04:52 Lorch wrote:
Oh god he thinks free training schedule is the source of his results, well hf sucking from now on.
Oh god you think his training schedule is the source of his results. Pure conjecture.
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I personally dont feel SC 2 is comparable to BW in terms of training or practice. Two different games and BW required practice for crazy hours because of the steep mechanics. SC 2 is much easier and more practice does not just translate into being better. I do think you have to play the best to get better so hopefully he practices against the other top players or he will lose his skill
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So he joins a foreign team to get more free training. We will see the outcome even if I'm not that optimistic for his futur
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On September 01 2013 06:05 sacade wrote:So he joins a foreign team to get more free training. We will see the outcome even if I'm not that optimistic for his futur
well if acer is smart they made an incentive based contract with him. i am optimistic, because a player with his mechanics can do wonders in sc2 with the right mindset.
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On September 01 2013 06:08 BlueFlames wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 06:05 sacade wrote:So he joins a foreign team to get more free training. We will see the outcome even if I'm not that optimistic for his futur well if acer is smart they made an incentive based contract with him. i am optimistic, because a player with his mechanics can do wonders in sc2 with the right mindset.
prize money = incentive based contract
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Seems like Innovation was genuinely done with the Kespa feel of his career, and wanted to move to broader horizons and go to more tournaments and win more. I wonder if he will stay in WCS KR, I am assuming he would.
Either way, GOGO BOGUS!
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Cool to see Innovation saying he thrives better in a more relaxed training environment compared to the usual Kespa standard.
Good luck in Acer!
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On September 01 2013 04:52 Nerchio wrote:
So now I am waiting for people to tell me that playing all day long is good
Korean doesn't need to play all day long, still own you guys from left to right in any tournaments they plays.
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Teams really need to start respecting the Code.
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On September 01 2013 04:56 WigglingSquid wrote:
I understand that his salary with Acer is lower than it was with STX, then? Or just lower than the offers from other KeSPA teams? Well, that's kind of surprising to me.
He wanted a salary of $90k USD if he was going to sign for a Kespa team because he wouldn't get much of his prize money winnings.
He joined Acer almost certainly for a lower salary on the basis he will get to keep more prize money, as foreign teams seem to more typically let players keep winnings.
His assumption is that he will get enough prize money to make up the difference between Acer and Kespa salary, but obviously it requires him to perform well.
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On September 01 2013 06:48 StarStruck wrote:
Teams really need to start respecting the Code.
Konami Code I presume
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If INnoVation feels like he does better with the less strict regime he should join Prime D: In all seriousness though, Axiom-Acer is going to be pretty beastly this GSTL season, especially if Scarlett can play even better coming off her break to rest her wrists.
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Aint this very typical? Random people who doesn't know Innovation at all on a personal level think that they know better than him. At least I feel confident about him not bullshitting in this interview
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On September 01 2013 05:05 Lorch wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 05:01 Fluffboll wrote:On September 01 2013 04:58 Lorch wrote:On September 01 2013 04:56 babylon wrote:On September 01 2013 04:52 Lorch wrote:
Oh god he thinks free training schedule is the source of his results, well hf sucking from now on. Yes, you obviously know him better than he knows himself. :D If he actually thinks he performed better in hots than he did in bw because of the training schedule, yes apparently I do. But I tend to not read much into 2x translated interviews. Oh god... your complete and utter lack of understanding of how humans work and don't work is quite astounding. You do realise that different people prosper under different circumstances right? A training schedule that makes one person a star can totally ruin another person and vice versa. So the fact that the only relevant people in brood war spent 8+ hours means nothing (savior was the lowest with exactly 8)? Where you see difference in humans (I love how arrogantly you assume so much while telling me how little I know) I see difference in quality of games, and If I have to choose between the only decent game released in recent times being crap as you don't have to spent 8+ hours to be good or bogus getting it all wrong, I know which one I pick.
Hmm, who to trust about how to get good at SC2, the one time (or still is) best player in the world or TL poster...The fact that Saviour was maybe the best BW player ever and did the least practice might suggest that the others might have burnt out a little or he had a better practice regime maybe? In all walks of life people burn out, BW and SC2 are no different. Taking a break from things helps the brain process stuff, that can help.
And this is genuinely not an insult but as I have no clue if you are really really good at something your views on the subject are a bit irrelevant, as are mine (though I know I am pretty good at some stuff, you do not), so this whole conversation is pretty pointless on a site like TL between no names like ourselves.
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On September 01 2013 04:08 Zealos wrote:
Interesting that he feels like that strict Korean training regime held him back.
I call BS on that one hahaha.
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Free training does not equal less training.
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Echoing the thanks for posting this digmouse!
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On September 01 2013 04:49 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 04:36 Fusilero wrote:On September 01 2013 04:08 Zealos wrote:
Interesting that he feels like that strict Korean training regime held him back. An example of a player working better when free lancing his own laid back practice is violet, in the strict training of team MVP he was an awful zerg that lucked into code S by ending up in an up and downs group with kyrix and thewind. When he went solo and chilled in Texas he became one of the best and consistent zergs in the world. Some people just benefit from other training set ups. Polt is another big example. He got really good since coming to America. Taeja and HerO as well to some extent, or at least the same in form.
I don't necessarily think that those are good examples of those scenarios.
Those players maintained a high level of play after leaving Korea, but it wasn't because they left Korea/had a different training environment. They play well because they work at it and have the capacity to play that way.
viOLet wasn't playing like crap when he was in Korea either. He was a new player who showed very rapid improvement. From starting SC2 to making Code S, he then left SC2 for personal reasons, then joined a foreign team when he returned.
You can't accredit his success to his leaving MVP or his leaving Korea. I find it insulting to do so.
There are some players that do well after leaving Korea and didn't do well while in Korea, but they haven't had the same success as the previously mentioned players.
Edit: I actually don't like him leaving Korea, but that comes from my being a fan of him in Korea.
This will benefit him in a lot of ways, but I wish he'd stick to his roots and play well from a KeSPA team. I disagree that he has a better chance in a foreign team than he would with any KeSPA team.
Imo his head is getting to him. He had tons if success, so ofc he can feel that way, but he's also played like total garbage even when he was at his peak. Now instead of looking unstoppable he looks very vulnerable.
That's due to mentality issues, and nothing else. Not teams, not nothin!
Anyways, best of luck to him and Acer. I know it's going to be an awesome experience for both parties ;D
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On September 01 2013 06:50 Lonyo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 04:56 WigglingSquid wrote:
I understand that his salary with Acer is lower than it was with STX, then? Or just lower than the offers from other KeSPA teams? Well, that's kind of surprising to me. He wanted a salary of $90k USD if he was going to sign for a Kespa team because he wouldn't get much of his prize money winnings. He joined Acer almost certainly for a lower salary on the basis he will get to keep more prize money, as foreign teams seem to more typically let players keep winnings. His assumption is that he will get enough prize money to make up the difference between Acer and Kespa salary, but obviously it requires him to perform well.
No SC2 player should make 90k USD salary right now. It would be stupid to do so, and thus I feel negative vibes towards this whole issue.
I also think that his prize earnings won't make up for much of anything.
Just my personal, individual opinion.
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As expected pretty dirty work done by Acer but happy that Innovation found a home that he's satisfied with.
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Question!!!
where does INnoVation live?
I am afraid if he trains oversea, he won't have connection to KR ladder much
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On September 01 2013 09:44 mostwanted wrote:
Question!!!
where does INnoVation live?
I am afraid if he trains oversea, he won't have connection to KR ladder much
Axiom house in Korea.
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On September 01 2013 09:47 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 09:44 mostwanted wrote:
Question!!!
where does INnoVation live?
I am afraid if he trains oversea, he won't have connection to KR ladder much Axiom house in Korea.
Wait a minute,
I thought MMA is staying in Acer house in Germany? Thus INnoVation would stay with MMA in Germany too?
Or they both went to KR
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MMA goes back and forth because he plays in GSTL and WCS EU. If INnoVation stays in WCS KR there is no reason for him to go to Germany unless he is preparing to play in a foreign tournament and is trying to get acclimated or something to the time zone.
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Hey this means Innovation can stream freely now, right? :D
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On September 01 2013 04:08 Zealos wrote:
Interesting that he feels like that strict Korean training regime held him back.
It's no surprise to me, I think when he has to do things when he doesn't feel up for it causes a lot of stress and failure. Removing that stress and the worry of expectations/requirements probably will help him when he does practice. Being relaxed when you're trying to spend almost all your free time on a video game is so important, especially when it's your livelihood like these players.
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On September 01 2013 10:00 Kommander wrote:
Hey this means Innovation can stream freely now, right? :D
I don't remember seeing any Acer streams in the past 4 months ish, but it's highly probable that they can. I don't think he would unless he wanted the extra money though.
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I thought I read somewhere that STX coach said he let INnoVation go with his own pace
sort of implying that INnoVation was free from schedule
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On September 01 2013 09:35 Shinta) wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 06:50 Lonyo wrote:On September 01 2013 04:56 WigglingSquid wrote:
I understand that his salary with Acer is lower than it was with STX, then? Or just lower than the offers from other KeSPA teams? Well, that's kind of surprising to me. He wanted a salary of $90k USD if he was going to sign for a Kespa team because he wouldn't get much of his prize money winnings. He joined Acer almost certainly for a lower salary on the basis he will get to keep more prize money, as foreign teams seem to more typically let players keep winnings. His assumption is that he will get enough prize money to make up the difference between Acer and Kespa salary, but obviously it requires him to perform well. No SC2 player should make 90k USD salary right now. It would be stupid to do so, and thus I feel negative vibes towards this whole issue. I also think that his prize earnings won't make up for much of anything. Just my personal, individual opinion.
What? Innovation already won $70K+ in prize money this year with season 3 and blizzcon still to go. Not to mentioned that he carried STX to a PL title. How is he not worth $90K assuming he has to share his prize money with the team?
If he can keep his form up and goes to more foreign events due to being of Acer, he would make a lot more. And I am sure Flash, Rain etc are probably a lot above the $90K range.
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I can see how you definitely get better at something when the practice is fun compared to practice feeling like something you are forced to do. Its like when you put pressure on yourself and cram for a week for something only to completely bomb because you were focused to hard on it.
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Sigh, why does everybody always need to add the it's not about money sentence? Obviously as a high achieving player and would make more in a team that allows him to keep his prize monies. Furthermore that's also a greater incentive to win more!
Honestly it's good for him if he really does better without strict training schedules, all the best to him with Acer.
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The answers took me by surprise. I thought Innovation would have joined Acer with them giving him a six figure salary a year. It's good to see him have results with a laxer training regime so he won't supposedly decline in skill when joining a foreign team.
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Will we see him at Dreamhack?
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I thought Kespa gave their players bonuses for doing well turns out they take their prize money instead.
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Well this is pretty much a complete turnaround from the speculation topic. Speculation "they must have given him a lot of money, but his practice regime will be bad, and his teammates will be bad."
Innovation interview: "The salary is lower, but the practice regime will be better for me, and it is a good team. That's why I chose the team."
On September 01 2013 04:52 Nerchio wrote:
So now I am waiting for people to tell me that playing all day long is good
Yes, Nerchio, if you ever want to win a Dreamhack or a Homestory cup, clearly you must practice at least 11 hours a day!
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Actually, this reminds me of an interview with [ROOT]Vibe where he talked about how he was practicing hours each day with little results, then got distracted by some other game (World of Tanks or something) didn't play SC2 at all, and when he came back is when he suddenly started achieving much more success (winning WCS America, coming second place in WCS NA, etc).
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On September 01 2013 09:52 mostwanted wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 09:47 Aeromi wrote:On September 01 2013 09:44 mostwanted wrote:
Question!!!
where does INnoVation live?
I am afraid if he trains oversea, he won't have connection to KR ladder much Axiom house in Korea. Wait a minute, I thought MMA is staying in Acer house in Germany? Thus INnoVation would stay with MMA in Germany too? Or they both went to KR
It wouldn't make any sense for Innovation to go to Germany since he plays on WCS KR.
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I don't think he will _not_ slump, sadly 
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I hope not... WE NEED A banjo !
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On September 01 2013 12:36 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 09:35 Shinta) wrote:On September 01 2013 06:50 Lonyo wrote:On September 01 2013 04:56 WigglingSquid wrote:
I understand that his salary with Acer is lower than it was with STX, then? Or just lower than the offers from other KeSPA teams? Well, that's kind of surprising to me. He wanted a salary of $90k USD if he was going to sign for a Kespa team because he wouldn't get much of his prize money winnings. He joined Acer almost certainly for a lower salary on the basis he will get to keep more prize money, as foreign teams seem to more typically let players keep winnings. His assumption is that he will get enough prize money to make up the difference between Acer and Kespa salary, but obviously it requires him to perform well. No SC2 player should make 90k USD salary right now. It would be stupid to do so, and thus I feel negative vibes towards this whole issue. I also think that his prize earnings won't make up for much of anything. Just my personal, individual opinion. What? Innovation already won $70K+ in prize money this year with season 3 and blizzcon still to go. Not to mentioned that he carried STX to a PL title. How is he not worth $90K assuming he has to share his prize money with the team? If he can keep his form up and goes to more foreign events due to being of Acer, he would make a lot more. And I am sure Flash, Rain etc are probably a lot above the $90K range.
Because SC2 is not the healthiest eSport right now, and players maintaining such strong status has not happened in SC2 to this day.
Players have their success, then either fall off or remain good, but not champions.
Money distribution is not very good in sc2 tournents either.
1st place gets huge portions whereas everyone else gets much less than they should.
You assume that INnoVation will continue being the champion of the world, when I think it's 100% not going to happen.
His prize money won't be even close to what it was (opinion)
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o god T_T the beginning of god turning human
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He seemed pretty human when he jumped the gun to make a deal in the first place, but then, Germans can be pretty convincing.
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EPT
